Srt4 Vs Wrx

How many actual Wrx drivers ( that know hw to drive awd) have lost to the Srt4 wich can in reality,on the street beat a SpecV or Rsx s
i have a personal record of 5-0 using my friends "stock"WRX versus who knows if they were moded SRT 4's..not even close


Srt's are apitizers


c'mon tell the truth and know one that is afraid to drop at 4k.. its under warrantee and the Srt'4drop high as well


this should be enlightening the real world not magazine racing or a video of who knows what/// lest you forget even the regular wrx is a world class raly champ.. the Srt a girls car with a ricer wing and that smile of "hello' they are known for...gmab

since i've never seen any srt4s around... hmm...
there's a video i saw of a srt4 with temp tags walking a wrx in it...

and the srt4 has more hp and quicker 1/4 times...

runs 14.2
whats a wrx run?

and the srt4 is rated at 215hp at the crank, but puts 220ish to the wheels and 250ish tq...

(per automobile magazine)

it's not just some girls car.

sorry.

and considering there aren't any mods yet available, you didn't race any modded ones.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t89890.html

the video's there..

the srt4's only hit the dealerships like a month ago, you sure you're not racing regular neons? :hehehe:

and you say 5 here, but in another thread you say you've only raced 3 :confused:

the srt4 has a 100mph trap speed stock, much faster than any stock wrx. any idiot who knows how to shift should be able to waste a stock wrx in a stock srt4 anywhere above 30mph.

thank you... :licker:

around here people got the srt's already acting all bad ass but the car's are not that bad-ass at all, just last week did i take one with my scooby 2.5 rs (with mod's), no biggie.
-Dave
p.s. they're pretty quick and they'll definetly smoke your average civic, hehe.:D

I have the Dodge dealership calling me daily ..would you like me to take a pic at all the Srt available.. and yes they are all he Srt4 with a tiny little boost gauge toyour right.. i say 3 for sure because the 2 other "may have been" Sxt or R/T that were moded and their outward appearance was stock.. but the test driving.. which is the end all be all tells a different truth.. hat speedo doesnot crank up like a Mustang Gt which also trap around 101 stock.. noway no how.. sre you canbe fooled driving the car ,..its light light cars feel faster the tach pulls freely the boost goes to 1 bar firly immediade above 2800 rpm but the SPEEDO.. well i'll tell you like i said before maby its stepping out of my WS6 or th Zr1 or even the Modded Spec V that give me no real impression of the cars capabilities.. a 2.4 turbo.. sorry keep you eye on the speedo..as my nephew was all ooh and awwed the viseral sensation my eye stayed on the speedo climb....
hey you like good for you
i think my spec can chew it up and my Lincoln LS from a roll at 65 mph would spit it out the tail pipes..

I'd but a 1 year old Mustang Gt b4 i'd buy the Srt4.. i nice but not the car that people think.. to much hype.... you see You never driven one.. so hold your comments till you do.. i research before i open my mouth.... You don't think i would love to se a domestic walking the walk.. and as far as Wrx being btter in what respect the Srt interior is great fit and finish is on par .. and why unless yor in snow or constant rain would the Wrx be better? it has AWD and should and can out accelrate a Srt from a stop stock for stockat leat in 85* temps
Like i've said you never address temp senstivity .. ask thee 03 cobra guys about that why a stck 03 cobra making all Hp can only manage a low 13 no beete than a stock N/A Ls1?????? TEMPERATURE

Sorry allow me to be more civil a slow my typing.

the Dealership is Fairbanks Dodge in Coral springs Florida , if you'd like a # i can provide it.. they had a minimum of 20 Srt 4 as of yesterday .. no Blacks but all other colors were available they had alot of yellow aand silver

and i did say ( i'm reiterating) that the last Srt4 i drove felt better than the previous ones.. but i'll repeat again.. when i switched and let my Boy racer Nephew flog it..and as he was impressed so much with its site and sound experience ..all i did the whole time was watch his spedo .. amazinf as he was flogging the hell out of the SRT4 it never got over 70mph.. did it feel faster ..yes but it wasn't faster..
untill they fully release them you may not have the opportunity to drive one.. i hope they feel like the latter car wich did seem t have more punch than the others.. as of now Dodge has only released them to select" fast & furious" markets to see how they are received.. Knowing the Fairbanks manager i got a little inside info .. that dodge was still test marketing the car to see where to sell it..

954-973-3444 Call em.. see how many hot shot Srt4 are just sitting on the lot

and agin overall not a bad car interior exterior.. stereo

I'll say this If the Wrx isn't faster then there is no reason to buy it..!! when you get more for your money from Dodge compare interiors and that alone may do it

Have a Great day and don't forget to dail 10-10-220

ask thee 03 cobra guys about that why a stck 03 cobra making all Hp can only manage a low 13 no beete than a stock N/A Ls1?????? TEMPERATURE

there's also traction issues, considerable amounts of low end torque, track surfaces, gearing, let's get into the issues that make drag racing what it is.

b/c you're not. forced induction cars have less sensitivity to temperature, though cooling between runs helps.

there's so much more to it that you're not addressing, but trying to base it on temperature.

and for god's sake, take your time and proof read everything so we don't have to deciper it.

and you probably want to do the same in your signature, there's some horrible grammar there.

Listen smart guy .. ive addresed all tthose thing on LS1.com.. that the Cobra is geered a bit too steep and all that low end torque would be a detrement to its traction capabilities.. i've told them of impropely geared cars with more hp losing to less hp'red more carefully geared cars..

a car technical performformance is based upon its syergy with hp/tq suspension tires gearing and temp sensitivity

dude i've been racing for 15 years

i don't ned a lesson.. the cars i have now are the slowest i've had in about 7 years but they suit me fine..

i' builfdng another kit Ac Cobra .. with the weight hp and suspension i'll be using it will be the ultimate overall car that i'll own. it will handle ..1.2g+ it will accerate i', figuring with the hp froma 347 s/c stoker 10 second 1/4 the interior will be painstakenly put together with the best Year one and i can find and the suspension
well hell thats the easy part.. Steeeda will provide everything i need..
you act as though i don't know cars.. .. tust me pal i 've had turbo/ s/c nitrous luxury sleeper.. go cart type moster miata w/ a5.0 i think i've covered every configuration .. except for a true Awd monster.. but i live in Florida not really a greeat need for it.. since i can drift any rwd car around a track at will

not to be an asshole or anything, but this isn't ls1.com.

so it sounds like you're saying that it's all about the temp.

if you've not said it here, do so, so we're not questioning it.

i can't read your mind, and i'm not on the sites you're on save for this one.

i'm not quite sure why you feel the need to give me a background on everything you own, like i'm going to respect that, or assume you know what you're talking about.

i can't figure out what you meant to say.

if you don't say anything about the other factors in this thread right here, i'm assuming you're neglecting them.

you've proved that wrong, but it's easier to do it the first time around.

and i'm still going to ask you to proofread what you're typing. take your time and don't get pissy with me.

i've considered a cobra kit car as well, but i don't have the cash... have fun with that...

You've been racing for 15 years, but you haven't been spelling for 15 years have you?

forget about it...
he's gone permanently.

If were talking about the WRX STI it be a joke the ownage the neon would feel! It be a bit more fair with a basic WRX but i think the WRX would win and doesn't the neon lacks an LSD that hurts off the line alot with that much power(i'll leave my HO out of that)

too bad the STI dont have a $20k price tag :(

Originally posted by Ace$nyper
If were talking about the WRX STI it be a joke the ownage the neon would feel! It be a bit more fair with a basic WRX but i think the WRX would win and doesn't the neon lacks an LSD that hurts off the line alot with that much power(i'll leave my HO out of that)

The SRT, LSD or not, will murder a WRX, stock-to-stock.

hydro...ease up on the attitude, man.

Simmer down.

Originally posted by lordvektra
too bad the STI dont have a $20k price tag :(
Too bad neon SRT-4's don't have a 20K pricetag either unless it's been ordered....They're going for dang near 30 grand here...it's rediculous..I'd never pay 30k for a neon..I don't care if it came with a spare set of sprewells and the popes shoe's...

Sup guys. This is my first post and first night reading these forums. I wanted to comment on the 30,000 amount for the SRT-4. I test drove one the other day in Dublin, Ca and its on sale for 18,999 with no dealer mark up either. As far as the test drive goes. It drove fairly well. It seemed to pull a little bit to right quite often when given some gas. The salesman with me was like 20 years old and it was his 3rd day there. So lucky me he was in a mood to try anything for me to buy the car. I ripped through the gears twice and you easily do about 85-90 in 3rd gear. I know the specs say 96mph at 3rd gear redline. Im only 5foot 7 165 lbs and the racing style seats were a very tight fit. The car having no muffler sounds really good. When down shifting you can hear very loud pops. The inside is very plain like a civic or reg. neon but hey... 20 grand and a engine like that you cant complain to much. All in all i love the fact that a american company threw a import style car into the mix worth looking at. It will only make the other companies work harder. I love the rival ways of the wrx and evo that has begun. For me personally im going with the WRX STI over everything including the RX8,evo,350z,is300 ect ect because not only does it have the most horsepower but to me its the most refined of the cars. As they say though.. opinons are like a$$holes. Everyone has one. :smile:

BTW - I have a 99 Eddie Bauer SUV because of my 3 year old daughter. Now that shes grown a little its time for Daddy to get a new toy!!!

well....the SRT-4s r pretty quick if they can beat those STis. wut about the EVO 8 and the NEW STi's, for sure they can beat the SRT-4 if they can hit 13s, but its all about the driver. Have u guys tested out the SRT-4s REAL 1/4 mile time?? im sayin around 14.2 to 14.7 wit a driver, high 13s with a good driver. but i dunno cuz i dont even drive stick.

Lol...This is great..first..A SRT-4 can't really beat ALL Sti's...it sure as hell can't beat a 22B and it sure as hell can't beat every car within the STi chain...The SRT-4 really has no chance at the new STi either..As far as the Lancer Evolution VIII....I don't care..it's a horrible car..I hate it...I'll never like it..And I'll never uderstand what Mitsu was thinking when they were designing it..tsk tsk tsk..

Originally posted by Silver_GTR34
well....the SRT-4s r pretty quick if they can beat those STis. wut about the EVO 8 and the NEW STi's, for sure they can beat the SRT-4 if they can hit 13s, but its all about the driver. Have u guys tested out the SRT-4s REAL 1/4 mile time?? im sayin around 14.2 to 14.7 wit a driver, high 13s with a good driver. but i dunno cuz i dont even drive stick.

There were two guys running them at the track two weeks ago when I went. Both of them were pulling high 14s and low 15s at sea level in 75 degree weather. I was impressed but not wow'd.

High 14's low 15's if you have a broken leg and arm. I was at the track last weekend and I was running at my worst time 14.3. Read up on the SRT a little bit more before you say something like that.

Originally posted by hydro628
High 14's low 15's if you have a broken leg and arm. I was at the track last weekend and I was running at my worst time 14.3. Read up on the SRT a little bit more before you say something like that.

I actually know all about the srt, and since I saw it with MY OWN TWO EYES two weekend ago, no reading is necessary. I didn't say that's all they were capable of, I said THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE RUNNING two weekends ago at Maryland International Raceway. Another board member was there, Civic_gsr_t4 so maybe he saw them too. I don't know what the circumstances were but that's still what they were pulling, allll day long, rather you like it or not. Slips of your 14.3 pass? Where at? Conditions when pulled? And most importantly, what was your MPH?

Don't make an enemy out of me...I already dislike enough srt owners as it is:rolleyes:

If I had a scanner or camera I would be more than happy to show you the 14.3. I hit 98.6 mph for that time, but I ran better times than that.

I saw a badass SRt-4 down in daytona. Just go buy one of those 1-time use cameras from CVS :biggrin2:

SRT-4 are nice, but i rather see the NEW STi or an EVO8 on the road than a SRT-4. no offence to SRT-4 drivers.

Since we're on that subject, here's a direct quote from an SRT owner in their board:

Originally posted by Edward Lovejoy Jr.
What do you mean Supras are out of the SRTs league? The SRT is faster than a stock Supra, check the specs online. And besides, many Supras are old and losing horsepower. I had financing for 40k but chose the SRT anyway, because it's the baddest ass ride available!

Here's the thread:

http://srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4893&perpage=15&pagenumber=9

I don't see how Supra's are runnin 14.2 unless their drivers are...You know..horrible...Because that's what neon SRT-4's run 14.1's and 14.2's..Last time I checked a Supra ran 13.3 in the 400M which is only 7.7 feet less than a real 1320 1/4 mile....Which is no room for .9 seconds.........

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Since we're on that subject, here's a direct quote from an SRT owner in their board:
Here's the thread:

http://srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4893&perpage=15&pagenumber=9

Hahah, those guys are even more of a joke than I first thought, LOL. That's just absolutely horrible:loser:

Those guys sure are intelligent..I'll tell you..:rolleyes:

once again, where so you stand in this chart hydro?
http://www.scoobymile.com/
and on the other thread, you said you can kick my ass, so here is my mod list just for your reference
Turboxs UTEC engine management, Turboxs FMIC, Blitz SBC-ID, Power Enterprise1818 (same hp rating as a 18g turbo at 400hp), godspeed uppipe and downpipe, HKS carbon titanium catback, STi fuel injectors and fuel pump. Greddy airnix intake, STi tranny and engine mounts and Denso iradium spark plugs heat rage 8, Turboxs launch control ( 8psi at launch, full boost between shifts, kinda like a cheating missing fire system) I am no longer using NOS becuz it is destroying my engine ( knock sensor is going crazy while spraying )
upcoming mod by the end of this summer,
STi 6 speed swap, garrett GT25 turbo (shooting for 400whp), maybe just maybe JE pistons and rods.
best time is at 11's with nos about 1 year ago,
now I am shooting low 12's.
by the end of summer, I should be back to 11's again.
I have great respect of SRT4, but you are making me losing it......

Let's face the facts.
Sure the Neon is all grand and all but it is still a piece of shit...Ever since its first release. just becuase they put a bigger engine in it and highered the gear ratio so it can do 96 in 3rd means shit to me.
The WRX has owned up to its name in every way. And its a beast of a car. Originated for a Rally who can beat that.
I would much rather compare a WRX to a reg neon and the STi i will leave to stomping the SRT.....Oh and for the price difference, i will pay much more for better quality.

Geez..A little hostility goin on here...
The Neon hasn't been a piece of "schiet" since it's debut.....Did you completly forget about the Dodge Neon ACR?...That was yet ANOTHER bargain street killin 4 cylinder car..IT was a great car..and now they have the SRT-4.....Sure..The SXT and R/T wern't ULTIMATE cars..but look at their price tags?...How many ULTIMATE Cars can you buy brand new for 11 thousand dollars like you could almost ANY model neon in the past?......Now the SRT-4....Only 19,995 .....Turbocharged 2.4Liter Magnum 4 cylinder .....OH wow..it lacks a LSD...And it STILL pulls 14.2 in the 1/4 mile.....it's a One wheel wonder...and it lives WELL beyond any previous neons expectations...And it completly blew me out of the water when I first read it's specs....Don't clown on a car as bad as you have...because no car in the history of automobiles has had a unblemished past...All models have strong points and weak points...A Neon's strong point is that it's a bad azz car..It's weak point..Is it's a NEON...I can deal with people thinking my car is less than what it really is....Aslong as my car can wax their cars...

---Edit---

Have you ever ridden in one, or raced one?...If not...leave your bias opinions at the door.

Oh god, screw you guys for reminding me about srtforums :lol: :lol: :lol:

I registered the name eXtremeSRT on there a good while ago because of some of their stupidity I found linked on another forum I had to post about, and I've gone back a few other times for more stupidity. Now I've just posted again, I know I'm gonna regret it cuz I'm gonna get sucked back into there :lol:

I have nothing against Neon SRT4's, in fact I wish somebody I knew would buy one so I could drive it around :tongue: but some of those drivers really need to get their heads back into reality. There are a few good people over on that board, but they get overrun by the idiots.

Man, this bugs me. These guys are giving us Mopar people a bad name. The SRT-4 is a great car for the price but some of the claims these people are making is pure bullshit.

I agree, there are a lot of stupid SRT-4 owners out there.

Originally posted by Shinez
Geez..A little hostility goin on here...
The Neon hasn't been a piece of "schiet" since it's debut.....Did you completly forget about the Dodge Neon ACR?...That was yet ANOTHER bargain street killin 4 cylinder car..IT was a great car..and now they have the SRT-4.....Sure..The SXT and R/T wern't ULTIMATE cars..but look at their price tags?...How many ULTIMATE Cars can you buy brand new for 11 thousand dollars like you could almost ANY model neon in the past?......Now the SRT-4....Only 19,995 .....Turbocharged 2.4Liter Magnum 4 cylinder .....OH wow..it lacks a LSD...And it STILL pulls 14.2 in the 1/4 mile.....it's a One wheel wonder...and it lives WELL beyond any previous neons expectations...And it completly blew me out of the water when I first read it's specs....Don't clown on a car as bad as you have...because no car in the history of automobiles has had a unblemished past...All models have strong points and weak points...A Neon's strong point is that it's a bad azz car..It's weak point..Is it's a NEON...I can deal with people thinking my car is less than what it really is....Aslong as my car can wax their cars...

---Edit---

Have you ever ridden in one, or raced one?...If not...leave your bias opinions at the door.

Ridden in one? Aye
Raced one? Aye
Got spanked in one? aye
Spanked someone in it? Aye
Does this make me like it or the owners? NAY

No one mentioned the owners....I mean come on..you saw how we were talkin about the owners before......

Originally posted by flylwsi
since i've never seen any srt4s around... hmm...
there's a video i saw of a srt4 with temp tags walking a wrx in it...

and the srt4 has more hp and quicker 1/4 times...

runs 14.2
whats a wrx run?

and the srt4 is rated at 215hp at the crank, but puts 220ish to the wheels and 250ish tq...

(per automobile magazine)

it's not just some girls car.

sorry.

and considering there aren't any mods yet available, you didn't race any modded ones.


LMAO. Right man, you really think a FWD car with 215HP at the crank puts down 250lbs/ft of torque? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I don't remmeber the last time a car could have more HP at the wheels than the crank. Even if there were no friction to the ground you still wouldn't put down the full 215. :eek7:

Go check your facts, man. :rolleyes:

I don't know..maybe if they have NOS brand Axles or something...:bigthumb: :loser:

Originally posted by TheSyndicate



LMAO. Right man, you really think a FWD car with 215HP at the crank puts down 250lbs/ft of torque? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I don't remmeber the last time a car could have more HP at the wheels than the crank. Even if there were no friction to the ground you still wouldn't put down the full 215. :eek7:

Go check your facts, man. :rolleyes:

Check your facts, SRT4's regularly dyno 220hp and 250 torque to the wheels. Just because they're RATED at 215 flywheel doesn't mean that's what they atcually make.

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


Check your facts, SRT4's regularly dyno 220hp and 250 torque to the wheels. Just because they're RATED at 215 flywheel doesn't mean that's what they atcually make.



I think the term "underrated" fits well here. Wait.. is that even spelled right? Oh well. It's crazy that the car industry is starting to underrate cars now!:rolleyes:

you guys are so far off the mark here.

this has been gone over so many times it really makes me sick.

and you're telling the wrong person to "check your facts".

i live by facts. you should check yours.

"rated" at 215 crank hp, but it somehow puts about 220 to the wheels in every magazine's tests...

"rated" at 245 ft/lbs of tq at the crank, but it somehow puts 250ish to the wheels in every magazine's test.s


do you know what the word underrated means?

do you know about the 60's muscle cars and their ratings on hp? which were regularly about 50-75 hp shy of what they really made to keep ins. co's happy?

or the skyline in japan with **cough** 280hp? right. independent testing shows about 300 or so to the wheels on a lot of gt-rs.

get your facts right?

hmm...


ej20...

you say you've got the sti trans, and a turbo that makes the same hp as an 18g at 400hp, but you want to swap for an sti trans and gt25 that'll push you to 400hp?

explain... i'm confused.

Fly, I know it's hard to sense sarcasm through mere words over the internet, but I was being sarcastic. I love sarcasm. I am sarcasm.

Originally posted by fatninja19




I think the term "underrated" fits well here. Wait.. is that even spelled right? Oh well. It's crazy that the car industry is starting to underrate cars now!:rolleyes:

Nah, Chrysler I know has been doing it since the 60s.

Was just being sarcastic, Poly. :smile:

Sarcasm is great but it doesnt work to well on line so lets not try it...And if you do put sarcasm in (). it will help i think.

On the average an SRT driver is gonna have alot more problems launching the car then a WRX driver. I mean FWD w/ 215 fwhp. Can you say wheel hop. Let alone if the driver can get the car to track straight. I've heard of the "dollar mod" which will bring the car into the mid 13's. some guy on LS1.com has one. I'm sure he will be willing to race a WRX driver that can race at California Speedway. Stock for stock it is faster then the WRX, not to mention that it's forged internals can handle alot of boost.

fatninja...

just to clarify, my post wasn't directed at you...

it was directed at the post you were talking about...

in regards to tracking straight...

it's interesting to note that the srt4 doesn't have a limited slip in it from what i remember... ( i may be wrong there)

but anyways...

Ladyluke, nah.. I think i'll just keep wiht my sarcasm. People who are used to me will understand, and the others that aren't can just think whatever.

2000z28, I've also heard many people having a hard time launching their WRX's... Well at least poeple who care about the transmission and such. My friend complains about bogging the launch a lot. Idunno.. guess they're just not pro's like me:wink: (now that was very very sarcastic)


fly, coooooool.

since i've never seen any srt4s around... hmm...
there's a video i saw of a srt4 with temp tags walking a wrx in it...

and the srt4 has more hp and quicker 1/4 times...

runs 14.2
whats a wrx run?

and the srt4 is rated at 215hp at the crank, but puts 220ish to the wheels and 250ish tq...

(per automobile magazine)

it's not just some girls car.

sorry.

and considering there aren't any mods yet available, you didn't race any modded ones.



my wrx runs 14 flat 227 at crank and puts out more hp and tq and thats on my bad days, i walk those cars all day

Ladyluke, nah.. I think i'll just keep wiht my sarcasm. People who are used to me will understand, and the others that aren't can just think whatever.

2000z28, I've also heard many people having a hard time launching their WRX's... Well at least poeple who care about the transmission and such. My friend complains about bogging the launch a lot. Idunno.. guess they're just not pro's like me:wink: (now that was very very sarcastic)


fly, coooooool.

i launch at 1500 when i know i can beat u and 4000 when i have second thoughts and i almost never mess up or blew my trans.

my wrx runs 14 flat 227 at crank and puts out more hp and tq and thats on my bad days, i walk those cars all day

Are you sure the SRT-4 drivers aren't sleeping while you race them ? I just got done reading another article in motortrend about the SRT-4 and they ran a 13.89 STOCK !!! It is harder to get a WRX to go a 14 flat than a SRT-4 because of the AWD. I'm sorry to break it to you but a SRT-4 will take you. You can deny that all you want but fact is the SRT-4 is faster than a WRX stock for stock. And by the way I like WRX's way better than SRT-4 but it is the way it is.

my wrx runs 14 flat 227 at crank and puts out more hp and tq and thats on my bad days, i walk those cars all day

04 SRT4's run mid 13's, and even an 03 will tear you up from a roll any day and from a standstill if you make one small mistake.

Wow...lot's of misinformation in this thread. I just bought a 2004 SRT-4 2 weeks ago. I looked at the WRX for a long time and test drove each car 2-3 times before I finally made my decision.

AWD is very cool IMO, but I couldn't justify the added expense considering I have an SUV for the occasional winter trip up the mountains anyways. On top of that, and speaking of the SRT Forums, there is a member in there who owns both a '02 WRX and an '03 SRT-4. Aside from aftermarket rims he hasn't done any significant modding to either cars. He loves them both but has said very matter-of-factly more than once that his Dodge is a little faster than his Subaru...from a roll and off the line.

I think the real debate right now is EVO vs. SRT-4. It sounds like the '03 SRT-4's may be a little slower than the EVO while the '04 SRT-4's may be a little quicker. Keep in mind we're talking about .1 and .2 seconds in a 1/4 mile...so it's gonna be a driver's race everytime anyhow.

I think the real debate right now is EVO vs. SRT-4. It sounds like the '03 SRT-4's may be a little slower than the EVO while the '04 SRT-4's may be a little quicker. Keep in mind we're talking about .1 and .2 seconds in a 1/4 mile...so it's gonna be a driver's race everytime anyhow.

:sly:

'03's are a lot slower, '04s are... still slower :lol:

i read a test about the two cars before, if i remember correctly it saids that the wrx barely beats the srt-4 in the 1/4, but after that the srt-4 just passes it easily.

:sly:

'03's are a lot slower, '04s are... still slower :lol:

I'd sure like to race one and see. Both cars dyno almost identical horsepower at the wheels, the EVO has AWD, and the SRT-4 has more torque. Like I said...it would be a driver's race. I belive EVO and SRT-4 owners could agree on that much.

I went to an event called Jap Fest. They were racing all sorts of very modified Japanesse cars. Let me put it this way, the only car there that impressed me were the EVOs.

The EVOs going around corners, were rock soild, while all the other cars (GTRs, RX-7s, WRXs, Supras, 300Zs, etc) all had body roll. I am not talking about just one or two EVOs ether. There must have been 12-15 of them. They all handled like that. Like I said, very impressed.

There was one there putting out over 500 to the wheels, with a very docile idle as well. So, they can be tuned for very good power.

My 2cents.

Alright just to clear some things up. No matter if 03 or 04 a SRT-4 is not gonna touch an EVO period. Just looking at the numbers out of Motortrend (which is in my opinion the best magazine) the EVO does 0-60 in 4.59 and the 1/4 mile in 13.08. Those are the actual numbers that they came up with and if anyone does not believe me read motortrend June 03. Now the numbers for the SRT-4 for 03 are 13.99 for the 1/4 mile and I'm not sure what the 0-60 was. Something like 5.6sec. The 04 was only slightly quicker and turned the 1/4 mile in 13.89.
I won't even go into handling because the EVO would make the SRT-4 cry. So much for those two cars.
As for the WRX being slightly faster through the 1/4 mile that is untrue. The WRX will do the 1/4 mile in 14.1 which is still slower than the SRT-4. The only place the WRX edges the out the SRT-4 in acceleration is 0-60, which takes the WRX 5.4 seconds.
I hope this cleared some things up and for any non-believers, this is all based on facts from a very respectable car magazine.