German history recap

Since Germany has decided to stay on the sidelines along with France (who would have ever seen this coming?) maybe it's time we also review some highlights from Germany's history...
1871 - Bismark founds modern Germany.
1890 - Bismark sacked, warmonger Wilhelm II takes direct control.
1914 - Germany starts World War I
1914-1918 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.
1917 - Germany forces peace loving Americans to enter war.
1918 - Germany loses World War I.
1920's - Germans try democracy.
1933 - Germans reject democracy, allow Hitler to take power.
1939 - Germany starts World War II.
1939-1945 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.
1941 - Germany forces peace loving Americans to enter war.
1945 - Germany loses World War II.
1946 - Germans whine about lack of food, America gives billions in food aid to feed them.
1947 - Germans whine about crappy economy, America gives billions in
Marshall Plan aid to rebuild German economy.
1948-1949 - America puts ass on line and risk WW3 to save a few
Berliners from Soviet hordes.
1949 - Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) established.
1950's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1950's - German 'economic miracle' occurs while America keeps watch on Soviet hordes.
1955 - NATO formed to protect West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1960's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1960's - German students protest war in Vietnam and American civil rights.
1963 - American President John Kennedy makes "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech.
1970's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1970's - Germans form the marxist terrorist group Red Army Faction (RAF).
1970's - Leftist German guerrillas burn, loot, and plunder much of West Germany.
1980's - America spends tens of billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1980's - German leftist bitch about Pershing II missles.
1987 - American President Ronald Reagan makes "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" speech.
1989 - Gorbachev tears down Berlin Wall.
1990 - German Reunification.
1990's - America spends tens of billions to defend Germany from Islamic hordes.
1990's - Germany stands by as ethnic cleasing occurs in Balkans.
1993 - Germany joins European Union.
1995 - Americans send troops to Bosnia as Germans watch from the sidelines.
1997 - Germans finally send troops to Bosnia.
1998 - Hardline, left-of-left socialist come to power under Gerhard Schroeder.
1999 - American's lead air war to save Kosovo as Germans watch from the sidelines.
2001 - Schroeder offers solidarity to America after 9/11 attacks.
2002 - Schroeder bashes America to distract voters during election campaign.
2003 - Germany sees rise in anti-americanism after several decades of "poor treatment" from America!
2003 - Germany joins hands with the wimpiest country in Europe to support a modern-day Hitler.

Have Germans ever seen a murderous dictator they didn't like?

1941- WROnG- the Japanese provoked the Americans- they were the last people Hitler wanted against him- they learnt thier lesson after the Louisianna incident (Which btw- the U Boat wasn't aiming for)



It's good to see that a country with a history of wrong doing has finally seen what is right- Like has already been said- it is good that Germany don't want to become war criminals alongside Bush

Originally posted by Murco


Have Germans ever seen a murderous dictator they didn't like?

Well,it would appear that they don't like George Bush.

Originally posted by taranaki


Well,it would appear that they don't like George Bush.

OWNED

Originally posted by Murco


1914 - Germany starts World War I


Actually, Austria-Hungary started WW1 in retaliation for the assassination of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand.

You can't really say one nation started WW1 either, it was just waiting to happen.

http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/declarationsofwar.htm

Originally posted by Murco

1914-1918 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.


So did every other nation. Are you going to say the same of them too?

Originally posted by Murco

1917 - Germany forces peace loving Americans to enter war.


Actually, the US deliberately sent many passenger liners through shipping routes, expecting them to be sunk. The Lusitania was sunk because Truman demanded that passenger liners be sent through shipping routes.


Originally posted by Murco

1918 - Germany loses World War I.


No, Germany did NOT lose WW1, everyone lost WW1. Germany was not conquered, although the French decided to impose war reparations to the effect that they were.

Originally posted by Murco

1920's - Germans try democracy.
1933 - Germans reject democracy, allow Hitler to take power.


The great depression in Germany made the one in the US look like a slight market slump. Germany needed action, and that's just what Hitler gave them. Hitler made Germany great again.

Originally posted by Murco

1939 - Germany starts World War II.
1939-1945 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people.
1941 - Germany forces peace loving Americans to enter war.


Actually, Germany invaded Poland. Britain and France started the world war aspect by declaring war on Germany, thinking it would be an easy win, considering their vast superiority of military force.

Originally posted by Murco

1946 - Germans whine about lack of food, America gives billions in food aid to feed them.
1947 - Germans whine about crappy economy, America gives billions in
Marshall Plan aid to rebuild German economy.


Perhaps you should change that to "after the Allies destroyed all of their farmland and supply lines, the German people were starving, and after the Allies had decimated German industry, their economy was ruined."

The US helpfully rebuilt Germany as a dependent colony.

Originally posted by Murco

1948-1949 - America puts ass on line and risk WW3 to save a few
Berliners from Soviet hordes.
1949 - Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) established.
1950's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1950's - German 'economic miracle' occurs while America keeps watch on Soviet hordes.
1955 - NATO formed to protect West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1960's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.


Perhaps if the US and the British Empire had not allied themselves with communist Russia, that wouldn't have been a problem :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Murco

1970's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from Soviet 1980's - America spends tens of billions to defend West Germany from Soviet hordes.
1980's - German leftist bitch about Pershing II missles.
1990's - America spends tens of billions to defend Germany from Islamic hordes.


Wow, again, that wouldn't be an issue if the US had not engineered the Cold War :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Murco

2001 - Schroeder offers solidarity to America after 9/11 attacks.
2002 - Schroeder bashes America to distract voters during election campaign.


Gee, a leader who actually pays attention to public opinion :eek: Maybe Bush and Blair should take notes ;)

Originally posted by Murco

2003 - Germany sees rise in anti-americanism after several decades of "poor treatment" from America!
2003 - Germany joins hands with the wimpiest country in Europe to oppose a modern-day Hitler.


Wow, after 4 decades of being used as a pawn in the Cold War, Germans are somewhat resentful? What a bunch of selfish bastards :rolleyes:

Finally you agree that Bush is a modern day Hitler? Good for you :)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Basic facts are all screwed up here... Murco, do you work for CNN??

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-GTi-VR6_A3

Actually, the US deliberately sent many passenger liners through shipping routes, expecting them to be sunk. The Lusitania was sunk because Truman demanded that passenger liners be sent through shipping routes.



I can see you have no idea who was president when the Lusitania was sunk. The Lusitania was sunk on May 7, 1915. Truman wasn't president until 1945


OWNED!

Originally posted by Jimster
it is good that Germany don't want to become war criminals alongside Bush

War criminal? Is this the new mantra of the anti-american contingent?













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Originally posted by Cbass

Gee, a leader who actually pays attention to public opinion Maybe Bush and Blair should take notes

...

Finally you agree that Bush is a modern day Hitler? Good for you :)

Maybe the majority of the public opinion are for action in Iraq? Maybe the news just covers the protestors because they are stirring up more shit than the people that support Spain, Brittain, and the US.

...

That's just like you to twist someones words around to make them sound like what you want to hear.

How could Bush even be considered a modern day Hitler? He's not killing innocent civilians and if a few do end up dead its not intentional. Now Saddam could be considered a modern day Hitler considering he kills his own people.

Because he "elected himself" somehow. Because "he and he alone" is bringing this war upon the people of Iraq for "no reason". Because he is "the tyrant". Because people that do not even live in the united states do not like him.

Diplomacy failed, just what the hell are we supposed to do? Just wait longer for it to fail again?

The only way I see this thing ended peacefully is if Saddam has a stroke and dies, after shooting his own family members for insubordination. Oh wait, that's not peace.. Saddam isn't about peace.

You can't have peace without war. And if you can, tell me how.

Originally posted by Prelewd
You can't have peace without war. And if you can, tell me how.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t93550.html

You can't have peace without war. And if you can, tell me how
Exactly, in the bible it says there will be a 7 year tribulation followed by 1000 years of peace. I know this won't mean anything to those who do not believe in God, but those who do, understand this.

Exactly, in the bible it says there will be a 7 year tribulation followed by 1000 years of peace.


That would be wonderful wouldn't it?

It would be, however during the 7 years, you have to stand your ground against the anti-christ and resist all of his temptations. It says specifically what your not suppose to allow yourself to recieve, i can't remember what it is specifically. If you do give in, you will be damned to hell.

Well everyone has a different version of Hell. I do pray to my god in my own way. I hope that everyone else does spend at least 5 minutes each week or month giving thanks for someone up there that has given us more then we deserve

Originally posted by TexasF355F1

Exactly, in the bible it says there will be a 7 year tribulation followed by 1000 years of peace. I know this won't mean anything to those who do not believe in God, but those who do, understand this.

if i could somehow know that that is true(im not much for religion). then i would be down for some of that action...

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by YogsVR4


War criminal? Is this the new mantra of the anti-american contingent?

i'm starting to think that...

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by crab
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Basic facts are all screwed up here... Murco, do you work for CNN??
While my comments may be somewhat generalized, they are pretty accurate....
Originally posted by Cbass
Perhaps if the US and the British Empire had not allied themselves with communist Russia, that wouldn't have been a problem
:rolleyes:
You mean DURING the war? That Russia became the biggest threat to Germany after the war, this was our fault? Stalin wanted to annex western Germany, and our refusal to give him all of it was the start of the cold war. If we had given him all of Germany we obviously wouldn't have had to defend it, but I don't see your reasoning here...
:huh:

Originally posted by 1985_BMW318i




I can see you have no idea who was president when the Lusitania was sunk. The Lusitania was sunk on May 7, 1915. Truman wasn't president until 1945


OWNED!

My mistake, I meant to say Wilson, but I object to the title of your post...

I don't see that as ignorance, and I'd be interested to know when in the past I have shown myself to be ignorant. I should think that even those who disagree with my posts, opinions and sources should agree that I am neither ignorant nor misinformed.

cbass is correct lets not get into name calling and shit throwing. just inform him he was wrong and take it as a point for yourself no need to be a jerk:D unless cbass did so first *gives cbass the look* but its kool we all make mistakes and mix things around. lets just all agree to forgive and forget mistakes and lets all agree to disagree WH000t!

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
lets all agree to disagree WH000t!

-GTi-VR6_A3
Aw come on... that's no fun!!:D

Originally posted by Murco

Aw come on... that's no fun!!:D

why not we all still get to disagree:D

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3


why not we all still get to disagree:D

-GTi-VR6_A3


somebody got some good head in the weekend :finger: :D

Originally posted by Jimster



somebody got some good head in the weekend :finger: :D

maayybe...

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
cbass is correct lets not get into name calling and shit throwing. just inform him he was wrong and take it as a point for yourself no need to be a jerk:D unless cbass did so first *gives cbass the look* but its kool we all make mistakes and mix things around. lets just all agree to forgive and forget mistakes and lets all agree to disagree WH000t!

-GTi-VR6_A3


I'm up for some of that.We ALL get passionate about our prejudices at times,but at the end of the day,I for one don't come here to fight.I may not agree with your opinions,but reading them certainly widens my perspective.In these times when government policies are closely related to opinion polls,opinion is almost as important as fact,and opinion is like a three dimensional object.You can't see all of it's sides at once,but you would be foolish to pretend that those that you cannot see do not exist.Let's all try to keep it robust but honest.Name calling has been tried and found to be an unsatisfactory conductor of logic.

Well said, Taranki.

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
cbass is correct lets not get into name calling and shit throwing. just inform him he was wrong and take it as a point for yourself no need to be a jerk:D unless cbass did so first *gives cbass the look*
-GTi-VR6_A3

Ah, you know me, I never resort to name calling, I just come up with facts to refute arguments until the opponent is in a blind rage and can only resort to insult ;)

Except for calling people fools, but that's more accurate, such as when someone remarked that 3000+ people died on Sept 11th because a bunch of Arabs hate freedom so much, they are willing to organize a devastating suicide attack. That sort of dirties the memory of those who died on September 11th... There were quite a few Canadians in those towers as well.

That sort of dirties the memory of those who died on September 11th... There were quite a few Canadians in those towers as well.

There were quite a few people from many countries. Canada, England, Germany, France, really to many to name. Innocent people killed by people filled with hate because of religious extremists. It doesn't matter if they are Islamic, Arab, Buddist or even Christian, There are extremists in each religion.

Originally posted by 1985_BMW318i


There were quite a few people from many countries. Canada, England, Germany, France, really to many to name. Innocent people killed by people filled with hate because of religious extremists. It doesn't matter if they are Islamic, Arab, Buddist or even Christian, There are extremists in each religion.

werd and we should extremely kick their asses...

-GTi-VR6_A3