Is it possible to put the R34 engine in a Skyline V35?
deadmaninc
03-13-2003, 07:24 PM
I want to know if it is possible to have the R34 engine or even then R33 engine in the new Skyline V35? Also does anyone have specs on the V35 what is the major differneces compared to the American version the Infiniti?
Assasin11-17
03-15-2003, 08:17 PM
The question should be why would you want to?
deadmaninc
03-16-2003, 12:17 AM
Why because it has more power and it is faster.
Assasin11-17
03-16-2003, 02:12 AM
True the rb26 is a strong engine and the turbos add power. That is a given. Have you read any reviews on the G35 or Skyline 3.5 Coupe? I think you should leave the new skylines alone until further notice. Besides there are other cars out there that you can go mad scientist on and would turn out tons cooler.
deadmaninc
03-16-2003, 02:18 PM
I have the new 2003.5 G35 sedan. Motor Trend said the only problem they saw was the 280hp was not offered in the sedan. So why is it not a good idea?
VQuick
03-16-2003, 03:16 PM
Putting the RB into a G35 is a bad idea because...
First, it probably won't fit. The RB inline-6 is nearly twice as long as the VQ V6. It's very doubtful Nissan designed the V35 chassis with that much extra room in the engine bay. On top of that, you would still have to take into consideration how you are going to get the Getrag 6-speed manual tranny into an automatic car.
Second, if the Rb will even fit, the swap is probably illegal. In most states, you must swap an engine of the same model year or newer. The GT-R stopped production in '01, I believe. The G35 wasn't available until '02. Emissions compliance is another issue. The Rb won't even pass in Japan soon, so it would need some modifications just to pass in the US.
Third, even if the engine would fit and the swap were legal, you'd destroy the G35's handling characteristics. It'd be a completely different car.
If you want more power from your G35, wait for Greddy's 350Z turbo kit.
First, it probably won't fit. The RB inline-6 is nearly twice as long as the VQ V6. It's very doubtful Nissan designed the V35 chassis with that much extra room in the engine bay. On top of that, you would still have to take into consideration how you are going to get the Getrag 6-speed manual tranny into an automatic car.
Second, if the Rb will even fit, the swap is probably illegal. In most states, you must swap an engine of the same model year or newer. The GT-R stopped production in '01, I believe. The G35 wasn't available until '02. Emissions compliance is another issue. The Rb won't even pass in Japan soon, so it would need some modifications just to pass in the US.
Third, even if the engine would fit and the swap were legal, you'd destroy the G35's handling characteristics. It'd be a completely different car.
If you want more power from your G35, wait for Greddy's 350Z turbo kit.
Evomaniac
03-17-2003, 06:29 PM
when dealing with engine's anything is possible it just takes a lot of time and A lottttt of money literally! you can make a engine fit in any car even if the tranny is to short or long or if there are any wiring engine problem's, remember there's something called tubed framed chassis car's nowaday's if you don't know do some research on a search engine, ok buddy.:D
Assasin11-17
03-18-2003, 03:29 AM
You can always put a couple of couple of JATO rockets on a V.W. Bug, but that doesn't mean it is the smart thing to do. Sure it's one hell of a two second ride, you just can't tell anyone about it when its over........... :bandit:
flylwsi
03-22-2003, 11:16 AM
when dealing with engine's anything is possible it just takes a lot of time and A lottttt of money literally! you can make a engine fit in any car even if the tranny is to short or long or if there are any wiring engine problem's, remember there's something called tubed framed chassis car's nowaday's if you don't know do some research on a search engine, ok buddy.
what's your point exactly?
anything can be done with money. wow.
and why the "i know everything attitude" i'm sure we all know what tube frame cars are, and no one here is planning on one.
the real answer here is no. if you want your car to be street legal, no it won't work. sorry.
swaps have to be same year or newer motor. and as stated, the emissions problem is huge there.
also, the v35, which is the new skyline, should be available with a tt 400hp motor soon, and that would beat out an rb anyways. new technology is nice.
what's your point exactly?
anything can be done with money. wow.
and why the "i know everything attitude" i'm sure we all know what tube frame cars are, and no one here is planning on one.
the real answer here is no. if you want your car to be street legal, no it won't work. sorry.
swaps have to be same year or newer motor. and as stated, the emissions problem is huge there.
also, the v35, which is the new skyline, should be available with a tt 400hp motor soon, and that would beat out an rb anyways. new technology is nice.
Evomaniac
03-24-2003, 02:37 PM
:mad: how dare you insult me and the holy rb series engine, have you no dignity, notice that I am very sarcastic but hey as they say live life to the fullest, hehe. :flipa: ;) who is that, BATAM "POW", oh S#@$ i meant badman, or batram whatever you call that so called "superhero" with no power's except "human muscle" :eek: , like if we don't got em, remember testicular fortitude is the power within, notice my sack of s#$% that's called "wisdom", also as you reply to this post I made be sure to first say, what the f@#$?
hehe
hehe
Evomaniac
03-24-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
also, the v35, which is the new skyline, should be available with a tt 400hp motor soon, and that would beat out an rb anyways. new technology is nice.
I suggest you remove that skyline as your signature since i see you have no respect for rb engine's :D , tssk. tssk. tt;) technology my ass :silly2: , like if i see people pulling 500 hp from a v-6 with internal's bone stock anytime time soon :rolleyes: , but i must say i would like a ride in that upcoming r-35 v-6, technology doesn't not mean a thing to me when you refer to a skyline, phooey! :D
also, the v35, which is the new skyline, should be available with a tt 400hp motor soon, and that would beat out an rb anyways. new technology is nice.
I suggest you remove that skyline as your signature since i see you have no respect for rb engine's :D , tssk. tssk. tt;) technology my ass :silly2: , like if i see people pulling 500 hp from a v-6 with internal's bone stock anytime time soon :rolleyes: , but i must say i would like a ride in that upcoming r-35 v-6, technology doesn't not mean a thing to me when you refer to a skyline, phooey! :D
flylwsi
03-24-2003, 04:02 PM
um, f off?
drugs and computers don't mix.
technology doesn't mean anything in regards to an rb?
right.
drugs and computers don't mix.
technology doesn't mean anything in regards to an rb?
right.
flylwsi
03-24-2003, 04:03 PM
and yeah, apparently technology meant something to nissan. since they stepped it up.
please don't tell me what i do and don't respect.
i respect the skyline. i don't worship it.
and as of right now, you've given me no reason to respect you.
please don't tell me what i do and don't respect.
i respect the skyline. i don't worship it.
and as of right now, you've given me no reason to respect you.
VQuick
03-24-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Evomaniac
like if i see people pulling 500 hp from a v-6 with internal's bone stock anytime time soon :rolleyes:
Um, you know Nissan got nearly 540hp out of the turbo VQ30 used in their JGTC R34 GT-R, right?
Top Secret has already made 570hp with a VQ35 turbo...in another R34.
Soon enough?:rolleyes:
There are also two Maxima owners with street driven cars running stock internals: One has with a homegrown turbo kit, and the other has a Stillen Vortech V1 supercharger and a 35-shot of nitrous. Both are making 429fwhp from their VQ30DEs. If you factor in a modest 15% drivetrain loss, they are producing is nearly 500 crank hp. The owner with the supercharger and nitrous has run an 11.9 in the 1/4 mile. The owner with the turbo kit made his 429fwhp with a stock transmission in the high elevation of Colorado.
like if i see people pulling 500 hp from a v-6 with internal's bone stock anytime time soon :rolleyes:
Um, you know Nissan got nearly 540hp out of the turbo VQ30 used in their JGTC R34 GT-R, right?
Top Secret has already made 570hp with a VQ35 turbo...in another R34.
Soon enough?:rolleyes:
There are also two Maxima owners with street driven cars running stock internals: One has with a homegrown turbo kit, and the other has a Stillen Vortech V1 supercharger and a 35-shot of nitrous. Both are making 429fwhp from their VQ30DEs. If you factor in a modest 15% drivetrain loss, they are producing is nearly 500 crank hp. The owner with the supercharger and nitrous has run an 11.9 in the 1/4 mile. The owner with the turbo kit made his 429fwhp with a stock transmission in the high elevation of Colorado.
flylwsi
03-24-2003, 04:34 PM
and what about the motor in the 350z's nismo made?
hmm... lotsa power in that too... they've got em making 450+
anything else?
hmm... lotsa power in that too... they've got em making 450+
anything else?
VQuick
03-25-2003, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by flylwsi
and what about the motor in the 350z's nismo made?
hmm... lotsa power in that too... they've got em making 450+
anything else?
You forgot to mention that is was a normally aspirated VQ35, which makes it even more incredible.:D The VQ30 can make 410hp NA. Just the fact that the VQ can be so versatile makes it better than the RB.
and what about the motor in the 350z's nismo made?
hmm... lotsa power in that too... they've got em making 450+
anything else?
You forgot to mention that is was a normally aspirated VQ35, which makes it even more incredible.:D The VQ30 can make 410hp NA. Just the fact that the VQ can be so versatile makes it better than the RB.
flylwsi
03-25-2003, 10:48 AM
true that...
that' makes my point even more valid...
500hp from a v6 w/ stock internals isn't that hard really...
and yeah, the nismo n/a motor is built up, but if you take that motor and build it right, (the stock vq35), it wouldn't be hard to get 500 on stock internals.
that' makes my point even more valid...
500hp from a v6 w/ stock internals isn't that hard really...
and yeah, the nismo n/a motor is built up, but if you take that motor and build it right, (the stock vq35), it wouldn't be hard to get 500 on stock internals.
VQuick
03-25-2003, 12:34 PM
Yeah, if you can get nearly 500hp(@ the flywheel) with a VQ30, hitting that goal with a VQ35 will be much easier.
Evomaniac
03-28-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
drugs and computers don't mix.
ahah! so now you're calling me a drug user, eh?
so what now, gonna tell me caffeine is a drug, just because i'm high strung doesn't mean you should brag about okay sonny.;)
no need to feel insulted i was playing but if you're gonna take it personal :licker: then kiss my third nipple (not that I have one,hehe) and my bald spot, okay buddy!
-Dave
p.s. I drink de-caf okay buddy, hehe:D
drugs and computers don't mix.
ahah! so now you're calling me a drug user, eh?
so what now, gonna tell me caffeine is a drug, just because i'm high strung doesn't mean you should brag about okay sonny.;)
no need to feel insulted i was playing but if you're gonna take it personal :licker: then kiss my third nipple (not that I have one,hehe) and my bald spot, okay buddy!
-Dave
p.s. I drink de-caf okay buddy, hehe:D
poweraddict
05-13-2003, 06:10 AM
The motor will fit.
deadmaninc
05-21-2003, 02:05 AM
I read somewhere that the Vq35 is close to it max performance, that is till some one can make a mod that i will make it work better.
nissan350ztt
06-13-2003, 02:37 AM
The engine won't fit, the V6 is stuffed in there as it is. The Nismo engine doesn't have stock internals, nor FI.
poweraddict
06-26-2003, 08:34 AM
What won't fit?
VQuick
06-26-2003, 11:07 AM
The RB motor will fit into the FM platform with a lot of work. There is an awd, RB-powered 350Z being prepared for the Pikes Peak Hillclimb this year.
Of course, to answer the original question, the swap cannot be done for legal reasons. It is illegal to swap an engine into a car if the engine is older than the car.
Of course, to answer the original question, the swap cannot be done for legal reasons. It is illegal to swap an engine into a car if the engine is older than the car.
Lordrandall
06-26-2003, 04:50 PM
poweraddict
06-27-2003, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by VQuick
The RB motor will fit into the FM platform with a lot of work. There is an awd, RB-powered 350Z being prepared for the Pikes Peak Hillclimb this year.
Of course, to answer the original question, the swap cannot be done for legal reasons. It is illegal to swap an engine into a car if the engine is older than the car.
Its illegal to drive without cats, so who cares? Its illegal to speed too, so why would anyone want to do it...
The RB motor will fit into the FM platform with a lot of work. There is an awd, RB-powered 350Z being prepared for the Pikes Peak Hillclimb this year.
Of course, to answer the original question, the swap cannot be done for legal reasons. It is illegal to swap an engine into a car if the engine is older than the car.
Its illegal to drive without cats, so who cares? Its illegal to speed too, so why would anyone want to do it...
VQuick
06-28-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by poweraddict
Its illegal to drive without cats, so who cares? Its illegal to speed too, so why would anyone want to do it...
Speeding and driving without catalytic converters carry penalties that aren't as stiff as for an illegal engine.
It is also easier to get by with the two lesser offenses. If you want to speed, get a radar detector. If you want to run without cats, put 'em back on when it's time to get an emmissions test. What are you going to do about an illegal swap? Change the engine for a few hours?:rolleyes:
Its illegal to drive without cats, so who cares? Its illegal to speed too, so why would anyone want to do it...
Speeding and driving without catalytic converters carry penalties that aren't as stiff as for an illegal engine.
It is also easier to get by with the two lesser offenses. If you want to speed, get a radar detector. If you want to run without cats, put 'em back on when it's time to get an emmissions test. What are you going to do about an illegal swap? Change the engine for a few hours?:rolleyes:
XspudX
07-14-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Lordrandall
It's RWD guys, sorry. Here are some pics.
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett01.jpg
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett02.jpg
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett03.jpg
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett04.jpg
I got to see these in person when they were here for the PPHC. Under chassis was amzing and the crews were very cool to talk with.
It's RWD guys, sorry. Here are some pics.
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett01.jpg
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett02.jpg
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett03.jpg
http://lordrandall.maximaclubca.com/Cars/Z33_rb26dett04.jpg
I got to see these in person when they were here for the PPHC. Under chassis was amzing and the crews were very cool to talk with.
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