Concept Drawings

Hey folks, place your concept vehicles here. I wouldn't put any of your best work out here though, people do steal. So lets see how creative your minds are.

This is my latest concept. The Slingback.

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/dc_smith1989/Concept%20Vehicles/GSAMADSlingbackConcept2.jpg

I got the idea for this car by looking at a ladies shoe.


More to come soon

hey Noob if u dont trust the people here. Dont post here! That was a very offensive comment 2 make.

hey Noob if u dont trust the people here. Dont post here! That was a very offensive comment 2 make.

Hey, whats your problem? How is my comment offensive? Anyone else could agree that people do steal ideas. Thats why I stated that those who post in here should be watchful on what they post in this thread. And you called me a NOOB? Maybe your the offensive one. Maybe you shouldn't post here.

Anyway, I recommend that if wish to post your images; that you place transparent lettering of your name or your companies name like mine for example (GSAMAD: Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design)over your work so that it would make it more difficult for someone to take your ideas.

ya dont just walk into a tight community like this and start throwing negative shit like that around. NooB, we are all aware. This forum has been here for years and it has done just fine without ur observations. So thank for not posting your best work. Thank you for the heads up. Because im not designer, nor a manufacturer I wasn't aware of the risks. And now I know what was wrong with ur concept. It wasnt ur best effort.

ya dont just walk into a tight community like this and start throwing negative shit like that around. NooB, we are all aware. This forum has been here for years and it has done just fine without ur observations. So thank for not posting your best work. Thank you for the heads up. Because im not designer, nor a manufacturer I wasn't aware of the risks. And now I know what was wrong with ur concept. It wasnt ur best effort.

Ok... there is no need for all the conflict that you are causing; your behavior is highly disrespectful, unacceptable, and uncalled for. Now I came into this forum professionally to give car designers including myself to display some of their concept work, and to receive positive feedback from others.

You also continue to call me a NOOB. Yes, I am new to this forum, yet i still act more professionally then you; who should have actually welcomed me to this forum given your experience of being a part of it longer than I have. Now it is my intentions to end all the conflict that has been escalating between you and I by no longer bringing up this issue. So, let move on from this situation and proceed by staying with the original topic of this thread.

Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, GA 30331. United States of America

[email protected]

Despite your best efforts to make light of your comment. You informed this forum that there were thieves in here. With 2 posts under your belt. And they were 2 almost identical threads. De Da Dee. You have every right to post in here. I cant stop that. And I wouldn't want to stifle another artist. Grow and flourish like so many talented people in here have, including myself. But please, keep your negative observations to a minimum. Oh and I tried to google your Company. And well, i was less than successful there. I mean you throw out some crazy warning in your first post. in a forum full of extremely talented artists. who come here to teach, learn and sometimes just to get away from it all. And at the bottom of your post it states that you are the "CEO" of a design/manufacturing firm/company. on the most powerful search engine in the world, the only link was to this thread and your myspace vid and a truckforum. I almost believed you might have a site where i could see some products. I wanted to put my foot in my mouth. I wanted to say this guy is in the industry. He must know what he is talking about. Im sure he has been ripped off. Did Ford steal The new Mustang designs from him? Is he battling with Foose over trade mark infringements? Oh i was so excited!

Despite your best efforts to make light of your comment. You informed this forum that there were thieves in here. With 2 posts under your belt. And they were 2 almost identical threads. De Da Dee. You have every right to post in here. I cant stop that. And I wouldn't want to stifle another artist. Grow and flourish like so many talented people in here have, including myself. But please, keep your negative observations to a minimum. Oh and I tried to google your Company. And well, i was less than successful there. I mean you throw out some crazy warning in your first post. in a forum full of extremely talented artists. who come here to teach, learn and sometimes just to get away from it all. And at the bottom of your post it states that you are the "CEO" of a design/manufacturing firm/company. on the most powerful search engine in the world, the only link was to this thread and your myspace vid and a truckforum. I almost believed you might have a site where i could see some products. I wanted to put my foot in my mouth. I wanted to say this guy is in the industry. He must know what he is talking about. Im sure he has been ripped off. Did Ford steal The new Mustang designs from him? Is he battling with Foose over trade mark infringements? Oh i was so excited!

Yes, your not going to find my company on a website. Before the company was official, we used the truck forum to gather intel on what many truck owners loved and dis-liked about the vehicle they own so that we may proceed with designing a new truck that they could enjoy in the future. We originally used myspace as a website for our company; yet we later deemed it to be unprofessional by our standards. So we have taken the liberty to have our website professionally created and the url to that site will be gsamad_usa.com, expected completion time can only be estimated to late december to early january. You will then be able to view a some of our products.

To give you a little background information on Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design; it originally started off from a video game. Yes, a video game; a video game that the co-founder and I were attempting to create several years ago, similar to Rockstars Grand Theft Auto Series. As time went on, we began to design vehicles for the game, and many of the vehicles had gathered a lot of attention from those who saw the sketches of the games concept vehicles, which were all original and not based off real cars like those of Grand Theft Auto . Many could not wait to drive the vehicles not only in the game; but in real life. Others urged us to create the vehicles in real life rather then placing them in a game were they would become wasted works of art. The co-founder and I agreed and we decide to take the effort to attempt to turn the concepts into real vehicles, thus giving birth to Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design "Group". This "Group" consisted of young talented young men who are very skilled at the art they create, and specialize this talent in automobile design and are very passionate about vehicles as I am. Together, we are trading skills and techniques, providing guidance on car design for those wishing to be a part of the industry, and also working together to create concept vehicles; some of the aspects of this company that many other major automobile manufacturers do not do.

Dispite nearly 8 years of past working experience on creating concept vehicles, it was only about 2 years ago that we decided to turn the group into a functioning company. It ran unofficially until about two months ago, were we became official and are making a all out effort to have some of our concepts turned into real vehicles.

In regards to my statement about those who steal ideas; I apologize for offending you or any others in anyway. I must state I could have re-worded my statement. I am looking forward to starting on new terms with you and hope that we can place our past conflicts behind us and enjoy our time here on Automotive Forums

I hope that this has cleared up any confusion you may of had. If you have any futher questions, please; feel free to email me anytime.


Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, GA 30331. United States of America

[email protected]

This is not my own, but think it's pretty awesome:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries/2008/autos/0803/gallery.chevrolet_camaro_development/images/camaro_drawing.jpg

Come on dude, get rid of your paranoia and start all over again wit a new user name, not anyone will take you serious. I don't want to offend you but your drawing is not professional. Wake up. You'll earn respect with your artwork, not with that cheap CEO-story - is the company in your dads garage?

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6389/gmapsao4.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gmapsao4.jpg)http://img122.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Take a new attempt, we're always very happy to welcome new artists around here.

Come on dude, get rid of your paranoia and start all over again wit a new user name, not anyone will take you serious. I don't want to offend you but your drawing is not professional. Wake up. You'll earn respect with your artwork, not with that cheap CEO-story - is the company in your dads garage?

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6389/gmapsao4.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gmapsao4.jpg)http://img122.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Take a new attempt, we're always very happy to welcome new artists around here.
LoL. I actually laughed out loud. I mean We all have the Dream. Draw a car/truck . Improve on it. Now were designing. I have a DBA. Hey if he has the funds to design a truck and manufacture it. All the power to ya. But, does he understand drawing an original truck concept in his bedroom doesnt make him a designer/manufacturer. It makes him a kid with a dream pretending to have a buisness with his friends. And thats super! hes young he has the world at his feet. I hope some day he does achieve this. But i find it hard to believe that were gonna see the "Dragonheart" In Motor Trend's January 09 issue. Ive Spent too much time on this. Take knightvision's advice. Start new. Wait a few days make a new account. Come back with ur drawings and no 1 will b the wiser.

Come on dude, get rid of your paranoia and start all over again wit a new user name, not anyone will take you serious. I don't want to offend you but your drawing is not professional. Wake up. You'll earn respect with your artwork, not with that cheap CEO-story - is the company in your dads garage?

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6389/gmapsao4.th.jpg (http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gmapsao4.jpg)http://img122.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Take a new attempt, we're always very happy to welcome new artists around here.

No offense taken. However I will not start over with a new username and will not be intimidated by those who wish to speak in a negative way of me or my company; by trying to exposing the status of it by placing images on the web of my company being a home business, or saying that I gave a cheap CEO story, or calling a ten minute sketch I drew unprofessional.

Yes, my company is located at my house. As of now it is a home business. I dont need a large office building at the moment. My operations are running just fine here at my house.

I can only assume that many of you were thinking that when I said I was CEO you would be expecting a older man dressed in a two piece suit puffing on a cigar, and would expect my company to be a large scale auto manufacturing operation equipped with factories and large office buildings.That just simply is not the case as of now. This company is still new and like I stated before, we are attempting to get the ball rolling on producing concept vehicles on a larger scale, it may take a few months, or maybe a few years.

Now you can either applaud the fact that I'm doing something with my life by pursuing my career goals or laugh in my face; you can either support my efforts or try to destroy them; either way, I will be successful.

Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, GA 30331. United States of America

[email protected]

This is not my own, but think it's pretty awesome:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galleries/2008/autos/0803/gallery.chevrolet_camaro_development/images/camaro_drawing.jpg


Yeah, I can wait for that car to come out. I haven't seen it in that color before, pretty sweet.

I'm working on a sketch of a remake of the '78 Corvette. Hey maybe that could be a challege? Why don't you guys try to remake a newer Corvette based on an older model; then we can post them on here to see who can come up with the best concept? I'll make a new Thread...

Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, GA 30331. United States of America

[email protected]

No offense taken. However I will not start over with a new username and will not be intimidated by those who wish to speak in a negative way of me or my company; by trying to exposing the status of it by placing images on the web of my company being a home business, or saying that I gave a cheap CEO story, or calling a ten minute sketch I drew unprofessional.

Yes, my company is located at my house. As of now it is a home business. I dont need a large office building at the moment. My operations are running just fine here at my house.

I can only assume that many of you were thinking that when I said I was CEO you would be expecting a older man dressed in a two piece suit puffing on a cigar, and would expect my company to be a large scale auto manufacturing operation equipped with factories and large office buildings.That just simply is not the case as of now. This company is still new and like I stated before, we are attempting to get the ball rolling on producing concept vehicles on a larger scale, it may take a few months, or maybe a few years.

Now you can either applaud the fact that I'm doing something with my life by pursuing my career goals or laugh in my face; you can either support my efforts or try to destroy them; either way, I will be successful.

Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, GA 30331. United States of America

[email protected]
Hey i respect u wanting to b a designer. And this is soooo not the forum to debate whether u r or r not. But it twists my tit to read that u are an automobile manufacturer. This would mean that u have manufactured an automobile would it not? And why do i care. Be honest to the forum. U can tell every1 in ur highschool that u are the CEO of Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design. Does any 1 in ur Company including yourself, Weld? Have any Cad expirience? Have any Modeling/clay expirience. Besides some video game designing and or Drawing have you used any other design software or have you any drafting expirience? Do you have any type of model in the works? or is it strictly on paper? Im interested now. Im a welder, I have a CNC/CAD/CAM programing certificate. I am a mechanic. Im not the best. I have alot 2 learn. But i know my way around engines and have the tools and paycheck to prove it. I am an autobody tech. I was accepted to the Art Institute of Chicago, But I passed. Despite all this I dont consider myself a manufacturer of automobiles. That would be crazy. When I think CEO its not of A cigar toting 2 peice suit wearing old guy. Thats your dream. I will let it go. Its clearly my problem with you not you with me.

I think the problem is me and Girlbear can't really figure out who or what you are.

Being serious with your "10 min sketch" is like making fun of us around here. I am not a designer. Girlbear isn't. I am actually currently applying for a Transportation Design school. We're working more or less hard and spending a lot of time and money to get better, to become more professional, more skilled. Now you come around and say you're designing cars for real?
Your drawing skills are on a level of a... umm... 16 year-old. Maybe you're 13, then see this as a compliment.

If I was wrong, show us what you got. But don't forget the watermark.

so....is there a site?

is this you?

http://www.myspace.com/gsam_usa

Frankly the majority of this thread is bs.

Art people...post some art...nothing else matters.

-Lemorris

is this you too?

http://no.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&ChannelID=295346660

has the same name but it could be coincidence.

so....is there a site?

is this you?

http://www.myspace.com/gsam_usa

Frankly the majority of this thread is bs.

Art people...post some art...nothing else matters.

-Lemorris

Yes, that was an older myspace page we had created. Looks like hell doesn't it? Thats why I'm getting the site professionally made. there is a newer myspace page but i don't remember the URL i gave it. ill post it on here later for you all.

I think the problem is me and Girlbear can't really figure out who or what you are.

Being serious with your "10 min sketch" is like making fun of us around here. I am not a designer. Girlbear isn't. I am actually currently applying for a Transportation Design school. We're working more or less hard and spending a lot of time and money to get better, to become more professional, more skilled. Now you come around and say you're designing cars for real?
Your drawing skills are on a level of a... umm... 16 year-old. Maybe you're 13, then see this as a compliment.

If I was wrong, show us what you got. But don't forget the watermark.

oh excuse me. I didn't mean to offend any other artist by my 10 minute sketch comment, I was frustrated. To let you know I 18 years of age.

That's great that you are applying for transportation design. I myself will be attending college within the next few months for industrial design and then later on to transportation design. I have also been in contact with Nissan's Bryan Thompson and received helpful tips on auto design. I could offer some tips that he has given me if you like. I would be glad to help in anyway.

Hey i respect u wanting to b a designer. And this is soooo not the forum to debate whether u r or r not. But it twists my tit to read that u are an automobile manufacturer. This would mean that u have manufactured an automobile would it not? And why do i care. Be honest to the forum. U can tell every1 in ur highschool that u are the CEO of Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design. Does any 1 in ur Company including yourself, Weld? Have any Cad expirience? Have any Modeling/clay expirience. Besides some video game designing and or Drawing have you used any other design software or have you any drafting expirience? Do you have any type of model in the works? or is it strictly on paper? Im interested now. Im a welder, I have a CNC/CAD/CAM programing certificate. I am a mechanic. Im not the best. I have alot 2 learn. But i know my way around engines and have the tools and paycheck to prove it. I am an autobody tech. I was accepted to the Art Institute of Chicago, But I passed. Despite all this I dont consider myself a manufacturer of automobiles. That would be crazy. When I think CEO its not of A cigar toting 2 peice suit wearing old guy. Thats your dream. I will let it go. Its clearly my problem with you not you with me.

Yes, i am currently a senior in high school, graduating fall 2008

Yes, I do have someone in my company that is a certified machinist and familiar with cad

No, no one as of now has done modeling in my company. I myself am looking forward to gain this skill.

No, we did not use any other software to create renderings , but we have use a simple yet powerful program known as GameMaker that we are using to create a rendering of an interface we plan to place in all of our vehicles. Perhaps when i have enough of it completed i could make a demo for you all to fool around with.

Yes, we have a model in the works. We have over 120 concepts planned out, some out of the question, while many have the potential at becoming real vehicles; yet our main focus is on a roadster, which will be either gasoline powered or fully electric. Our current stage in that project is preparing to start on the frame work. This is why I decide to place Manufacturer as a part of my company name, I knew we would later build our own vehicles.

I myself am just the founder of this company and a designer of the vehicles, and give input on what i can to those in my company who have the skill to actually build the vehicle.

I hope that I have answer all of your questions. if not, please feel free to email me.....

Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, GA 30331. United States of America

[email protected]

dude

you're 18

just draw

how you do it doesn't matter just draw.

Way too much gum flappin goin on in this thread. ;)

Pictures or it didn't happen.

-Lemorris

dude

you're 18

just draw

how you do it doesn't matter just draw.

Way too much gum flappin goin on in this thread. ;)

Pictures or it didn't happen.

-Lemorris

With you all the way on that one. Lets try to stick to the topic of this thread: Concept Car Drawings. Lets just move on from that other stuff, im tired of talking about it. I'll post up some pics when I can.

With you all the way on that one. Lets try to stick to the topic of this thread: Concept Car Drawings. Lets just move on from that other stuff, im tired of talking about it. I'll post up some pics when I can.
IDK I guess I was just a bitch yesterday. What eva. I got an old concept around here somewhere.

I have a car concept somewhere. cant find it. here i have a concept for the new k5 Blazer. they discontinued them in 1994ish.
i dont really do conceptual stuff.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/Girlbear/00000001.jpg

Yes, if you have something to offer, like advice, teachings, praises, then offer it. This is a place to expose yourself and have peers review it. You can post highly finished work or not. Doesn't matter.

If someone steals it, then God bless them. Maybe they can learn something. Karma will punish them ultimately, though. I totally believe in that. The truth has always risen to the top and revealed what is going on even if you have to search for it.

Some things are easier to hide than others. But you can't run from reality forever.

There are all different levels of people here from pros to students and to very young people who need encouragement.

The original poster posted a drawing that appeared to be from a very young person, a student, who lacks experience but dreams big. That's all fine.

Then the thread devolved into a flame war. Ok, whatever. Kiss and make up and move on.





That is just the way it seems to me.

Yes, if you have something to offer, like advice, teachings, praises, then offer it. This is a place to expose yourself and have peers review it. You can post highly finished work or not. Doesn't matter.

If someone steals it, then God bless them. Maybe they can learn something. Karma will punish them ultimately, though. I totally believe in that. The truth has always risen to the top and revealed what is going on even if you have to search for it.

Some things are easier to hide than others. But you can't run from reality forever.

There are all different levels of people here from pros to students and to very young people who need encouragement.

The original poster posted a drawing that appeared to be from a very young person, a student, who lacks experience but dreams big. That's all fine.


Then the thread devolved into a flame war. Ok, whatever. Kiss and make up and move on.





That is just the way it seems to me.

Hey there, I am the original poster. You gave a pretty good post, very well written. Very encouraging and thoughtful.

Shoot me an email if you like to gather some information on what i know.

Deon Christopher Smith, CEO
Graviline-Smith Automobile Manufacturers and Design
2611 Brooksage Court Atlanta, 30331. United States of America

[email protected]

I have a car concept somewhere. cant find it. here i have a concept for the new k5 Blazer. they discontinued them in 1994ish.
i dont really do conceptual stuff.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/Girlbear/00000001.jpg


hey, thats a nice pic. If i was GM i would have made that vehicle. i think it would be successful. Also, no hard feelings taken at all from any of you. Im a forgiver and willing to give anyone another chance, because i was always given the chance to make right of wrong. Ill catch you guys around, got alot of more stuff coming

oh excuse me. I didn't mean to offend any other artist by my 10 minute sketch comment, I was frustrated. To let you know I 18 years of age.

That's great that you are applying for transportation design. I myself will be attending college within the next few months for industrial design and then later on to transportation design. I have also been in contact with Nissan's Bryan Thompson and received helpful tips on auto design. I could offer some tips that he has given me if you like. I would be glad to help in anyway.

Thank you for offering any tips, I always appreciate that. I was busy with my application portfolio the last few days but will post some stuff within the next days.

I didn't want to offend you either, it just seemed to me that somebody's gotta get you off your high horse when you rushed in here with your CEO story and such. You'll probably know that a professional 10 min sketch looks way different but I don't have to tell you that. Please don't get me wrong.

Thank you for offering any tips, I always appreciate that. I was busy with my application portfolio the last few days but will post some stuff within the next days.

I didn't want to offend you either, it just seemed to me that somebody's gotta get you off your high horse when you rushed in here with your CEO story and such. You'll probably know that a professional 10 min sketch looks way different but I don't have to tell you that. Please don't get me wrong.

Well, first of all, i came in here to see who else draws concept vehicles. The only reason all this hipe came up about me being a CEO is when you all saw my signature.

But hey, you dont have to have a major company to be a CEO. Its true, think about it. if i'm 18 and own my own company, even if it is small, that should mean that just about anyone can own their own business. but yeah, hit me up with an email with your questions when you get the chance.

Deon
[email protected]

Also, working on a new series for Chrysler, should be done in about a week or 2

here is a page of an example of my freehand sketches:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/Page6.jpg

here is a page of an example of my freehand sketches:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/Page6.jpg

nice, would that happen to be apart of Night Rider?

I don't really do concepts, but in what I do professionally, I often must fake it or pretend. Here is a quick 10 minute sketch of me faking it:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/Concept1.jpg

sure it's not so great, but it's only one. to do concept sketches, I would need to do about 30 or 40 of them before I arrived at something I liked.

This is a warm up. I have to draw today for a music video, so this is a fun way to start my work day; a throw-away drawing.

nice, would that happen to be apart of Night Rider?
LOL


yes!

I don't really do concepts, but in what I do professionally, I often must fake it or pretend. Here is a quick 10 minute sketch of me faking it:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/Concept1.jpg

sure it's not so great, but it's only one. to do concept sketches, I would need to do about 30 or 40 of them before I arrived at something I liked.

This is a warm up. I have to draw today for a music video, so this is a fun way to start my work day; a throw-away drawing.

Nice. Let us know when have a final version. the sketch has potential

LOL


yes!

sweet. So you actually worked with NBC on the show?

Nice. Let us know when have a final version. the sketch has potential
there won't be a final version. I don't care about it. It's a throw away drawing. I would need to do dozens more before I wanted to finish it. but I appreciate the acknowledgment. praise always feels good, especially to an artist :iceslolan

sweet. So you actually worked with NBC on the show?

of course

I am a professional artist

I must be able to draw almost anything at moment's notice. last week it was Knight Rider, today it is a music video for Nelly.... talk about unrelated subject matter.. but it keeps me warmed up to draw at any moment, almost anything you can see in front of you. It has taught me to sketch. Sketching is the most valuable kind of drawing.

of course

I am a professional artist

I must be able to draw almost anything at moment's notice. last week it was Knight Rider, today it is a music video for Nelly.... talk about unrelated subject matter.. but it keeps me warmed up to draw at any moment, almost anything you can see in front of you. It has taught me to sketch. Sketching is the most valuable kind of drawing.

yes, this is true. I use to always draw a final version of a concept vehicle. It would come out ok, but could be so much better. Sketching allows you pour out many ideas at once while allowing you to change "this" or add "that" because the shape of what ever you may be drawing is still loose and vague versus immediately creating a final work. There's a little tip.

yes, this is true. I use to always draw a final version of a concept vehicle. It would come out ok, but could be so much better. Sketching allows you pour out many ideas at once while allowing you to change "this" or add "that" because the shape of what ever you may be drawing is still loose and vague versus immediately creating a final work. There's a little tip.

yes and another tip for you would be to work more on your sketching. you seem to want to go too tight too soon. you should look at your sense of perspective and ellipses, receding planes into space. your perspective is very off.

loosen up. you are presently too rigid and impatient to finish while overlooking basic skills. but give it time. you cannot short cut to these things. it may take years. persistence will reap huge rewards. You are very young, only 18 I believe. You have barely started.

yes and another tip for you would be to work more on your sketching. you seem to want to go too tight too soon. you should look at your sense of perspective and ellipses, receding planes into space. your perspective is very off.

loosen up. you are presently too rigid and impatient to finish while overlooking basic skills. but give it time. you cannot short cut to these things. it may take years. persistence will reap huge rewards. You are very young, only 18 I believe. You have barely started.

Hey, your right... once i come up with a sketch, i usually go over it with a heavy line weight and add the shading in the matter of only a few minutes to a half hour. Ellipses i am working on. Compared to my previous wheel drawings, the wheels on the Slingback are a major improvement, yet, i should step up and do better. Just to let you all know, i pretty much learned drawing on my own, so have not received the valuable tips i would learn if i was in an art class or school. By the time i did get into an art class, I was in HS, and i had to change schools and take other classes. So your advice is very helpful and brought some of the errors i have made to my attention.

I have drawn buildings and landscapes; and my perspective is well. However, working with vehicles is a little more difficult for me do in part that vehicles tend to have more extreme angles and body lines. I feel i will get stronger in this aspect though.

I have realized on some of my previous perspective drawings, the front ends or rear ends of the vehicles dont match up with the body.I am paying more attention when i draw to prevent it from happening again. I do not really see it on my Slingback Concept though, but if it were to be off at all, it would most likely be the hood. Is that what you see?

Perhaps you could save a copy of the drawing i drew and highlight the areas needing to be fixed using microsoft paint or printing, highlighting the areas needing correction, then posting a highlighted version of my concept on this thread.

Thank you for your help.

here is a version using the same length of the body and fixing the planes of perspective; note: it's not exactly your design but it will show you what I have been trying to tell you. I used the colors so you can easily see through what I changed:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/V1.jpg


The wheelbase needs to be extended, though, like on the original drawing's idea (I roughly cut and pasted the front onto the car so you can see the wheelbase extended; it is rough only and for demonstration purposes only --it's not finished):

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/V2.jpg

teaching and learning. this is the S&D i love. Despite the bitchy attitudes in here occasionally. this is the best automobile s&D forum on the net!! ur demo is very helpful bonzelite.

thanks, GirlBear

That is what it is all about: sharing

and it's free

Well, first of all, i came in here to see who else draws concept vehicles. The only reason all this hipe came up about me being a CEO is when you all saw my signature.

But hey, you dont have to have a major company to be a CEO. Its true, think about it. if i'm 18 and own my own company, even if it is small, that should mean that just about anyone can own their own business. but yeah, hit me up with an email with your questions when you get the chance.

Deon
[email protected]

Also, working on a new series for Chrysler, should be done in about a week or 2

Ok. Cool. Then I am a CEO too. CEO of my own life. Haven't thought about that yet. Is there any administrative office in your country where you have to register a company? I'm just curious how this stuff is controlled in the US or whether it is at all...

@ Bonzelite: great sketches! I've always admired storyboard art. I mean telling stories without words, erasing any language barriers, that's a very great skill.

When will we be able to see KR in theatres?

here is a version using the same length of the body and fixing the planes of perspective; note: it's not exactly your design but it will show you what I have been trying to tell you. I used the colors so you can easily see through what I changed:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/V1.jpg


The wheelbase needs to be extended, though, like on the original drawing's idea (I roughly cut and pasted the front onto the car so you can see the wheelbase extended; it is rough only and for demonstration purposes only --it's not finished):

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/V2.jpg

Hey; nice job man. You really got it looking good. The sad thing is, i could have done that if i had taken the time to draw it like you said. . I'll fix my old drawing and come up with a newer version of the Slingback based off your fixes.

so....is there a site?

is this you?

http://www.myspace.com/gsam_usa

Frankly the majority of this thread is bs.

Art people...post some art...nothing else matters.

-Lemorris



If that is you... you mispelled Manufacturers on your hi-tech LED scroller. Did you design it as well? It tells me to look at your designs in the Photo album..yet there are no photos there.... (oh it is mispelled all throughout your page)...check it out ... not too Professional!... thanks

great stuff Bonz

you make this site for me

Ok. Cool. Then I am a CEO too. CEO of my own life. Haven't thought about that yet. Is there any administrative office in your country where you have to register a company? I'm just curious how this stuff is controlled in the US or whether it is at all...

@ Bonzelite: great sketches! I've always admired storyboard art. I mean telling stories without words, erasing any language barriers, that's a very great skill.

When will we be able to see KR in theatres?

thank you, knightvision.

KR is on the NBC TV network.

great stuff Bonz

you make this site for me

thank you, lemorris, that is a very high praise from you :smile:

Hey; nice job man. You really got it looking good. The sad thing is, i could have done that if i had taken the time to draw it like you said. . I'll fix my old drawing and come up with a newer version of the Slingback based off your fixes.

In due respect, you needed to see how perspective works before you could have done that. Your next sketches should reflect, then, this learning curve.

Your first sketch did not show any evidence of having established a vanishing point. Notice how on my sketches I have drawn orange lines off into the white space as they go to a point somewhere off the page. That is my established vanishing point. You will benefit from practicing this with every car drawing.

In due respect, you needed to see how perspective works before you could have done that. Your next sketches should reflect, then, this learning curve.

Your first sketch did not show any evidence of having established a vanishing point. Notice how on my sketches I have drawn orange lines off into the white space as they go to a point somewhere off the page. That is my established vanishing point. You will benefit from practicing this with every car drawing.

yes, i dont dont draw vatange point lines on my cars. I should have done so with vehicles like i did with my buildings and lanscapes. Hey, we'll se what happens though. Im working on something for chrysler a whole new series. Should have it by the end of the week

GSAMAD--You're getting the kind of help/education from Bonzelite that many in other places would have to pay for in time and money.
Hope you take to heart and practice what he's giving to you.

thank you, knightvision.

KR is on the NBC TV network.

Bummer! Then I'd have to download it illegally! I got no chance to get NBC over here in Europe. Man how I loved the '80s original show on Sunday afternoons.

Oh and here's a sketch of some long hood Gran Turismo.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7638/granturismofv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/granturismofv3.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img372/granturismofv3.jpg/1/)

GSAMAD--You're getting the kind of help/education from Bonzelite that many in other places would have to pay for in time and money.
Hope you take to heart and practice what he's giving to you.

Absolutely. I will never forget those who help me. I am not the kinda of person who would receive help from someone, then give them my a** to kiss. Dont worry, I will repay those who are truely seeking to help me like Bonzelite and many others I know. So stay in contact; cant hook you up with one of my future concepts if i cant get in touch with you...

Bummer! Then I'd have to download it illegally! I got no chance to get NBC over here in Europe. Man how I loved the '80s original show on Sunday afternoons.

Oh and here's a sketch of some long hood Gran Turismo.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7638/granturismofv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/granturismofv3.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img372/granturismofv3.jpg/1/)

Nice. Very clean body to it. Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not really feeling the front grille too much, its working; but its a little bit rigid. So if you plan on updating her, soften her up a bit by making the grille more sleek. I think that would really make her stand out. Other then that, its very clean and sporty.

I think I got something i drew in the archives that could compete with that Turismo of yours. So i have about three or four drawings to post up, a thing i got working out for chrysler, a new version of my slingback concept, and then the car i got that could compete with that gran turismo of yours. Should have them up by friday evening, if not, atleast by sunday night.

Yeah i think I get your point, I wanted to combine a narrow, vertical grill with a wide lower intake, but it became a bit too small I guess. Maybe a bar at the upper section of the grill would help to increase its visual presence.

I got a few more others and will post them every once in a while.

And I'm curious about yours.

Bummer! Then I'd have to download it illegally! I got no chance to get NBC over here in Europe. Man how I loved the '80s original show on Sunday afternoons.

Oh and here's a sketch of some long hood Gran Turismo.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7638/granturismofv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/granturismofv3.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img372/granturismofv3.jpg/1/)

that sketch is beautiful, like a professional. It reminds me of a Cadillac design; I mean that as a compliment, Caddy has awesome design. It's the best concept so far posted in this thread.

My only critique would be to widen the whole body, ie, front and windshield. Other than that you are good to go. The ellipses and spoke spacings are nearly perfect.

About Knight Rider, I'm sure it will be syndicated before long. I've never watched the new version of the show, but others say it's not very good!

knightvision,

here is more realistic body width. I chopped it and pasted it for you to see what I was talking about. This is only to give you an idea about keeping the body wider and not so thin.

Your first concept is great, but the body width would only fit one person inside of it, with one seat, with the steering wheel in the middle of the car. Watch your proportions.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/Concept2_demo.jpg

knightvision,

here is more realistic body width. I chopped it and pasted it for you to see what I was talking about. This is only to give you an idea about keeping the body wider and not so thin.

Your first concept is great, but the body width would only fit one person inside of it, with one seat, with the steering wheel in the middle of the car. Watch your proportions.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd170/viscountaero/Concept2_demo.jpg

Wow thanks Bonze!

The whole grille problem I had with the grille I mentioned above is solved now. I wanted to have a narrow greenhouse section, but I guess you're right, it would only be a one seater then. It now still looks like I wanted to have initially, though.

And thanks for your nice words, this is what gives me confidence. I'll be delivering my portfolio to Pforzheim University tomorrow, so please keep your fingers crossed...

Wow thanks Bonze!

The whole grille problem I had with the grille I mentioned above is solved now. I wanted to have a narrow greenhouse section, but I guess you're right, it would only be a one seater then. It now still looks like I wanted to have initially, though.

And thanks for your nice words, this is what gives me confidence. I'll be delivering my portfolio to Pforzheim University tomorrow, so please keep your fingers crossed...

You are a very talented young man. You deserve the best and to have your dreams fulfilled. Keep in the game. It will pay off.

You're already drawing on a near-professional level. Believe me; I am a professional and you have impressed me for the years we've been on here. You have very fresh ideas and you have skills. Pforzheim U will be impressed.

You are a very talented young man. You deserve the best and to have your dreams fulfilled. Keep in the game. It will pay off.

You're already drawing on a near-professional level. Believe me; I am a professional and you have impressed me for the years we've been on here. You have very fresh ideas and you have skills. Pforzheim U will be impressed.

Well what shall I say... that's one of those very special compliments I earned yet and it means a lot to me, especially from a pro like you.

I just hope Pforzheim sees it the same way as you do ;-)

But even if not, words like these keep you going. My chances are 1:10 but if you don't believe in it from the start I guess you shouldn't try in the first place, so it's motivation and confidence what you need I guess.

Maybe I shouldn't talk so much... More Mercedes:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9899/mercedeslimolb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/mercedeslimolb2.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img75/mercedeslimolb2.jpg/1/)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3845/mercedes2nb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/mercedes2nb7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img146/mercedes2nb7.jpg/1/)
Unfortunately, I noticed too late that it's twisted.

However, GSAMAD seems to run a very busy company... didn't he tell us to show us some new drawings last weekend?