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gang$tarr
10-20-2001, 05:37 PM
I really like mafia stuff, my favorite show is The Sopranos... I like the Godfather series, Scarface, goodfellas, thos are some of my favorite movies........ is anybody into La Cosa Nostra? :) who else likes that stuff?

Anyway, I haven't heard much from the Italian mafia in recent years, what happened? I hear that the chinese and russian mafia are big now, but are they bigger than cosa nostra (italian mafia)???
I know that the last big boss was John Gotti in New York, what's goin down now?!?!?
how would you even get into the mafia if you weren't part of the families?

Heep
10-20-2001, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
how would you even get into the mafia if you weren't part of the families?

Kill enough people on the godfather's behalf.

Jay!
10-20-2001, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
how would you even get into the mafia if you weren't part of the families? You do "favors." :uhoh: ;)

gang$tarr
10-20-2001, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Heep


Kill enough people on the godfather's behalf.

and how would you meet the godfather, or any people in the mob?

is anybody gunna answer the other questions? are the other 2 bigger than the italian now? What has happened to the italian mafia?

Porsche
10-20-2001, 08:24 PM
There still there, I just got the Godfather collection on DVD :D

bellaracing
10-20-2001, 08:35 PM
The Italian mafia is still around
TO GET IN
1. be family
if not
2. work for one of the "family"
3. marry in
4. own something they want to be partners in ie. a business of some sort
5. it is all about trust, you have to make them trust you some how

Porsche
10-20-2001, 08:39 PM
Would you be an Active mobster?

gang$tarr
10-20-2001, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by bellaracing
The Italian mafia is still around
TO GET IN
1. be family
if not
2. work for one of the "family"
3. marry in
4. own something they want to be partners in ie. a business of some sort
5. it is all about trust, you have to make them trust you some how

i know it's all about trust, there is a sacred code that no mobster is supposed to break called the omerta... it means you can never reveal any information about your organization, can't kill somebody in front of their family, etc. That's another reason the mob isn't doing as well as it used to i think, cause people talk too much now, like that Sammy Gravano guy that told the police everything he knew just so he could save his ass, and he's the reason all of the gambino family was arrested.
I know they're still around, i was just wondering if they're still as big, cause you don't hear anything about them on the news anymore. Cause in the early 90s when John Gotti was arrested, the top people from the main gambino family were arrested to, and the whole organization fell apart.... I think they've re-built it now, they're probably tryin to keep low, and not to get too much attention.
I think your father needs to be italian to be in the mafia (good thing i'm half italian, now i got more possibilties :D )

bella, i know there's like a section of the italian mafia in Hamilton... 2 guys were killed and it was connected to some italian mob. I don't know too much about it though. You aren't related to any mobsters are you? heh :D

Heep
10-20-2001, 10:11 PM
Is it OK if my uncle is Italian? I'm blond haired...I don't think I've ever seen a blond haired mobster....

gang$tarr
10-20-2001, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Heep
Is it OK if my uncle is Italian? I'm blond haired...I don't think I've ever seen a blond haired mobster....

lol :D i haven't seen one either, haha

Porsche
10-21-2001, 12:11 AM
LOL, I know italians, but I doubt we'd here mich about the MAfia, especially if they are trying to rebuild. I think the mafia is cool. :cool:

gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Porsche
but I doubt we'd here mich about the MAfia, especially if they are trying to rebuild. I think the mafia is cool. :cool:

Yeah, I hope the Italians come back with a big BANG, and kick all the other mobs out of the U.S.

chinese and russian, get the hell out.....

Steel
10-21-2001, 01:30 PM
Naw, the Russian mafia is the coolest, hands down. Dealing in AK's and a cooler language. its a really MAFIA language. Italian is something you use when you bang a girl. Russian is what you use when you talk aobut killing someone.

gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Steel
Naw, the Russian mafia is the coolest, hands down. Dealing in AK's and a cooler language. its a really MAFIA language. Italian is something you use when you bang a girl. Russian is what you use when you talk aobut killing someone.

no way!! The Italian mafia has controlled all of the U.S. for like 70 years
The russian boys are just getting here, they don't know anything.... the italians started mafia, russians are just tryin to pick up from them.

where was the russian mafia when Al Capone was takin over? Have you heard of Murder Inc.?? They were the most vicious mob, they were italian, they killed over 500 people :eek:

If you think the italian mafia is soft, you got it wrong man :)
I've read tons of things on how they killed informants, this one guy was talkin with the FBI and some mob guys took him to a meat house, hung him by his anus on a hook, then beat him with a bat for 2 days before he died... that's nasty and that's just one of many killings that bad

gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 02:12 PM
for whoever chose "other" in the poll... which mob did you choose? i don't know of any other big ones

Lizard King
10-21-2001, 02:40 PM
No mafia is as cool as the Italian American mafia. (If you can call killers cool.)

Theres always a fat one in a track suit.

gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Lizard King
No mafia is as cool as the Italian American mafia. (If you can call killers cool.)

Theres always a fat one in a track suit.

lol!! :D exactly

they aren't all neccesarily killers though... alotta them are just like crooked businessmen

Seraph
10-21-2001, 06:31 PM
Are you talking about America only or worldwide?? Then you should probly include the Japanese Yakudza. They are the first thing that comes into mind when I hear the word "Mafia", probably because they fit the common perception of it better than anyone else. Russian mafia is a totally different concept, its not big fat guys driving around in tinted LandCruisers who sell weapons and drugs, those are just pretending.
Italian mafia - I didnt even know that existed until a few years back. Chinese -wtf is that??:confused: I never been to China but....

gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Seraph

Italian mafia - I didnt even know that existed until a few years back.

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

are you serious? they're the most popular mafia in the world... even the word mafia is italian, the word was made when the original mafia in sicily was started... it's actually M.A.F.I.A. it stands for something they're all italian words so i don't remember what they mean.

Plus all the most popular mafia movies like the Godfather, Goodfellas, etc. are all italian mafia. There wasn't any chinese/japanese, russian, or any other mafias before the italian

and i'm talkin mainly about in the United States... cause that's where they all went. Early on in the century the mafia was getting alot of trouble from mussolinni in italy, during the the first world war, they stopped paying as much attention to the mob, so most of the mafia moved to the United States, since it was the land of the free, to make money.

but the mafia originally based in sicily wasn't really a criminal organization, they were made to protect the italians there from the government... they ended up having almost all the control, they controlled the police, that's when they decided to start making money off of it.. then mussolini was tryin to get rid of them, so they went to U.S.

Seraph
10-21-2001, 10:41 PM
Alright, this is enough of a history lesson for today :D

johnny
10-21-2001, 10:46 PM
It's all about the Italian and the Chinese mafias... Oddly enough, I'm taking a course titled Organized Crime... Fuggin' tight as hell... I'm havin' fun in class while I'm learning... go fig

gang$tarr
10-21-2001, 11:29 PM
john gotti jr. (gotti's son) got arrested a while back.... so who is the boss of the gambino family now?! :confused: They're the most powerful, some people said that john gotti is still callin all the shots from in prison (he has a liftime sentance with no chance of parol, because that muthafucker Sammy "the bull" gravano, went to the FBI and told them everything so he could save himself.... what a rat, it's people like him that are ruining the mafia. That's braking the code, that you're not supposed to attract or say a word to the police. Gotti wouldn't even be in prison if it wasn't for him, gravano admitted killing 19 people and he only did 5 years jail time, then went into witness protection. he then started an ecstasy ring, and started up all his crime again. now he's in prison again, he might be transferred to new york cause that's where the ecstasy was from.... that's also where all the people he ratted out are, soo RIP tough guy :)

johnny
10-22-2001, 07:51 PM
You can't break omerta, that's just wrong...

gang$tarr
10-22-2001, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by johnny
You can't break omerta, that's just wrong...

yeah man, that just fucks the whole system.... they did so good in the 70s cause nobody talked, no matter what. They also tried to keep low (that's what i think they're doin now) Gotti didn't try to keep low though, he wore his $4000 suits and smiled for the cameras.... he was cool though, just one mistake having sammy gravano his under-boss and not bein cautious enough
that sammy gravano is such a rat

Heep
10-22-2001, 08:47 PM
I love guys that every knows are big time criminals, but no one can prove anything so they walk around and smile for the camera....

gang$tarr
10-22-2001, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Heep
I love guys that every knows are big time criminals, but no one can prove anything so they walk around and smile for the camera....

yeah i love'em too :D they're my heros

John Gotti was called the Teflon Don, cause the police couldn't get him on any charges, i think he did like 3-4 trials in 2 years and the charges were dropped on all of them. Then the governent took away his life long lawyers, and got sammy gravano to testify against him... that put him away for life. The governemnt didn't play fair though, i think they were just tired of being humiliated by gotti. they got him on a RICO charge, that means something about how they don't have to follow the constitution for certain organized crime type things. They got him mainly for organizing stuff

medici78
10-23-2001, 01:44 AM
Hmm, most of your points are correct, but nowadays, at least in the US, barring terrorists like Bin Laden and his associates, the main wanted people are mostly the Mexican drug kingpins. Go to the FBI website pbs.org/frontline to see all the stuff on it. Namely the Arellano-Felix brothers from Tijuana.

super 96 accord
10-23-2001, 02:16 PM
Hmmm, let's see. I'm Sicilian, have my own side business, and have a nice ass car. Does that mean I'm in the family? Don't know and you can't make me say a thing! One of my cousins in Sicily is a big time prosecutor of the mafia and if you want to go visit him you need to call way in advance. His house is like a fortress. There's tanks chillin at the front of his driveway with armed guards constantly walking around. It's fun when you drive around the streets and you see a couple cops with some big guns standing in front of an apartment complex because you know someone important is in there. Then a couple blocks down you got some more cops standing on the corner drinking their espresso not caring what the hell you're doing. Then there's the restaurant on the beach that just got blown up. Why? Don't ask me!! Let's just say it was rumored they didn't want to pay anymore. So this stuff still goes on, it's just not as high profile anymore.

And the word Mafia is still unclear where it originated from. Maybe whoever was taking that class can correct me on this one. One of the theories though that it might have come from was the words "ma figlia" (spelling???), which means "my daughter". So from hearing those words it kinda sounds out mafia. That was one theory, there are several others. Once cool place to get cheap books on the history of the Italian mafia is usually at Tower and Waldenbooks when they have their sale books, you can sometimes get some nice history books for cheap.

Wow, okay, I think I've said enough for now!





IF YOU DON'T MESS WITH THEM, THEY WON'T MESS WITH YOU!

gang$tarr
10-23-2001, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by medici78
Hmm, most of your points are correct, but nowadays, at least in the US, barring terrorists like Bin Laden and his associates, the main wanted people are mostly the Mexican drug kingpins. Go to the FBI website pbs.org/frontline to see all the stuff on it. Namely the Arellano-Felix brothers from Tijuana.

what does that have to do with the stuff i said? :confused:
you mean they're not focusing as much attention on the mafia as they did in the 80s right? that's true

accord: the word mafia originated in sicily... it stands for something, i just don't remember.
I'm 1/2 italian, so if all else fails i'm callin up some relatives and I'll be a capo... soon to be don, hehe
don't tell anybody i'm only half :D from now on, i'm 100% italiano :) hehe

btw, john gotti's my uncle :D :D j/k

super 96 accord
10-23-2001, 06:04 PM
No you're not. I just called him. BTW, get out of your house NOW!

gang$tarr
10-23-2001, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by super 96 accord
No you're not. I just called him. BTW, get out of your house NOW!

must have been real easy callin him in maximum security prison :D
i didn't think he was allowed phone calls?

gang$tarr
10-25-2001, 07:00 PM
what? no come back?! :D

Lizard King
10-26-2001, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Seraph
Are you talking about America only or worldwide?? Then you should probly include the Japanese Yakudza. They are the first thing that comes into mind when I hear the word "Mafia", probably because they fit the common perception of it better than anyone else. Russian mafia is a totally different concept, its not big fat guys driving around in tinted LandCruisers who sell weapons and drugs, those are just pretending.
Italian mafia - I didnt even know that existed until a few years back. Chinese -wtf is that??:confused: I never been to China but....

Been living in a box in a Yakuza members basement or something?

The Italian Mafia is THE mafia. Say mafia and most people think Godfather or 1930s Chicago and tommy guns.

I'll spare you the history lesson, though.

Lizard King
10-26-2001, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
john gotti jr. (gotti's son) got arrested a while back.... so who is the boss of the gambino family now?! :confused:

Well...

I've already said too much..

gang$tarr
10-26-2001, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Lizard King


I'll spare you the history lesson, though.

I've already done a few, lol :D :D

Exactly... they're THE mafia
Al Capone, Godfather, etc.


Originally posted by Lizard King


Well...

I've already said too much..

how could you have??!? you live in the U.K.! :) what kind of connections with the mafia families could you have that far away :D

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