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94tegRS
03-17-2003, 09:08 PM
I ran the 1/4 mile a couple days ago in my 92 integra GS-R with a B16A, intake, headers, exhaust, short shifter.... and got a 14.7 at 93.7 mph. How is that time for the car I have ?

sameintheend01
03-17-2003, 10:28 PM
purty damn good ;)

KrNxRaCer00
03-18-2003, 09:40 AM
nice time...ur at the same level as a stock Type R, so that isn't too shabby at all.

GSR
03-18-2003, 09:43 AM
94tegrs...92 gs-r...hmm?

well anyways if you did, good time, but what happened to the b17?

sameintheend01
03-18-2003, 03:18 PM
dont forget the 2002 ferrari....:rolleyes:

dj_gokou_R
03-18-2003, 07:36 PM
Your 92 GSR has a b16?:rolleyes:

KrNxRaCer00
03-18-2003, 08:35 PM
the guy did say in another post that the motor had been swapped out for some reason...

94tegRS
03-18-2003, 10:32 PM
the B16 was swapped for the B16 cause it weighs a little less, has the same horsewpoer but has a lot more potential than the B17.

GSR
03-19-2003, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by 94tegRS
the B16 was swapped for the B16 cause it weighs a little less, has the same horsewpoer but has a lot more potential than the B17.
how do you figure it weighs less? bigger displacement doesnt mean its heavier, all b blocks use the same basic dimensions. the only difference from the b16/b17 is the crank...same peak hp, but different powerbands. b17 has more torque, more torque is always :)

they have the same potential. just about any aftermarket part for a b16 will also fit the b17. lik i said the only diffeence is the crank and consequently rod lenght

94tegRS
03-19-2003, 11:17 AM
what i was told is that the B16 is more reliable than the B17 and that it is easier to get more horses out of it. I was also told that higher revs on the B16 aren't as hard as on the B17.....

GSR
03-19-2003, 11:28 AM
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T, the b16 has close to a perfect r/s ratio that allows it to rev higher safer, but if you want to rev to 10k you'll need wild ass cams that make power up there (toda c, jun 3, etc), pretty strong/stiff valvetrain components, +12:1 compression, etc...you get the point. the jdm b16 makes 10 extra ponies as a result from its higher cr, a b17 w/ the same comprssion would push more hp

PilotMojo
03-19-2003, 03:38 PM
jesus GSR

you my friend are a car genius...

Its amazing reading ur posts dude...

KrNxRaCer00
03-19-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by PilotMojo
jesus GSR

you my friend are a car genius...

Its amazing reading ur posts dude...

hahaha...get off his sack already...:hehehe: j/k, he does seem to kno a bit...jus talk to ppl an u too can become a "gsr"

as for the b17 having more torque...it has 117 compared to 116 if ur comparing the b16a4. if the guy is talking about b16a2/3 then they push out the same power, even tho the b16 has c/r of 10.4:1 compared to the b17's 10:1

stock vs stock, b16a2/3/4 will all rev to 8200, compared to 8k from the b17. jus thought i'd add to ur post a lil gsr :D

94tegRS
03-19-2003, 11:20 PM
i don't think i'm quite at the same level as a stock type-R yet cause i went to the track with one of my buddies and he had a 2000 Type-R and I did a couple runs in it and ran a 14.3 as my best one. His car was bone stock.

PilotMojo
03-20-2003, 07:27 AM
haha
Theres no way in hell i can ever learn all that shit.

theres to much....

GSR
03-20-2003, 10:54 AM
:smoka:
weird how i remember this type of shit yet make C's on all my non-car related classes...college blows

those are peak #'s. b17s have a "fatter" torque curve.

also torque by displacemet is constant, remember 5hp across the whole powerband is better than 10hp for the last 200 revolutions
a cars performance isnt or should be measured by peak #'s only...you wont spend much time @ 8200rpm.

your last comment just adds to my argument; another reason the b16 makes 10 more peak hp is because it revs higher. definition of hp is (torque*rpm/5252=hp)
example:

112tq@8000rpm/5252=170.60hp
112tq@8200rpm/5252=174.87hp

so the higher rpm+higher compression together net the same peak numbers as 1.7l. I'm glad you mentioned that. I was trying to figure out how the hell honda gained 10hp from only 4/10th of a point higher cr :)

KrNxRaCer00
03-20-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by GSR
:smoka:
weird how i remember this type of shit yet make C's on all my non-car related classes...college blows

those are peak #'s. b17s have a "fatter" torque curve.

also torque by displacemet is constant, remember 5hp across the whole powerband is better than 10hp for the last 200 revolutions
a cars performance isnt or should be measured by peak #'s only...you wont spend much time @ 8200rpm.

your last comment just adds to my argument; another reason the b16 makes 10 more peak hp is because it revs higher. definition of hp is (torque*rpm/5252=hp)
example:

112tq@8000rpm/5252=170.60hp
112tq@8200rpm/5252=174.87hp

so the higher rpm+higher compression together net the same peak numbers as 1.7l. I'm glad you mentioned that. I was trying to figure out how the hell honda gained 10hp from only 4/10th of a point higher cr :)

:D im here to help. i didn't really think to goto something as simple as that equation...:hehehe: good point there.

CrazyFukr2k3
03-21-2003, 03:26 PM
what possessed you to put a b16 in a 92 GS-R? 92 GS-R's are liked because they are the nice body style of a gen 2 with the same vtec thats in the 3rd gens. unless your stock engine had hellof miles on it i dont see why anyone would put a b16 in a 92 GS-r

94tegRS
03-22-2003, 08:40 AM
I bought the car like that and don't know for sure why it was swapped out.

KrNxRaCer00
03-22-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by CrazyFukr2k3
what possessed you to put a b16 in a 92 GS-R? 92 GS-R's are liked because they are the nice body style of a gen 2 with the same vtec thats in the 3rd gens. unless your stock engine had hellof miles on it i dont see why anyone would put a b16 in a 92 GS-r

not the same motors at all. if ur arguing that the motor had vtec, so why swap it out? well i personally wouldn't do that swap either, but to correct one thing, the 2nd gen gsr's came w/ the b17a rated at 160hp/117trq. then the 3rd gen gsr's came w/ the b18c1 170/128. i don't understand that argument...but i do understand why ppl would question dropping a b16 in ANY integra.

CrazyFukr2k3
03-22-2003, 12:18 PM
i'd put a b16 in any non GS-R integra. they're cheap and have good #'s

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