decal bonder/air brush tips question

:icon16: first question-
i have a can of decal bonder product id testors #9200 now can it be used to help adhesion of kit decals?

2nd question-
i have an aztek a370 air brush and im wondering whats the best way to clean tips as in meaning can i use hot water and mild dish detergant???
hhhhhhhheeeelllpppppp!!!!

ad Q2: if those are the same removable plastic tips that are on my Aztek 470 then just separate them into 3 parts (body, nozzle and needle/spring) and just soak them to your heart's content in cellulose thinners. Hot water and detergent isn't going to be very effective at all (but it'll be gentle to your hands ;) )

ad Q2: if those are the same removable plastic tips that are on my Aztek 470 then just separate them into 3 parts (body, nozzle and needle/spring) and just soak them to your heart's content in cellulose thinners. Hot water and detergent isn't going to be very effective at all (but it'll be gentle to your hands ;) )

i dont think mine breaks down into three different parts!!!

i dont think mine breaks down into three different parts!!!
If they look like this (http://www.testors.com/product/137226/9305C/_/Gray_Nozzle_.40mm) then they do.

But maybe your AB uses different tips?

this is mine-
http://www.testors.com/product/137226/9340C/_/Black_.40mm

this is mine-
http://www.testors.com/product/137226/9340C/_/Black_.40mm
That's exactly the same type - just a different needle size.
You can separate it as I described above or just soak it in thinners.

ok so i can seperate them!
do you have a pic of one seperated so i know where to seperate them at with out tearring one up!
good lord nows i cant afford to replace one at 12/13 dollars a piece!

do you have a pic of one seperated so i know where to seperate them at with out tearring one up!
No I don't - sorry.
But the tips are only made up of three pieces so it's not exactly rocket science ;)
First of all pull apart the main external body and the large plastic part that is inserted inside it. Then with a pair of tweezers pull out the needle part (the bit that springs up and down when you push it) by pulling on the plastic base.

If you are at all worried then don't pull it apart, just soak them in the appropriate thinners for the paint you used. However, from experience I know that the spring inside tends to get a bit clogged up and is hard to get fully clean without separating the nozzle.

NB the most important thing with these Aztek plastic air brushes is to remember to resist the urge to mix the paint in the cup by back-flushing. This will push paint back inside the sealed body and after a while things will get creaky, jammed and cellulose thinner may even eat the air hoses inside the body. This is not covered by the life time guarantee AFAIK. Aztek make clear statement about not back flushing these brushes.

The decal bonder is meant to be applied to decals while they're still on the original decal paper. If you plan to use old, dried-out decals that might fall apart when you apply them, spray them with this stuff first.

Some people also use it to seal home-made decals to keep water-soluble inkjet ink from running. I haven't had much success with it; even after many coats, the ink starts dissolving when the decal is soaked in water. Krylon Crystal Clear seals a lot better IMO.

There might be other uses for Testors "decal bonder," but I don't know what they are.

Ddms

The decal bonder is meant to be applied to decals while they're still on the original decal paper. If you plan to use old, dried-out decals that might fall apart when you apply them, spray them with this stuff first.
Ddms

what im trying to say here is can it be used like "decal set"!:confused:

No.

No.

DARN!!!:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

what im trying to say here is can it be used like "decal set"!:confused:

To quote the sign on the boss's parking space: "Don't even think about it!"

Ddms

To quote the sign on the boss's parking space: "Don't even think about it!"

Ddms

well both questions have been answered so thanx guys!!!:biggrin: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon14.gif

hey klutz,

got any advice on using those aztek airbrushes? i went out and got the top of the line one and i hate it, i could never get it to work propery.:banghead: i tried all the different tips, and tried different degrees of thinning my paint, and i could get it to shoot worth a damn. did you have any issues when you first started out? got any tips? or maybe i have a defect...i have two badger ab's that work like a dream. teach me oh great one:naughty:

got any advice on using those aztek airbrushes? ... teach me oh great one:naughty:
Well since you ask so nicely.....:evillol: :rofl:

The best advice I can give is....don't buy one. But it's too late for that :D

I think that these Aztek airbrushes are basically over-priced pieces of crap and a classic example of clever marketing hype. On paper they sound like a brilliant idea! Easy cleaning, changable tips, life-time guarantee...but reality is somewhat different.

After 6 months of use during which I felt that I was most of the time fighting to get it to work, I put it back in its wooden box, bought my first Iwata and discovered that airbrushing can be a painless experience after all.

I found that the key thing with the Aztek was air pressure. IIRC the Aztek needed a higher pressure than the Iwata for paints with identical thinning ratios.

I found that the tips tend to clog up inside and needed to be broken down for a thorough cleaning. Simple soaking was not enough. IIRC I used the Tan tip for just about everything.

Using the red tip key to clean out the inside of the body was also quite important.

Not being able to back flush was a major pain in the a$$. Of course I did it anyway and the lever mechanism in mine is the worse for it.

Having said all that and to be fair to Aztek, I did manage to get good paint jobs with it - it just wasn't much fun doing it and I had a constant feeling that I had been ripped off.

Not much help I'm afraid :uhoh:

The best advice I can give is....don't buy one.

I was afraid you were going to say that.:crying: