Power Steering Rack
panozracing
10-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Anyone know the mustang year/model or the ford part number for the power steering rack?
AIMidwest27
10-09-2008, 12:03 PM
panozracing
10-09-2008, 01:22 PM
http://www.jegs.com/i/AGR/012/715583/10002/-1
I just need the hard lines on the ford unit. Any ideas where I could get them? The ford dealer says they need the ford part # to get the lines.
On the AGR unit I see they have a 15:1 and a 20:1 are you sure ours is a 15:1?
I just need the hard lines on the ford unit. Any ideas where I could get them? The ford dealer says they need the ford part # to get the lines.
On the AGR unit I see they have a 15:1 and a 20:1 are you sure ours is a 15:1?
AIMidwest27
10-09-2008, 01:57 PM
I just need the hard lines on the ford unit. Any ideas where I could get them? The ford dealer says they need the ford part # to get the lines.
On the AGR unit I see they have a 15:1 and a 20:1 are you sure ours is a 15:1?
I run the 15:1 AGR rack on my AI car. If you just need lines for the ford rack on the Panoz, tell the Ford dealer it a rack from a 1996 - 1998 Mustang Cobra. Except for the internals, all the Mustang (and AGR racks) racks from 94-03 are the same. I blew a hard line at the track once (on a Sunday of course), went to the local Autozone and bought a rebuilt rack for a 94 GT ($80), stipped off the line I needed and made the afternoon race.
On the AGR unit I see they have a 15:1 and a 20:1 are you sure ours is a 15:1?
I run the 15:1 AGR rack on my AI car. If you just need lines for the ford rack on the Panoz, tell the Ford dealer it a rack from a 1996 - 1998 Mustang Cobra. Except for the internals, all the Mustang (and AGR racks) racks from 94-03 are the same. I blew a hard line at the track once (on a Sunday of course), went to the local Autozone and bought a rebuilt rack for a 94 GT ($80), stipped off the line I needed and made the afternoon race.
eric1h
10-31-2008, 02:06 PM
I run the 15:1 AGR rack on my AI car. If you just need lines for the ford rack on the Panoz, tell the Ford dealer it a rack from a 1996 - 1998 Mustang Cobra. Except for the internals, all the Mustang (and AGR racks) racks from 94-03 are the same. I blew a hard line at the track once (on a Sunday of course), went to the local Autozone and bought a rebuilt rack for a 94 GT ($80), stipped off the line I needed and made the afternoon race.
So anyone know if one year is better than another? I have some serious play in my rack and was going to buy another one to swap it out, found some remanufactured ones on ebay for $100 will the 94 GT rack be as good as what we have now?
So anyone know if one year is better than another? I have some serious play in my rack and was going to buy another one to swap it out, found some remanufactured ones on ebay for $100 will the 94 GT rack be as good as what we have now?
Cobra4B
10-31-2008, 05:20 PM
I've heard we have a Ford Motorsports rack... whatever that means. I know mines only like 1.75 turns lock to lock.
David Eastman
10-31-2008, 08:00 PM
I think the Cobra racks are 1.5 ratio were as a Mustang rack is 1.8 ratio. When you go to the parts store the Parts Man/Woman/whatever should be able to tell you what ratio any given rack is.
Brian the racks on our cars have a stop installed at the end of the tie rod that limits travel. When replacing the rack you need to install the old tie rods and spacers.
David
Brian the racks on our cars have a stop installed at the end of the tie rod that limits travel. When replacing the rack you need to install the old tie rods and spacers.
David
eric1h
11-01-2008, 10:11 PM
So, some things I've learned....
no one seems to have ever heard of a "ford motorsports" rack There is a ford racing rack and pinion, but we definitely do not have one of those.
All the V8 cars used a 15.7:1 ratio rack and the V6's(and ones equiped with standard steering option used an 18:1(i believe)
the 1998 svt cobra used a 14.7:1 rack
now some good news, possibly the 2003-2004 cobrac rack is a "special" close ratio rack My rack had some play in it so I ordered one of those, will let you know what i find when it comes in!
no one seems to have ever heard of a "ford motorsports" rack There is a ford racing rack and pinion, but we definitely do not have one of those.
All the V8 cars used a 15.7:1 ratio rack and the V6's(and ones equiped with standard steering option used an 18:1(i believe)
the 1998 svt cobra used a 14.7:1 rack
now some good news, possibly the 2003-2004 cobrac rack is a "special" close ratio rack My rack had some play in it so I ordered one of those, will let you know what i find when it comes in!
David Eastman
11-02-2008, 09:19 AM
Eric,
I replaced my rack a few weeks ago. Ordered one for a 94-95 mustang. Everything was the same except for the input shaft. I think it was D shaped and needed to be round. Backed up to a 93 model to get the correct one.I not sure what the later model imput shafts look like.
David
I replaced my rack a few weeks ago. Ordered one for a 94-95 mustang. Everything was the same except for the input shaft. I think it was D shaped and needed to be round. Backed up to a 93 model to get the correct one.I not sure what the later model imput shafts look like.
David
panozracing
11-02-2008, 11:52 AM
So, some things I've learned....
no one seems to have ever heard of a "ford motorsports" rack There is a ford racing rack and pinion, but we definitely do not have one of those.
All the V8 cars used a 15.7:1 ratio rack and the V6's(and ones equiped with standard steering option used an 18:1(i believe)
the 1998 svt cobra used a 14.7:1 rack
now some good news, possibly the 2003-2004 cobrac rack is a "special" close ratio rack My rack had some play in it so I ordered one of those, will let you know what i find when it comes in!
wirewheel has one more in stock......slightly used rack that he got when he bought the school cars inventory.....i bought one as a spare from him but have not used it (thats the number below). I also bought some replacement hard line tubes that feed the rack (qty.2) that I got from Ford and are slightly diff. but fit ok (number below).
Power steering rack – RP736R
Power Steering rack hard line tubes – F3LY*3A717*A Front small line $8.88
F3LY*3A714*A Longer line $11.10
no one seems to have ever heard of a "ford motorsports" rack There is a ford racing rack and pinion, but we definitely do not have one of those.
All the V8 cars used a 15.7:1 ratio rack and the V6's(and ones equiped with standard steering option used an 18:1(i believe)
the 1998 svt cobra used a 14.7:1 rack
now some good news, possibly the 2003-2004 cobrac rack is a "special" close ratio rack My rack had some play in it so I ordered one of those, will let you know what i find when it comes in!
wirewheel has one more in stock......slightly used rack that he got when he bought the school cars inventory.....i bought one as a spare from him but have not used it (thats the number below). I also bought some replacement hard line tubes that feed the rack (qty.2) that I got from Ford and are slightly diff. but fit ok (number below).
Power steering rack – RP736R
Power Steering rack hard line tubes – F3LY*3A717*A Front small line $8.88
F3LY*3A714*A Longer line $11.10
eric1h
11-02-2008, 03:10 PM
looks like the 94-95 uses the D shaped input shaft and the 96+ uses a round(what we need) the 96-04 uses the round shaft and apparently so does the 93..
info on the 2003 cobra rack
"The SVT Cobra's rack-and-pinion steering system gets a new, low-lash intermediate shaft in 2003, and a higher rate steering gear bushing. These changes improve steering feel by helping reduce play in the system."
So hopefully it works out!
info on the 2003 cobra rack
"The SVT Cobra's rack-and-pinion steering system gets a new, low-lash intermediate shaft in 2003, and a higher rate steering gear bushing. These changes improve steering feel by helping reduce play in the system."
So hopefully it works out!
eric1h
11-18-2008, 03:50 PM
Ok, so update AGAIN, I got the 04 Cobra rack installed, I did have to buy a new UV joint for the input steering shaft. The 94+ Mustangs use the "94+ V shaft, also known as the pyramid shaft"
but now my steering is like BUTTER, no play, and smooth as glass, but man what a PITA the rack was to remove though!
but now my steering is like BUTTER, no play, and smooth as glass, but man what a PITA the rack was to remove though!
AIMidwest27
11-18-2008, 07:56 PM
Ok, so update AGAIN, I got the 04 Cobra rack installed, I did have to buy a new UV joint for the input steering shaft. The 94+ Mustangs use the "94+ V shaft, also known as the pyramid shaft"
but now my steering is like BUTTER, no play, and smooth as glass, but man what a PITA the rack was to remove though!
Could you please post part numbers while they are still fresh ?
but now my steering is like BUTTER, no play, and smooth as glass, but man what a PITA the rack was to remove though!
Could you please post part numbers while they are still fresh ?
eric1h
11-20-2008, 10:36 AM
The PN# for the rack i used was a SPR-ZM 2004 Cobra Mustang rack, the UV joint was a Borgeson 114955 - 3/4 DD x 3/4 V it is stainless and very high quality.
Also, I noted on Devins car, he has what looks like a stock mustang steering shaft that does NOT have interchangeble UV joints, so check yours before you order
Also, I noted on Devins car, he has what looks like a stock mustang steering shaft that does NOT have interchangeble UV joints, so check yours before you order
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