is it a Judge

I am looking at a 69 GTO that is being represented as a Judge and don't know how to tell. The vin #242379b117417 The cowl tag reads:
ST 69 24237 Bal 517369 bdy
TR 258 65 B PNT
10 B B 035235
Any help on this would be great as the is no build sheet to help Thanks

Larry,

You can't tell from the VIN. Send the VIN to Pontiac Historic Services, along with $40 (I think) and they'll send you a copy of the build sheet.

One quick way to tell if it's a clone, is to open the trunk. If the springs will support the weight of the trunk lid with the wing installed, chances are good it IS a Judge. If not, it's either had the springs replaced with GTO springs, or it is a clone. The genuine "Judge" springs are pretty scarce.

The PHS method is the most secure, and I DO advise it, as there are too many clones out there today. You can do a quick "google" on Pontiac Historic Services to find them.

Pontiac always stuck a copy of the build sheet under the rear seat...

Jim

Going by the vin is the only way to go and you can find this on the internet by putting in "69 Pontiac GTO" in the search engines sites.