General Powell endorses Obama
ericn1300
10-19-2008, 10:24 PM
MagicRat
10-20-2008, 09:53 AM
This is another sign that the McCain campaign is becoming progressively less relevant to many moderate Republicans.
BNaylor
10-20-2008, 10:13 AM
This is another sign that the McCain campaign is becoming progressively less relevant to many moderate Republicans.
Can you support that comment? I disagree. IMO Powell's endorsement is irrelevant to moderate Republicans. I could care less about it.
Here is the real reason for Powell's endorsement of Obama. :sly:
Source: MSNBC and NBC
Oct. 19, 2008
Obama said in an interview airing Monday on NBC’s TODAY that he welcomed Powell’s support and looked forward to discussing what role, if any, Powell might have in an Obama administration should he be elected.
“Here is what I can say for certain: He will have a role as one of my advisers. He has already served in that function even before he endorsed me,” Obama told NBC’s Matt Lauer. “Whether he wants to take a formal role — whether there’s something that’s a good fit for him — I think is something that he and I would have to discuss.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/
Can you support that comment? I disagree. IMO Powell's endorsement is irrelevant to moderate Republicans. I could care less about it.
Here is the real reason for Powell's endorsement of Obama. :sly:
Source: MSNBC and NBC
Oct. 19, 2008
Obama said in an interview airing Monday on NBC’s TODAY that he welcomed Powell’s support and looked forward to discussing what role, if any, Powell might have in an Obama administration should he be elected.
“Here is what I can say for certain: He will have a role as one of my advisers. He has already served in that function even before he endorsed me,” Obama told NBC’s Matt Lauer. “Whether he wants to take a formal role — whether there’s something that’s a good fit for him — I think is something that he and I would have to discuss.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/
2strokebloke
10-20-2008, 11:32 AM
BNaylor = many moderate Republicans. :icon16:
Actually your snippet doesn't explain at all why Powell is getting behind Obama - so he's giving him advice - ok, but why should he advise Obama and not McCain - or why advise anybody? We could take Powell's own words for it... or...
Actually your snippet doesn't explain at all why Powell is getting behind Obama - so he's giving him advice - ok, but why should he advise Obama and not McCain - or why advise anybody? We could take Powell's own words for it... or...
BNaylor
10-20-2008, 01:04 PM
BNaylor = many moderate Republicans. :icon16:
Are you a moderate Republican? :biggrin:
Actually your snippet doesn't explain at all why Powell is getting behind Obama - so he's giving him advice - ok, but why should he advise Obama and not McCain - or why advise anybody? We could take Powell's own words for it... or...
It doesn't make any difference. It came from the horse's mouth Obama himself which is what really counts. Quid Pro Quo no matter how you slice the pie. Also, Powell has a big credibility issue since he was one of the architects of the Iraq War aka Operation Iraqi Freedom and probably suffering from a guilt complex and his falling out with the Bush administration. Comments during his interview with Tom Brokaw doesn't help either which to many raises the race issue.
Moderator Tom Brokaw said: "There will be some ... who will say this is an African-American, distinguished American supporting another African-American because of race."
Reply from Powell:
"I can't deny that it will be a historic event when an African-American becomes president," Powell continued, speaking live in the studio. "And should that happen, all Americans should be proud — not just African-American, but all Americans — that we have reached this point in our national history where such a thing could happen. It would also not only electrify the country, but electrify the world."
The bottom line for me is I can think of and name other credible retired 4 star generals that would be in a better position to endorse a presidential candidate and for either McCain or Obama to seek advice from. But does the American public really care about what they think or who they endorse for POTUS. IMO No! :grinno:
Are you a moderate Republican? :biggrin:
Actually your snippet doesn't explain at all why Powell is getting behind Obama - so he's giving him advice - ok, but why should he advise Obama and not McCain - or why advise anybody? We could take Powell's own words for it... or...
It doesn't make any difference. It came from the horse's mouth Obama himself which is what really counts. Quid Pro Quo no matter how you slice the pie. Also, Powell has a big credibility issue since he was one of the architects of the Iraq War aka Operation Iraqi Freedom and probably suffering from a guilt complex and his falling out with the Bush administration. Comments during his interview with Tom Brokaw doesn't help either which to many raises the race issue.
Moderator Tom Brokaw said: "There will be some ... who will say this is an African-American, distinguished American supporting another African-American because of race."
Reply from Powell:
"I can't deny that it will be a historic event when an African-American becomes president," Powell continued, speaking live in the studio. "And should that happen, all Americans should be proud — not just African-American, but all Americans — that we have reached this point in our national history where such a thing could happen. It would also not only electrify the country, but electrify the world."
The bottom line for me is I can think of and name other credible retired 4 star generals that would be in a better position to endorse a presidential candidate and for either McCain or Obama to seek advice from. But does the American public really care about what they think or who they endorse for POTUS. IMO No! :grinno:
ericn1300
10-20-2008, 06:50 PM
Are you a moderate Republican? :biggrin:
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but yes I was a conservative Republican with Libertarian leanings but went independent when the fascist Social Conservatives hijacked the party with all their religious crap and personal intrusions into individuals lives.
Powell was a lot more diplomatic in his endorsement when he said:
I have some concerns about the direction that the party has taken in recent years it has moved more to the right than I would like to see it, but that’s a choice the party makes.
And I chose to leave the party.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but yes I was a conservative Republican with Libertarian leanings but went independent when the fascist Social Conservatives hijacked the party with all their religious crap and personal intrusions into individuals lives.
Powell was a lot more diplomatic in his endorsement when he said:
I have some concerns about the direction that the party has taken in recent years it has moved more to the right than I would like to see it, but that’s a choice the party makes.
And I chose to leave the party.
2strokebloke
10-20-2008, 07:05 PM
Are you a moderate Republican? :biggrin:
More moderate than you are apparently.:tongue:
Powell has a big credibility issue since he was one of the architects of the Iraq War aka Operation Iraqi Freedom and probably suffering from a guilt complex and his falling out with the Bush administration.
I think he's earned a fair degree more credibility after his falling out than he would have if he'd stayed on with that loony bunch - although being associated in anyway with that disaster should be a major stain on anybody's political resume... it hasn't really damaged McCain or Obama substantially, so I don't think it'll pull down public opinion of Powell any either.
More moderate than you are apparently.:tongue:
Powell has a big credibility issue since he was one of the architects of the Iraq War aka Operation Iraqi Freedom and probably suffering from a guilt complex and his falling out with the Bush administration.
I think he's earned a fair degree more credibility after his falling out than he would have if he'd stayed on with that loony bunch - although being associated in anyway with that disaster should be a major stain on anybody's political resume... it hasn't really damaged McCain or Obama substantially, so I don't think it'll pull down public opinion of Powell any either.
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