Books on the Mclaren - Which ones to get and why

How many copies of driving ambition were produced?

Retail copies - not a clue. Virgin Books might be able to tell you? I think they did three separate print runs of the book.

For the Limited copies, there were 1,000 with the first 100 being reserved as 'Owner's Editions' offered first to the customers who had each specific chassis number. The leather on the Owner's versions was Connolly - the same as used in the cars. The rest of them, or some portion of the rest of them were covered in Nubuck. I am not sure if they made an additional 59 copies when they created the Le Mans Editions or if they just re-purposed Limited copies? Greg may know that answer.

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Retail copies - not a clue. Virgin Books might be able to tell you? I think they did three separate print runs of the book.

For the Limited copies, there were 1,000 with the first 100 being reserved as 'Owner's Editions' offered first to the customers who had each specific chassis number. The leather on the Owner's versions was Connolly - the same as used in the cars. The rest of them, or some portion of the rest of them were covered in Nubuck. I am not sure if they made an additional 59 copies when they created the Le Mans Editions or if they just re-purposed Limited copies? Greg may know that answer.

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The run of 1000 included the run of 59 Le Mans editions; mine has 2 'chassis numbers' - the # out of 1000 and then 35/59

I swear I may have had my hands on most of the production run of the normal DA though :iceslolan

A little update from me ;)

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Very nice Greg!

Had one of those in my hands over the weekend - it was the WEST cover. :(

They also had an F1 brochure and a retail copy of "Driving Ambition" next to it.

Just wait until you see the asking prices that were on all three of them. :uhoh: :screwy:

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Fantastic Greg :bigthumb:

You just need a couple more copies of the Harrods and Gulf covers now to balance it out :iceslolan

"The Hurst book store will be opening very soon" :rofl::rofl::rofl:

You have some collection there my friend, but I have seen alot more brand new Gulf copies in one stack :smile:.

Erik, how much was that West copy on sale for?

Erik, how much was that West copy on sale for?

I forget everything but the price of the brochure, but because I knew I would forget I took pictures of the price tags. :naughty: Will have them later to share here.

Feel like I am swimming in 'Things to do' at the moment. Still have many more people to email after Pebble too, and a reply coming your way as well. :)

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I forget everything but the price of the brochure, but because I knew I would forget I took pictures of the price tags. :naughty: Will have them later to share here.

Feel like I am swimming in 'Things to do' at the moment. Still have many more people to email after Pebble too, and a reply coming your way as well. :)

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In your own good time Erik, with all that "meet and greet" going on at Pebble, sounds like your going to be real busy for quite sometime :smokin:

In my hot little hands... :naughty:

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Then I saw the prices... :yikes:

$545.00 for Cotton's "GTR"

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$380.00 for a retail copy of "Driving Ambition"

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And there's a soft-cover F1 road car brochure there in the middle. Wonder how much they want for that? :dunno:

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UNBELIEVABLE!!! :runaround:

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Just like at Goodwood this year - GTR for £350.00, normal DA for £200+, Owners Manual £1250, Lauch Brochure [hardback] £1500 :eek:

holy crap :|

There's one page in DA that shows some of the other proposed designs. Most are quite similar as Stevens was working with the same hard points underneath.

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A few are interesting, but I am pretty confident they made the right decisions.

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Very interesting page, thanks for sharing :)

Just like at Goodwood this year - GTR for £350.00, normal DA for £200+, Owners Manual £1250, Lauch Brochure [hardback] £1500 :eek:

Where was it?
In Italy maybe?

In my hot little hands... :naughty:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/6099708690_a2b6713dc0_z.jpg

Then I saw the prices... :yikes:

$545.00 for Cotton's "GTR"

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$380.00 for a retail copy of "Driving Ambition"

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And there's a soft-cover F1 road car brochure there in the middle. Wonder how much they want for that? :dunno:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/6099161521_d0851aafe5_z.jpg

UNBELIEVABLE!!! :runaround:

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I was at the Lime Rock Historics today and I think I visited this very vendor, I couldn't believe the prices when I found these books. They also had GT Endurance 1995 for something like $295! There was a lot of nice books, but they were all very overpriced, I do wonder whether they actually sell any.

Was anyone else tracking this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260846843115?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649


Mclaren GT book sold for......£88 :eek:

I haven't had much time to look at Ebay lately, plus all of my money is currently allocated to a major purchase in my near future so I shouldn't be looking anyway. ;)

That price is a shock - and a far cry from the high bid of ~$1,500 paid by the gentleman who owned my copy before me, and also far below the $550 I eventually paid him. I wouldn't say the market is falling out on F1 memorabilia based on one auction but it is a surpise to see such a rare item go for such a bargain. Lucky bidder! :cool:

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Hey guys, how's it going? I'm looking for a beat-up shabby copy of DA that would be worn out enough that I could get it for cheap. No inscriptions however. I'd like to have one I could read without having to fuss over it. I'm looking for a first edition from 1999. Does anyone have one like this they would like to unload?

I'm keeping my worn out, dog-eared, pages-bent, scruffy, scuffed, well read copy for myself :)

Any others you are welcome to, but I'm guessing they won't be at the price you are after

Yeah - I have a copy like that too but am not ready to part with it. I also have one that is in perfect condition, but the binding has split from the cover. The plan is to use it for some scans, but I still haven't bought a scanner yet. :rolleyes: Once I am done with that it will be up for grabs, but the plan is to slice some pages out of it.

If I see any cheap copies floating around I'll keep you in mind Mike. :)

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I'm willing to buy a perfect copy if the price is right unlike the crazy prices people ask for them. As for a very beat-up copy I could feel comfortable reading; I'll pay a price relative to the books condition. So if you want to talk about one of your better copies send me a PM. Thanks!

I'm willing to buy a perfect copy if the price is right unlike the crazy prices people ask for them. As for a very beat-up copy I could feel comfortable reading; I'll pay a price relative to the books condition. So if you want to talk about one of your better copies send me a PM. Thanks!


Not everybody asks "crazy prices" read through this old thread :wink: it will make you laugh and cry :iceslolan

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=606491&highlight=bookshop

Thats the cheapest I have paid for a copy, not counting the free copy I was given.

Anyone want to pay over the odds for a Limited Edition Driving Ambition? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Driving-Ambition-Official-Story-McLaren-F1-252-1000-ULTRA-RARE-/260857510046?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item3cbc51b89e)

:uhoh:

[I have it on watch just in case it sells....:naughty:]

That's not quite the bargain Mike was hoping for. :uhoh:

Would be amazing if it actually sells. To a crazy person it might be worth half that amount.

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Hello,

a good idea to find a DA worn to use it. If you find it :) please let me know too.

At a point, I consider to buy Le Mans Edition which stayed at factory but I kept DA signed by Ron Dennis and Lewis Hamilton :)

Edit : It's out of stock when cheap :(

nice new picture under your posts Erik!

nice new picture under your posts Erik!

Thanks - not my photo obviously. It comes from this set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_hall99/sets/72157627016859379/with/5914958651/) by Stephen Hall. Been meaning to make a sig image out of it for a while.

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Anyone want to pay over the odds for a Limited Edition Driving Ambition? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Driving-Ambition-Official-Story-McLaren-F1-252-1000-ULTRA-RARE-/260857510046?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item3cbc51b89e)

:uhoh:

[I have it on watch just in case it sells....:naughty:]

First one ended early. Now it has been relisted at a much more reasonable price. Hope someone here can get it. :smile:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/260861702212

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Just got the Le Mans Yearbook 1995, just can't wait to get read it!!!!:lol2: :sunglasse

Thanks Erik

Sure thing - it isn't a bargain at that price, especially with the additional shipping charges, but you never know when you will get a chance at another one.

Best of luck if you go for it Mike! :thumbsup:

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That's OK I never had an interest in bidding on it as I already have the LeMans Edition of DA. I was looking for a bargain by finding a beat-up standard edition of DA.

Oh cool - I had no idea you already owned the Le Mans Edtn. Nice!

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This (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Driving-Ambition-Official-Inside-Story-McLaren-F1-Ron-Dennis-/270827532920?pt=Non_Fiction&hash=item3f0e943278) may be of interest to you LMMike :)

That's OK I never had an interest in bidding on it as I already have the LeMans Edition of DA. I was looking for a bargain by finding a beat-up standard edition of DA.

Which # did you get? :)

Just got the Le Mans Yearbook 1995, just can't wait to get read it!!!!:lol2: :sunglasse

Hi Sami

What did you think of it? :)

Hi Sami

What did you think of it? :)

It was quite much that what I expected. Didn't knew there is full line up of cars, teams and drivers, which were good to have. Detail information is always needed. Good images and good story of the race.
Quite must book, if someone is interested of GTR history. :smokin:

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:smokin:

Tak43 :wave: pointed me in the direction of this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1902351444) today - It's en route so I can see what Tak called me about this afternoon

More info here (https://www.mclarenshop.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10551_-1_70662_VMM1179) -


"McLaren - The Wins Book

McLaren The Wins Book (2011) - It is not until you stop and count up McLaren’s victories, since its inception in 1964, that you truly appreciate the breadth and depth of this amazing marque’s footprint in motorsport.


No other racing team can lay this claim to success across such a vast spectrum: McLaren has been victorious in Formula 1, Formula 2, Formula 3, Formula A/5000, Indycars, Can-Am and Interserie sportscars and at Le Mans.

This landmark 320-page, large-format, all-colour 12 x 12 inch hardback publication from award' winning Coterie Press does what no other book has ever sought to achieve, painstakingly recording all of McLaren’s historic wins from 1964 until 2010"

Very interesting. I think other books will come out in the future.

Phil

Coterie Press have also published an updated version of "McLaren: The Cars" with an additional 16 pages. It now covers 1964-2012. It seems there is a boxed set that will be offered of 'The Cars' and 'The Wins' together, but I can not seem to find a place that will sell it to me. :(

http://www.amazon.com/McLaren-Cars-Wins-Box-Set/dp/1902351460

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Hello,

I am not convinced it will be ok, I just ordered Driving Ambition on Amazon uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Driving-Ambition-Official-Inside-McLaren/dp/1852278412/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319186523&sr=8-1

enjoy ;)

Well, it arrived today, and its a good addition to a comprehensive Mclaren F1 Library but is a bit underwhelming, given we have been spoilt by DA, Michael Cottons GTR and Mclaren - The cars

There are some decent pictures and some small write ups, but its more of a good thing to have rather than "I need to get it"

Hello,

Does anyone have the GTR book by Cotton with Gulf and Harrods covers? If so, please send a PM. Thanks.

PM sent :)

Hello,

Does anyone have the GTR book by Cotton with Gulf and Harrods covers? If so, please send a PM. Thanks.

+1
Cover not important (yet).

Drop me a PM

I recently bought this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1419702203) book for the pictures of the engine bay of #025, and I just had this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0760341168#reader_0760341168) arrive on my doorstep; a few nice shots of #046 set in a studio, with some nice write ups from Frank Stephenson with the forewward by Gordon Murray :)

It's about time I got less of a hoarder and released one of my 7 (!!) Michael Cotton GTR books (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270892214125?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649).

PM me if you are interested, and I am after at least the asking price on eBay [but you may catch me on a good day and It may go for less, make me an offer... :)]

For the book-crazed among us, I don't recall seeing a soft cover version of the 1996 GT Endurance book before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290657504838&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

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Also...

For US-based McLaren enthusiasts, Coterie Press have added the boxed set of "McLaren: The Cars" and "McLaren: The Wins". Find them here (http://www.coteriepress.com/site/COTE/Templates/Product.aspx?pageid=11188&cc=GB&forumboardid=167&forumtopicid=170) if you are interested. The copy of "The Cars" is the updated version that includes cars through 2012.

For some reason it shows 'Sold Out' in other markets, but I think that has more to do with their concerns for delivering these via mail-order. I had to beg a little and volunteer to be the guinea pig when I first contacted them about it. With plenty of packing materials, mine arrived in perfect shape. :)

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For the book-crazed among us, I don't recall seeing a soft cover version of the 1996 GT Endurance book before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290657504838&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

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I bought one of those inadvertently , not knowing they did a soft back version. When it arrived I was disappointed but then quite excited as I hadn't seen one before. It has now gone from my collection, but for more than I paid for it :naughty: but for less than what it's currently being advertised for

Gee - how did you know that post was directed at you? :lol2:

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I bought one of those inadvertently , not knowing they did a soft back version. When it arrived I was disappointed but then quite excited as I hadn't seen one before. It has now gone from my collection, but for more than I paid for it :naughty: but for less than what it's currently being advertised for

I think the pricing of that one on Ebay is a little optimistic, I think the seller also has GT 1997 available for a similarly high price.

Hey, nothing wrong with rising prices... for those of us who have them already, that is. ;)

I do agree with you though - these are different times and prices are down on many non-essential things.

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Hey, nothing wrong with rising prices... for those of us who have them already, that is. ;)



True enough :lol:

Just paid for a copy of this:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BMW-PROFILE-BOOK-TOURING-CAR-RACING-AND-SPORTS-CARS-E30-M3-328-M1-ENGLISH-TEXT-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNTE4/$(KGrHqRHJDQE8f,TBzQCBPKcCeoWZ!~~60_12.JPG

It is Book #8 in a series on BMW's history and this one has a chapter on "SPORTS CAR VICTORIES AT LE MANS McLAREN; F1 - V12LMR"

I'll have something to say about it when it arrives but even if the McLaren content is a rehash of the typical stuff I expect I'll enjoy the rest of the book as well.

For those in the UK there's a copy on Ebay here (www.ebay.com/itm/320841135698).

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When you got it; it would be nice to know what images there is of GTR's or F1's. And what kind of story it has.:smokin:

I'll be interested to know what's in the book about the F1 too, I've been keeping an eye on it for a while but so far resisted buying it as I'm unsure of its specific content.

I'm selling off my copy.....

ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photobook-McLaren-F1-059-1995-Le-Mans-24h-winner-Raven59-/120859502709)

I have finally snagged an Owners Manual :runaround:

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