91 Camaro dies when hot
BurninTires91
09-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Greetings,
I have a 1991 Camaro with a 305 V8 5.0L that will not run when hot (dies and then will not start). When cold, it starts and runs perfectly (until the fan kicks on?).
Have seached most of the postings looking for clues and so far I have replaced the Fuel filter, Fuel relays, and the temperature sensor, but no change. I checked the codes on the computer, and all 12’s. :banghead:
I have the Fuel injectors, but I’m reluctant to put them because they cost $200 each. I am running out of ideas and money lol.
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks,
I have a 1991 Camaro with a 305 V8 5.0L that will not run when hot (dies and then will not start). When cold, it starts and runs perfectly (until the fan kicks on?).
Have seached most of the postings looking for clues and so far I have replaced the Fuel filter, Fuel relays, and the temperature sensor, but no change. I checked the codes on the computer, and all 12’s. :banghead:
I have the Fuel injectors, but I’m reluctant to put them because they cost $200 each. I am running out of ideas and money lol.
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks,
Morley
09-05-2008, 12:25 AM
Pull the ignition module and take it to an auto parts store and have them test it. If it fails, replace it with only an AC Delco unit, the others are junk. Don't forget to use the special thermal grease on the metal side that sits against the distributor. (it comes with the module).
If the module checks good, ohm out the injectors. They should be 15-17 ohms and there should be no more than .5 ohms difference between any of them. Check them cold and hot.
$200 EACH???? Where did you get them and are they made of gold?? Is your Camaro TBI or TPI?
If the module checks good, ohm out the injectors. They should be 15-17 ohms and there should be no more than .5 ohms difference between any of them. Check them cold and hot.
$200 EACH???? Where did you get them and are they made of gold?? Is your Camaro TBI or TPI?
Scrapper
09-05-2008, 01:16 AM
you may want to nhave catletic converter check also and egr valve.or its way out of time.coil can also be getting hot.
scrapper1
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Scrapper
09-05-2008, 01:21 AM
you may want to nhave catletic converter check also and egr valve.or its way out of time.coil or coil pack can also be getting hot unless you got hei distributer the coil in top could be getting hot or wore out. how many miles you got on this camaro?
scrapper1dang have cat checked.
scrapper1dang have cat checked.
BurninTires91
09-06-2008, 09:37 AM
Thank you for the suggestions. I’ll check into them this weekend.
The car is TBI. I got rebuilt injectors from Napa; they were actually $180 each - I just rounded up.
As soon as the fan comes on, it dies. I was going to unplug it to see if it still dies when it gets up to operating temperature (thinking there was a short or something in the cooling fan circuit) but now you’ve got me thinking about the Ignition Module and an ignition problem. I’ll check for spark when it’s in the “no-run” condition.
Thanks again,
I will keep you posted.
The car is TBI. I got rebuilt injectors from Napa; they were actually $180 each - I just rounded up.
As soon as the fan comes on, it dies. I was going to unplug it to see if it still dies when it gets up to operating temperature (thinking there was a short or something in the cooling fan circuit) but now you’ve got me thinking about the Ignition Module and an ignition problem. I’ll check for spark when it’s in the “no-run” condition.
Thanks again,
I will keep you posted.
Morley
09-06-2008, 11:07 AM
[The car is TBI. I got rebuilt injectors from Napa; they were actually $180 each - I just rounded up
If you can, take them back and get your money back. That price is just insane. Try these http://www.injectorwhse.com/servlet/the-13815/Fuel-Injector%2C-1982-dsh-83-CHEVROLET/Detail http://www.injectorwhse.com/servlet/the-13940/Fuel-Injector%2C-1982-dsh-83-CHEVROLET/Detail
At just $50 each, you'll save a ton of money.
If you can, take them back and get your money back. That price is just insane. Try these http://www.injectorwhse.com/servlet/the-13815/Fuel-Injector%2C-1982-dsh-83-CHEVROLET/Detail http://www.injectorwhse.com/servlet/the-13940/Fuel-Injector%2C-1982-dsh-83-CHEVROLET/Detail
At just $50 each, you'll save a ton of money.
BurninTires91
09-06-2008, 11:24 AM
The ones you listed sure look the same, but the website said they're for 81-83. Does that make a difference? I dont see anything listed for a 91.
Thanks for the heads up. You saved me like $300.
Thanks for the heads up. You saved me like $300.
Morley
09-06-2008, 03:14 PM
According to this www.carburetion.com/pdfs/injectors_tbi.pdf your engine used the same injectors as the old Crossfire injection system, which was just a dual TBI unit.
I would call them and tell them what you have and what you are looking for.
I would call them and tell them what you have and what you are looking for.
mannasugar
09-14-2008, 12:58 PM
If you are concerned with exhaust flow circulation (Catalytic converter) it can be checked with a vacuum gauge, hook vacuum gauge to manifold vacuum, increase rpm to 2000rpm, maintain this speed, note vacuum gauge reading. A gradually decreasing vacuum reading may indicate a restricted exhaust system.
good luck
D.J.
good luck
D.J.
ShadeTreeJack
09-26-2008, 11:50 PM
I have seen Crank Sensors do this. What have you found out?
Morley
09-27-2008, 11:26 AM
I have seen Crank Sensors do this. What have you found out?
No such thing on his car..or any 3rd gen for that matter.
No such thing on his car..or any 3rd gen for that matter.
ShadeTreeJack
09-27-2008, 06:12 PM
I have a 1991 with a 3.1 L. The engine idles well but it stalls when i give it the throttle quickly. I can ease the throttle up slowly. There was another thread in AF with the same in 2005, I think it was a lumina. It went on and on - ended up on someone else's issue - but I never saw the fix. Any ideas?
btw: I have replaced th eTPS. the TPS, IAC and MAP all have th ecorrfect voltage when HOT. I have searched for but cannot find any intake leaks. the fuek injectors recently checked out OK and i replaced the EGR ($185 btw) because th eold one fell apart.
btw: I have replaced th eTPS. the TPS, IAC and MAP all have th ecorrfect voltage when HOT. I have searched for but cannot find any intake leaks. the fuek injectors recently checked out OK and i replaced the EGR ($185 btw) because th eold one fell apart.
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