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Jelousy


Rich
03-16-2003, 02:39 PM
This probably belongs in Stress Release, but anyways......

Does anyone here consider themselves a really jelous person? I consider myself to be this way. Sometimes to the point that I wonder if there is something wrong with me. Sometimes its over really dumb things, like even as simple as a car cd-deck. Ill be jelous of someone elses deck, even though my deck is better in every way, but just because its not mine, ill be jelous. Same with cars. Same with alot of things.

Im jelous of other peoples material items, girlfriends, etc. EVERYTHING. Anybody else like this? How do you deal with it?

Lets discuss....

(I have my own ways of dealing with it but Ill wait to post up until I see where this topic is heading)

speediva
03-16-2003, 02:51 PM
I can be jealous at times. I guess it's just feminine nature when my b/f spends all his Spring Break with other female friends and doesn't spend more than 5 minutes with me on the PHONE. Sorry, venting.

But I do know where you're going with your idea. I have spent so much of my life trying to not so much impress, but fit in with other people. Being a not-so-rich or beautiful girl growing up in a town obsessed with Abercrombie and getting a car for their 16th has made me to be an envious person at the very least.

Now when I go home I want to flaunt how successful and happy I am. I want those people to know that I have what I want and I did it by myself. I guess it's more pride, now that I think about it, but I do still get jealous at how far I could be if I got as much of a hand-up as they are given...

jon@af
03-16-2003, 03:12 PM
I have found that jealousy leads to bad things. I myself would rather have good over bad, so when someone has something cool I ask them about it and we talk about things of that nature.

Diesel2NR
03-16-2003, 04:31 PM
I guess I'm with you all. I'm in hicksville (middle of nowhere), West Virginia, but a lot of people here are also obsessed with Abercrombie, Tommy, and all this name brand crap. I'm not the best looking person around here, so I find myself envious of my friends' girls and such. I guess the Camaro my dad let my drive and fix up was an ego boost, but now that it's totalled, I realize how jealous I can be. Of cars, money, and just about anything in particular. I have a pretty decent life. I don't wear big name clothes...I wear Wrangler Jeans and shirts from wherever I see something I like that's under $15, but I like it like that. Even though I like what I wear, I still find myself getting jealous over what other people are wearing, as expensive clothing brings status around here. I'm sure it does in other places though. I pay for my gas, insurance, and other things, even though I'm unemployed. I go shovel snow, cut grass, wash cars, or do whatever is needed to make it so that my parents aren't carrying me. How do I deal with my own jealousy?? By knowing that I'm working my ass off for what I have and that I have a good work ethic. That when I move out on my own, I'll be doing something constructive with that work ethic and helping someone somewhere. All the while, those rich punks will still be feeding off of their parents, wondering what the hell they are going to do, or standing in the welfare line waiting on a check.

Damien
03-16-2003, 04:40 PM
Jealousy??? What's that? NO, I've actually had such an experience recently. First time actually, but now it's not just jealousy. Let me fill you in.

There's this girl I love. Whole big ordeal. But she has a boyfriend, in Kentucky! Long distance. OH, she likes me too, heck we might as well be going out. But the guy first, buys the car I want, 98' Eclipse, he treats her terribly, and she's still with him. But now, I've learned the guy is a ricer!!! *bangs head on desk*

Yeah...I'm pissed. Why? Guess jealousy...weird experience, but fun.

jon@af
03-16-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Damien
Jealousy??? What's that? NO, I've actually had such an experience recently. First time actually, but now it's not just jealousy. Let me fill you in.

There's this girl I love. Whole big ordeal. But she has a boyfriend, in Kentucky! Long distance. OH, she likes me too, heck we might as well be going out. But the guy first, buys the car I want, 98' Eclipse, he treats her terribly, and she's still with him. But now, I've learned the guy is a ricer!!! *bangs head on desk*

Yeah...I'm pissed. Why? Guess jealousy...weird experience, but fun.

I dont think you're as so much jealous as you are pissed at the situation with the other guy. but that's my take.

tonioseven
03-16-2003, 05:31 PM
I was but not anymore because I'm thankful for what I have and for how far I've come in life. I don't need a bunch of expensive stuff; I shop from Old Navy's clearance rack and don't spend a lot on anything but my family and my model cars:devil: I have a car, place to sleep, and a hobby I enjoy :cool: . I'll never have a lot of money nor would I really want it but I'm content knowing I can live a good life. :coolguy: John, I respect you for your statement and the wisdom you possess because you seem to know more about life than a lot of people! plus you build cool models:bandit:

GTStang
03-16-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Damien
Jealousy??? What's that? NO, I've actually had such an experience recently. First time actually, but now it's not just jealousy. Let me fill you in.

There's this girl I love. Whole big ordeal. But she has a boyfriend, in Kentucky! Long distance. OH, she likes me too, heck we might as well be going out. But the guy first, buys the car I want, 98' Eclipse, he treats her terribly, and she's still with him. But now, I've learned the guy is a ricer!!! *bangs head on desk*

Yeah...I'm pissed. Why? Guess jealousy...weird experience, but fun.

You have what I like to call "Jessie's Girl Syndrome"

speediva
03-16-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by GTStang


You have what I like to call "Jessie's Girl Syndrome"

I think he's a lil too young to get that one. ;)

But even if he has "Jessie's Girl Syndrome" it could be that he really would treat her better... God knows I see enough of this every damn day. :o

GTStang
03-16-2003, 09:26 PM
I was just being coy but if you really want to get into it... It doesn't matter if he treats her bad cause bottom line is she is with him of her choice. She still choices to be with him even though our poor friend Damien is thier treating her like gold. Tis the fucked up way life is.

Damien
03-17-2003, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by saturntangerine


I think he's a lil too young to get that one. ;)

But even if he has "Jessie's Girl Syndrome" it could be that he really would treat her better... God knows I see enough of this every damn day. :o

Thanks peepes and I do get it. Anyhow, after rereading what I posted, it is more like I'm just pissed. Like I said, I don't really know what jealousy is. Never had it before. Guess I can't exactly type my feelings to make them understandable.

And she doesn't know a lot of what he does, but I can't say anything or, well, it'd look bad.

I'm not sure as to why I don't get jealous or seem to or something like that. What exactly is jealousy anyhow?

replicant_008
03-17-2003, 12:48 PM
Envy...

I was thinking when I was reading this thread how envy manifests in people. For instance, I'm not committed to anyone in particular at the moment and to some extent I'm envious of some of my friends who have found someone that feel are special enough to be committed to. A lot of them have found some boy or girl friends that are really nice folk and I can see why they are special to them.

On the other hand, as I was playing golf with a good friend - he commented he was envious of the lifestyle that I enjoyed. He was envious that Rep was single, enjoyed socialising, had quite a few attractive female friends, could go out to dinner or have a night out or go out for a drink whenever he chose and could take out different folk any night he chose.

I guess from his point of view that he was envious of what he couldn't have - which was the freedom to choose and that a lot of my female friends are attractive and interesting folk (okay I admit it I'm a guy and whilst personality is bloody important in sustaining my interest long-term with someone - initially it's the lines and panel work that get my attention) that I have met. On the other hand, I was envious of the stability of his relationship and what I perceived was something special between them.

I guess it's human nature to want we don't have - but I'd happily trade off some of my freedom to get closer in my relationship to one of the girls I've dated in the last while. However, at this stage we're both feeling our way through things and neither of us really want to jump in the deep end quite just yet.

It's kind of weird - the longest term relationships I've had involved the most protracted periods of that old-fashioned idea of 'courting' (ie spending time to win the attention and favour of someone that you are interested in) as opposed to the 'pick up and dunk' process.

Odd - maybe it's the investment in time, sweat and effort makes me want to commit more to a relationship - or that the ones I've chased the most have the most interesting and beautiful people I've met and being the human equivalent in appearance of an Urak Hai (well maybe not quite that bad) I have to work a lot harder and smarter.

Diesel2NR
03-17-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by tonioseven
John, I respect you for your statement and the wisdom you possess because you seem to know more about life than a lot of people! plus you build cool models:bandit:

Thanks, man. That actually means a lot to me. I'm not sure how welcome I am on the Car Modeling Forum after last night though, so I'm keeping a low profile until everyone realizes k_dog and I have worked things out.

Prelewd
03-26-2003, 01:02 PM
Damien, I can relate to your situation.. The weird thing though, is that even if she is dating other guys, or talks about them, it doesn't bother me. Is this normal? I don't think so because it's like nothing I've ever felt before. I care more about this girl than I care about anyone in my life, outside of my immediate family. Yet, I'm not really jealous of the guys she is with, or the time she spends with them. Maybe I am in denial, but I don't feel the jealousy like I have before. What is going on?

SentraGirl
05-29-2003, 08:10 PM
Well, I can say I am probably the most jealous person in the world. It's gotten me into a lot of trouble also, mainly in relationships. I trust my boyfriend and I know that he would never do anything like cheat or whatever because he knows if he did the consequences but it still doesnt change the fact that if I so much as hear him speak of another girl something in my head clicks into a jealous fit. I have learned not to act on these jealous crazy fits and just ignore my feelings but it's eating me up inside. I get jealous of everything, it's really bad sometimes. The only suggestion I can make that's helped me is before you say something or think jealously ... take a minute and look at the big picture and ask yourself if it's really worth getting jealous over. No matter how much I trust my mate, I will always get jealous and it's horrible:mad: He's almost dumped me like four times because of it. Sorry guys had to vent.:D

Damien
05-29-2003, 10:31 PM
I'm not jealous anymore!!! :D

Why? because...well...he's not a factor......

just felt the need to say that, sorry...I haven't whored in forever!

slave
06-11-2003, 12:15 AM
I dont get jealous. I dunno why exactly but I think it has to do with a good upbringing where I never "wanted" for anything, I was never even close to being spoiled but I was never left wanting. Another thing is I dont look at people by what they have, more by who they are, I hate hearing Im stuck up etc because I have designer clothes, or because I came from a big house etc, when my last gf was unemployed, had no car, and I loved every bit of her. And a hell of a lot of my mates have very little bu theyre great people. To stop jealousy I find most people just need to readjust how they evaluate people, by who they are or what they have. And as for the rich spoiled girls etc, the richest girl I know is my best friend and always will be, she's extremely sick (not looking for a sympathy thing here) so I guess its easy for me to disassociate money with happiness. Love and respect should replace your lust for others objects.

gigatron
06-11-2003, 12:19 AM
Hmm what a weird thread :/ But here goes.. no not really :/ If someone has like the newest computer I'll wana check it out and be like "hey cool!" or if i see someone with a cool supercar, no not jealous :/ I'd just appreciate the fact "hey look whacha got thats neat". I don't see why to get jealous, regardless if I can get or can't get something that someone else has. I don't see the purpose. It's like.. pointless stress maybe? Something like that o_O

Prelewd
06-11-2003, 04:35 AM
Yea, but... YOU WANT IT!! :crying:

Jealousy gives us goals to work hard for. Striving to do better than your fellow man is progress for all.

slave
06-11-2003, 05:20 PM
No, desire will give you something to work for. Jealousy is that angry little man inside of you that turns you into a whinging little bitch.

Prelewd
06-11-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by slave
No, desire will give you something to work for. Jealousy is that angry little man inside of you that turns you into a whinging little bitch.

Jealousy and desire go hand in hand. You are right though, jealousy is much more pathetic than desire. If you are jealous, you envy what someone has. I want things that nobody has.

Sean
06-11-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Prelewd

I want things that nobody has.

hmm, i think i am more of a person who wants what people like myself want/have. It's hard to describe...

Ah, say if a really good friend were to buy something that i really want (like a lamborghini) i wouldn't be that jealous because i would know if they deseverd it or not, and they wouldn't abuse it, or something like that. However if some bloody jackass who i hate got one, i would be mad because i would know they don't deserve it and that they would abuse it, and that i would want that car because they dont desrve it.

Hmm, still hard to explain

Prelewd
06-11-2003, 06:54 PM
Maybe your really good friend would let you drive it.............

slave
06-11-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Sean Quinn


hmm, i think i am more of a person who wants what people like myself want/have. It's hard to describe...

Ah, say if a really good friend were to buy something that i really want (like a lamborghini) i wouldn't be that jealous because i would know if they deseverd it or not, and they wouldn't abuse it, or something like that. However if some bloody jackass who i hate got one, i would be mad because i would know they don't deserve it and that they would abuse it, and that i would want that car because they dont desrve it.

Hmm, still hard to explain

Which in turn could lead to the perception you are capable of putting yourself above others due to objective reasons.

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