Clunking noise when placed in reverse
venturenot
08-18-2008, 08:09 PM
1998 Chevy venture, 130,000 miles: I get an occasional, single, loud clunk from the front center of the car when placed in reverse. Often this will happen when I am on a grade reversing up the hill. Occasionally I will hear it when on level ground. Any ideas?
jjmmcs
08-18-2008, 08:18 PM
A lot of times when you have a bad ball joint or strut up hill or reverse driving puts a different strain on it and will bring out the noise. I would say check these.
JoulesWinfield
08-29-2008, 09:51 PM
I would also check motor mounts.
venturenot
09-02-2008, 08:14 PM
Thanks for the help. I will take on the problem next week. In the meantime I found this technical bulletin that I thought was interesting. It describes my situation perfectly, but it does not include minivans.
A/T - Clunk When Shifting From PARK/DRIVE/REVERSE
Bulletin No.: 99-04-20-002D
Date: June 08, 2006
INFORMATION
Subject:
Information on Driveline Clunk Noise When Shifting Between PARK and DRIVE, PARK and REVERSE or DRIVE and REVERSE Models:
2007 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2007 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
2005-2007 Saab 9-7X Supercede:
This bulletin is being revised to add models and model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-20-002C (Section 04 - Driveline/Axle).
Important: The condition described in this bulletin should not be confused with the following previous bulletins: ^ Info - Discontinue Flushing and Replacing Transfer Case Fluid Due to Bump/Clunk Concern (Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-21-004A or newer). ^ Clunk, Bump or Squawk when Vehicle Comes to Complete Stop or Accelerating from Complete Stop or Accelerating from Complete Stop (Replace Rear Drive Shaft Nickel-Plated Slip Yoke) (Corporate Bulletin Number 01-04-17-004B or newer). Some owners of vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions may comment that the vehicle exhibits a clunk noise when shifting between Park and Drive, Park and Reverse, or Drive and Reverse. Similarly, owners of vehicles equipped with automatic or manual transmissions may comment that the vehicle exhibits a clunk noise while driving when the accelerator is quickly depressed and then released.
Whenever there are two or more gears interacting with one another, there must be a certain amount of clearance between those gears in order for the gears to operate properly. This clearance or freeplay (also known as lash) can translate into a clunk noise whenever the gear is loaded and unloaded quickly, or whenever the direction of rotation is reversed. The more gears you have in a system, the more freeplay the total system will have.
The clunk noise that owners sometimes hear may be the result of a buildup of freeplay (lash) between the components in the driveline.
For example, the potential for a driveline clunk would be greater in a 4-wheel drive or all-wheel drive vehicle than a 2-wheel drive vehicle. This is because in addition to the freeplay from the rear axle gears, the universal joints, and the transmission (common to both vehicles), the 4-wheel drive transfer case gears (and their associated clearances) add additional freeplay to the driveline.
In service, dealers are discouraged from attempting to repair driveline clunk conditions for the following reasons:
^ Comments of driveline clunk are almost never the result of one individual component with excessive lash, but rather the result of the added affect of freeplay (or lash) present in all of the driveline components. ^ Because all of the components in the driveline have a certain amount of lash by design, changing driveline components may not result in a satisfactory lash reduction. While some owners may find the clunk noise objectionable, this will not adversely affect durability or performance.
For additional diagnostic information, refer to the appropriate Service Information.
A/T - Clunk When Shifting From PARK/DRIVE/REVERSE
Bulletin No.: 99-04-20-002D
Date: June 08, 2006
INFORMATION
Subject:
Information on Driveline Clunk Noise When Shifting Between PARK and DRIVE, PARK and REVERSE or DRIVE and REVERSE Models:
2007 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2007 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
2005-2007 Saab 9-7X Supercede:
This bulletin is being revised to add models and model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-20-002C (Section 04 - Driveline/Axle).
Important: The condition described in this bulletin should not be confused with the following previous bulletins: ^ Info - Discontinue Flushing and Replacing Transfer Case Fluid Due to Bump/Clunk Concern (Corporate Bulletin Number 99-04-21-004A or newer). ^ Clunk, Bump or Squawk when Vehicle Comes to Complete Stop or Accelerating from Complete Stop or Accelerating from Complete Stop (Replace Rear Drive Shaft Nickel-Plated Slip Yoke) (Corporate Bulletin Number 01-04-17-004B or newer). Some owners of vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions may comment that the vehicle exhibits a clunk noise when shifting between Park and Drive, Park and Reverse, or Drive and Reverse. Similarly, owners of vehicles equipped with automatic or manual transmissions may comment that the vehicle exhibits a clunk noise while driving when the accelerator is quickly depressed and then released.
Whenever there are two or more gears interacting with one another, there must be a certain amount of clearance between those gears in order for the gears to operate properly. This clearance or freeplay (also known as lash) can translate into a clunk noise whenever the gear is loaded and unloaded quickly, or whenever the direction of rotation is reversed. The more gears you have in a system, the more freeplay the total system will have.
The clunk noise that owners sometimes hear may be the result of a buildup of freeplay (lash) between the components in the driveline.
For example, the potential for a driveline clunk would be greater in a 4-wheel drive or all-wheel drive vehicle than a 2-wheel drive vehicle. This is because in addition to the freeplay from the rear axle gears, the universal joints, and the transmission (common to both vehicles), the 4-wheel drive transfer case gears (and their associated clearances) add additional freeplay to the driveline.
In service, dealers are discouraged from attempting to repair driveline clunk conditions for the following reasons:
^ Comments of driveline clunk are almost never the result of one individual component with excessive lash, but rather the result of the added affect of freeplay (or lash) present in all of the driveline components. ^ Because all of the components in the driveline have a certain amount of lash by design, changing driveline components may not result in a satisfactory lash reduction. While some owners may find the clunk noise objectionable, this will not adversely affect durability or performance.
For additional diagnostic information, refer to the appropriate Service Information.
venturenot
09-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Thanks all, it was the motor mounts.
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