F2007 - alternative colour instead of zero paints
AceCobra1
12-26-2008, 07:30 PM
Just wondering if you guys would know what tamiya colour I could get which would accurately match the colour for the car?
73superduty
12-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Are you against airbrushing or just really want a spray can? Jameston @ Scalefinishes.com can custom mix the color you need for the car. Just need to airbrush it on. Great paint and great prices.
Check him out:
http://scalefinishes.com/
Chris
Check him out:
http://scalefinishes.com/
Chris
AceCobra1
12-26-2008, 09:58 PM
Thanks for the reply... I actually have an airbrush - I am just planning to buy and start the kit 2moroz so I want to get the body done asap ;)
Captain Mark
12-26-2008, 11:40 PM
I've heard of people using clear red over gold, or some such similar combination. Could be worth a try.
Didymus
12-27-2008, 01:14 AM
Kimi's and Felipe's F1 Ferraris had an amazing "wet look" and depth of finish. I think it was a very fine grain pearl/metallic with a super glossy urethane clear coat. (It looked like there were about five coats of clear, but that would add too much weight. Had to be some special high-tech clear. Probably cost $50,000 each to paint the nose cones.)
I personally think enamels are a pain, and acrylics need to be applied too thickly to get the crisp look you need on a F1 car. And neither one will give you a gloss to match those Ferraris.
Assuming you want to use a lacquer, I don't think Tamiya makes any metallics in their TS synthetic lacquer series. So Model Master (Testors) Lacquer Series might be the only metallic hobby lacquer available, and they do have some nice reds.
While an MM metallic might work for the color coat, a clear synthetic lacquer like TS13 just isn't glossy enough to replicate the Ferrari finish, even if you polish the heck out of it and wax it too.
I think your best bet is automotive urethane available from automotive paint suppliers, the guys who sell paint to body shops. One-part touch-up paint like Dupont Chromabase comes in a wide variety of colors, including zillions of metallic reds. I suggest taking some photos of the Ferraris to an automotive paint supplier and sitting down with their Dupont color book.
Automotive two-part urethane clear would give you something resembling the gloss and depth of the Ferrari - much deeper and glossier than Tamiya or Model Master clears. (I don't use it because it's TOO glossy for the older cars that I like.)
If your shops are like those here in the U.S., they won't sell urethane clear packs in quantities less than 20 oz. But you can get small amounts from Model Factory Hiro. He goes out of his way to serve the modeling community; why not buy from him if he has what you need at a competitive price?
Ddms
I personally think enamels are a pain, and acrylics need to be applied too thickly to get the crisp look you need on a F1 car. And neither one will give you a gloss to match those Ferraris.
Assuming you want to use a lacquer, I don't think Tamiya makes any metallics in their TS synthetic lacquer series. So Model Master (Testors) Lacquer Series might be the only metallic hobby lacquer available, and they do have some nice reds.
While an MM metallic might work for the color coat, a clear synthetic lacquer like TS13 just isn't glossy enough to replicate the Ferrari finish, even if you polish the heck out of it and wax it too.
I think your best bet is automotive urethane available from automotive paint suppliers, the guys who sell paint to body shops. One-part touch-up paint like Dupont Chromabase comes in a wide variety of colors, including zillions of metallic reds. I suggest taking some photos of the Ferraris to an automotive paint supplier and sitting down with their Dupont color book.
Automotive two-part urethane clear would give you something resembling the gloss and depth of the Ferrari - much deeper and glossier than Tamiya or Model Master clears. (I don't use it because it's TOO glossy for the older cars that I like.)
If your shops are like those here in the U.S., they won't sell urethane clear packs in quantities less than 20 oz. But you can get small amounts from Model Factory Hiro. He goes out of his way to serve the modeling community; why not buy from him if he has what you need at a competitive price?
Ddms
Decs0105
12-27-2008, 04:10 AM
But you can get small amounts from Model Factory Hiro. He goes out of his way to serve the modeling community; why not buy from him if he has what you need at a competitive price?
Ddms
MFH supplies the kits with a special mixed paint from Finisher's, which is according to them matched to a real part... so it should be a good match :tongue:. The paint is one "paint" and not a combo from silver and red like the zero paints. But I don't know if the paint is free for sale or only MFH "exclusive"...
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/88/52588/3065373230623765.jpg
I assume you are talking about the metallic red used from Monaco on, right?
Sorry, not a Tamiya paint match but might be worth a try :smooch:
Ddms
MFH supplies the kits with a special mixed paint from Finisher's, which is according to them matched to a real part... so it should be a good match :tongue:. The paint is one "paint" and not a combo from silver and red like the zero paints. But I don't know if the paint is free for sale or only MFH "exclusive"...
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/88/52588/3065373230623765.jpg
I assume you are talking about the metallic red used from Monaco on, right?
Sorry, not a Tamiya paint match but might be worth a try :smooch:
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