About 98/99 Maxima ! ! !

Without question, the 98 or 99 Nissan Maxima SE is the fastest sedan (yes…that means “4-door”) recently, if not ever made FOR THE PRICE (…and I mean ORIGINAL MSRP). I know, the 97 model is practically the same as some may claim, but, surprisingly, it is a little different here and there (go ahead and read about it – specs, etc.) so let me break it to you if you have one – technically, it is a little slower than the 98 or 99 model. Getting to the point…I own a 99 Maxima SE 5-spd (ALL STOCK). Tested it out a few times and obtained an average of 6.5 sec 0-60 acceleration. This is a very accurate measurement on my behalf as other sources elsewhere give the 98 and 99 Maxima SE (5-spd) anywhere between 6.5 and 6.7 (Edmunds.com gives 6.6 for instance). Notice that I emphasize “5-spd” everywhere because stock automatic models are obviously slower and go into the 7 second range. I also think it MAY have the fastest quarter mile time (which to some is more important than 0-60 time) as well, but I have not tested that out yet so I cannot say for sure. However, as I mentioned earlier, no recent or past STOCK sedan with a retail price of $22,019 or UNDER (that was the official retail price of a base 99 Nissan Maxima SE 5-spd) beats a time of 6.5. Prove me wrong! But be legitimate!

The 95/96 Maxima 5-speeds are the fastest 4th-gens. They have less emmisions and less restrictions. I believe the 96 is the faster of the two. The got slower by a tick after that until 2002.

well, it's 2003 now, so take into acount inflation, and the bace price of the WRX would be prolly within $1000 of that, and a WRX will woop on a Max

i think pick's more right but i'm not impartial. you took your numbers and compared them to a car-mag , i never trust magazine numbers. gotta think some magazines say around 7 seconds or more for a 4th gen 0-60 but i got it a good deal lower than that stock and even lower now that i got some mods. but my car run a 0-60 in 6.2 and can still get 28 mpg. that's impressive.

Originally posted by thrasher
well, it's 2003 now, so take into acount inflation, and the bace price of the WRX would be prolly within $1000 of that, and a WRX will woop on a Max

To make this fair you picked a turbocharged car to compare to the Max, now all things being equal go ahead and turbo the Max, now the Max will whupp on the WRX.

Even stock it depends on the type of race you're talking about, from the standstill it's the WRX all the way because of its' AWD, but take the advantage of the AWD and start from a roll at about 30 mph and up and then I'd say the Max would own the WRX.

I've seen the WRX and in comparison the Max is bigger, more luxuriously appointed and the reliability of the WRX is still in question whereas a Max has a solid reputation over its' lifespan besides that these 2 cars aren't even in the same class but I'm certain that you knew all of this.

yeah, i do know all of that, he was simply asking for a sedan that is faster than a max at the same price, and i listed one

my friend beat a wrx in his 3.2 cl type s and i can hang with the Acura. i dunno if the wrx is better honestly

Do you even know WHAT the msrp of the base wrx sedan is? I don't think you do. I don't know where you get your sources from (...which are BS), but wrx sedan base is $24,820 - and that's with no add-ons...completely nothing. There you have it, compared to $22,019 for base 99 maxima se 5-spd, almost 3 grand more, not 1 grand. So, you have yet to prove me wrong. Next time, try a little harder.

i was agreeing with you dick-head. i said the wrx ain't even a better car. :flipa:

Originally posted by Maciek
Do you even know WHAT the msrp of the base wrx sedan is? I don't think you do. I don't know where you get your sources from (...which are BS), but wrx sedan base is $24,820 - and that's with no add-ons...completely nothing. There you have it, compared to $22,019 for base 99 maxima se 5-spd, almost 3 grand more, not 1 grand. So, you have yet to prove me wrong. Next time, try a little harder.

I disagree with you. The 95 Max was more refined, faster, cheaper, and used the original Maxima formula. As I mentioned above, They just got slower after the '96 until 2002.

that sounds about right

Originally posted by Paonessa
that sounds about right

Why thank you.:D :D :jumpie: :jumpie: :hehe:

Originally posted by Pick


I disagree with you. The 95 Max was more refined, faster, cheaper, and used the original Maxima formula. As I mentioned above, They just got slower after the '96 until 2002.

They did get slower in some respects but then again if you're only talking 0-60, if you're talking 1/4 mile times the 2k and above are faster but then again they're all Maximas so a comparo of a Max to a Max is a moot point because either gen you pick you are going to get a nice car.

Everything shouldn't always have to be about speed when you got a nice refined car.

Originally posted by bk2kmax


They did get slower in some respects but then again if you're only talking 0-60, if you're talking 1/4 mile times the 2k and above are faster but then again they're all Maximas so a comparo of a Max to a Max is a moot point because either gen you pick you are going to get a nice car.

Everything shouldn't always have to be about speed when you got a nice refined car.

I was kinda referring to the 4th-gens. I didn't mean to start a 4th gen vs. 5th gen argument.

Originally posted by bk2kmax


They did get slower in some respects but then again if you're only talking 0-60, if you're talking 1/4 mile times the 2k and above are faster but then again they're all Maximas so a comparo of a Max to a Max is a moot point because either gen you pick you are going to get a nice car.

Everything shouldn't always have to be about speed when you got a nice refined car.
everyone's gonna have their opinions but i know the "fastest" max's cerainly aren't the 190 hp obd-2 maxima's 98/99. i can understand the argument of the 222 hp 5th gen being faster(i'm not saying i agree, but i understand the argument), but i don't see how he can say an emission restricted obd-2 98/99 is faster than an obd-1 95 that isn't.

to the moron above...

Do you even know WHAT the msrp of the base wrx sedan is? I don't think you do. I don't know where you get your sources from (...which are BS), but wrx sedan base is $24,820 - and that's with no add-ons...completely nothing. There you have it, compared to $22,019 for base 99 maxima se 5-spd, almost 3 grand more, not 1 grand. So, you have yet to prove me wrong. Next time, try a little harder.


ok, here is a little lesson for you buddy. first off, the originial base price for the wrx was $23995, and that was in mid-2001. now if the price has inflated to $24820 by early 2003, then applying that GENERAL inflation model, the base price of the WRX in early-mid 1998 (when the 99 model went on sale) would have been easily been under $23000...are you starting to see my point here @sshole??? anyways, fine, maybe the price wouldn't have been exactly at or under, but with a little elementary economics and common sense (read: what you don't have)
the WRX is in the same territory. you got anything else for me smartstuff???!!!

and you won't understand cause you're a dumbass. Did you actually go out there and test both the 95 and the 98/99 maximas? Nope, I bet you have not! Plus, where in the f$&% did you come up with the "fact" that the 98/99 maximas got slower? I have yet to see a source that states such bullshit. I have seen a FEW sources that say the 95 is only AS FAST as the 98/99, but none that say it's actually faster. You are a complete moron. Even though 0-60 on the 95 MAY be as fast as the 98/99, the 98/99 is still faster in quarter mile and everything else. I agree however, that the 96, 97, 2000, and 2001 maximas were slower (0-60 that is, don't know about 1/4 mile).

Originally posted by thrasher


ok, here is a little lesson for you buddy. first off, the originial base price for the wrx was $23995, and that was in mid-2001. now if the price has inflated to $24820 by early 2003, then applying that GENERAL inflation model, the base price of the WRX in early-mid 1998 (when the 99 model went on sale) would have been easily been under $23000...are you starting to see my point here @sshole??? anyways, fine, maybe the price wouldn't have been exactly at or under, but with a little elementary economics and common sense (read: what you don't have)
the WRX is in the same territory. you got anything else for me smartstuff???!!!

SO LIKE I SAID DIPSHIT, YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE ME WRONG. ALSO, YOUR MSRP PRICES ARE BULL - DO YOU PULL THEM OUT OF YOUR ASS? EITHER WAY, YOU STILL DID NOT FIND A SEDAN THAT I ASKED FOR. NEXT TIME, TRY A LITTLE HARDER ASSHOLE.

Originally posted by Maciek
and you won't understand cause you're a dumbass. Did you actually go out there and test both the 95 and the 98/99 maximas? Nope, I bet you have not! Plus, where in the f$&% did you come up with the "fact" that the 98/99 maximas got slower? I have yet to see a source that states such bullshit. I have seen a FEW sources that say the 95 is only AS FAST as the 98/99, but none that say it's actually faster. You are a complete moron. Even though 0-60 on the 95 MAY be as fast as the 98/99, the 98/99 is still faster in quarter mile and everything else. I agree however, that the 96, 97, 2000, and 2001 maximas were slower (0-60 that is, don't know about 1/4 mile).

You fucking newbie. Go to Maxima.org and ask them who is faster. The 95 and 96's are faster because they have less emissions restrictions(OBD-1) and they have a performance geared ECU. The 98 and 99's are also heavier. YOu better watch who you are calling a "complete moron", especially when you are wrong.

I can't believe this fucking newbie is flaming us. He needs to watch his mouth.


Newb, you are talking out of your ass about something you are wrong about.:finger: :finger:

Do moderators exist on this board?

Jeez.

Originally posted by MaxPayne
Do moderators exist on this board?

Jeez.

Why do we need a moderator?

You don't know jack. I went to maxima.org and they all thought you are a complete idiot. It makes NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL that the 95/96 maximas have less emissions restrictions(OBD-1). That means shit when you compare it to the 98/99 maximas because even though more emission restricted, power and speed were still accounted for in many other ways. As for the so-called "performance geared" ECU, do you even know what that means? You are such a jackass. The only difference in the ECU between the 95/96 and 98/99 max is in the fuel/air mixture ratio you dumbass, which surprisingly does not make it faster at all. If that means "performance geared" to you then you should consider psychological treatment. Hell, you probably need drugs, consider psychiatric treatment instead. And here, the ultimate proof that you have insufficient data on the subject of maximas - both 98/99 and 95/96 maximas weigh exactly 3010 lbs. Therefore, they're not heavier and thus only one conclusion can be drawn - you are a lying bastard. Go ahead, check for yourself asshole.

Originally posted by Maciek
You don't know jack. I went to maxima.org and they all thought you are a complete idiot. It makes NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL that the 95/96 maximas have less emissions restrictions(OBD-1). That means shit when you compare it to the 98/99 maximas because even though more emission restricted, power and speed were still accounted for in many other ways. As for the so-called "performance geared" ECU, do you even know what that means? You are such a jackass. The only difference in the ECU between the 95/96 and 98/99 max is in the fuel/air mixture ratio you dumbass, which surprisingly does not make it faster at all. If that means "performance geared" to you then you should consider psychological treatment. Hell, you probably need drugs, consider psychiatric treatment instead. And here, the ultimate proof that you have insufficient data on the subject of maximas - both 98/99 and 95/96 maximas weigh exactly 3010 lbs. Therefore, they're not heavier and thus only one conclusion can be drawn - you are a lying bastard. Go ahead, check for yourself asshole.

You better watch what the fuck you are saying. You are a fucking newbie. Even if I was wrong, which I don't believe I was, you better watch it. Your not welcome here if you are going to come on here flaming everybody without them even instigating it.:finger:

Originally posted by Maciek
You don't know jack. I went to maxima.org and they all thought you are a complete idiot. It makes NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL that the 95/96 maximas have less emissions restrictions(OBD-1). That means shit when you compare it to the 98/99 maximas because even though more emission restricted, power and speed were still accounted for in many other ways. As for the so-called "performance geared" ECU, do you even know what that means? You are such a jackass. The only difference in the ECU between the 95/96 and 98/99 max is in the fuel/air mixture ratio you dumbass, which surprisingly does not make it faster at all. If that means "performance geared" to you then you should consider psychological treatment. Hell, you probably need drugs, consider psychiatric treatment instead. And here, the ultimate proof that you have insufficient data on the subject of maximas - both 98/99 and 95/96 maximas weigh exactly 3010 lbs. Therefore, they're not heavier and thus only one conclusion can be drawn - you are a lying bastard. Go ahead, check for yourself asshole.

Would you mind posting a link to where you posted on Maxima.org? I am a regular and I didn't see it.

I am 100% sure a 95 SE 5-speed will beat a 99 SE 5-speed. I am going to find info to back this up. The weight figures you put down are wrong anyway. The 95 SE 5-speed is right at 2800 lbs. The 99 is right at 3100 lbs.

Wrong again fag. 95 are slower period. Live with it or buy a new car. Plus dipshit, look on edmunds, cars.com, ...look at any legitimate source and it will state that they do both weigh 3010 lbs. Unfortunately, the article (from previous pages) which you got your bullshit data from has made a mistake. Hell....open the driver door of your 96 (or any other 95/96 for that matter) you idiot and it will say RIGHT THERE INFRONT OF YOU JACKASS.

First of all, I don't have a 95. I have a 2002 and I will eat you alive. Second of all, I checked Edmunds. It has been proven that Edmunds is not accurate because it usually includes the car's options in its weight. If you got ot Nissanusa.com you will see that the 95 weighs 2812 lbs. and the 99 weighs 3015. There's your proof. Straight from the manufacturer.
You are the freaking liar. You didn't even go to Maxima.org because they would have told you that the 95 can beat the 99.
I hate people like you. You give Maxima owners a bad name. And then you instigate shit by posting useless threads.
Like I said before, you are not welcome here if you are going to be an ass.

Originally posted by Maciek


SO LIKE I SAID DIPSHIT, YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE ME WRONG. ALSO, YOUR MSRP PRICES ARE BULL - DO YOU PULL THEM OUT OF YOUR ASS? EITHER WAY, YOU STILL DID NOT FIND A SEDAN THAT I ASKED FOR. NEXT TIME, TRY A LITTLE HARDER ASSHOLE.
You have yet to prove the bull-shit you're trying to feed us. i haven't seen ANY articles comparing one 4th gen to another. show me one that says a 98 is faster than my 95 and we'll all stop arguing. the only reason you newbies get flamed so often is cuz you come in and start shit with nothing to back it up

listen, maciek, you're not gonna get any respect on this forum being an antagonistic @sshole, especially as a newbie. on top of that, as far as my msrp numers go, i was looking at a WRX before i got my Max, so i know how much they cost, if you got your numbers off the internet, then f@ck off...and plus, if the car doesn't come in exactly at or under the price, who cares. it's within a thousand bucks, and when you're paying $22,000 for a car, it doesn make a damn difference. by your standards, no cars can be compared, cause one is always going to be cheaper than another. you really need to grow up

I'm still looking for that MAxima.org thread you posted Maciek. It appears YOU are the liar.:newburn: :newburn:

I admit that you are partly correct. However, technically speaking...there really is no sedan like that - I'm very serious. That is, there is no faster sedan (like i already described) exactly at or below the msrp that i have mentioned. Sure, it may be within 1000 bucks or so, maybe even less...and yes, you are correct in saying that it makes no difference when you're buying a car for 22K...I agree. Hell, even 2K or 3K makes no difference - it doesn't for me at least. I was simply being very exact. Comon, obviously there are MANY cars which come very close in terms of price and speed - and I know that. Maybe you misunderstood me - I simply wanted to illustrate that the parameters mentioned are favorably justifiable - at least to some extent. Thanks

fine, whatever, we all agree as long as you stop posting bull shit.

anyway, if there's one thing i don't know much about it's rims. I was thinking of getting the maxxim def-con6 18 inch rims - what do you guys think? Are they of good quality? Strong enough? Perhaps offer an alternative set of rims? Etc. ???????

u know guys, i jus watched old school the new movie which is a very funny movie, but u know what , this thead is even funnier, gotta love that forum:p

old school is funny shit!!!!

anyways concerning this forum is was very weird watching the newbie attack everyone here!
ahahahhahaha
but hey it's the mistakes we make that one can learn from
anyways
people always say that the 4th gen is the fastest, and I see more 4th gen than 5 gens anyday of the week, but that's my opinion...

there'll always be differences in opinion over which generation is faster. the annoying shit is this kid is trying to break it down even further by comparing different years, of the same generation