Help With Paint Stripping?
nicecar
07-16-2008, 05:41 AM
I started an enzo a while ago (dont worry, its only the revell kit) and i got a new airbrush, so i thought i'd test it out.
Turns out i hadnt figured out how to use it, and the paint wasnt coming out much, so i fiddled with it, and ended up with paint runs all over my beloved enzo body..
A year or so later, i come back to it, do a lot of sanding then had paint it.
The hand painting isnt that bad, but you can still see all the runs and things from the previous paint jobs.
Just a quick one then, will i be ok to use brake cleaner to strip the paint back to the original body? If so how do i apply it?
Chris.
Turns out i hadnt figured out how to use it, and the paint wasnt coming out much, so i fiddled with it, and ended up with paint runs all over my beloved enzo body..
A year or so later, i come back to it, do a lot of sanding then had paint it.
The hand painting isnt that bad, but you can still see all the runs and things from the previous paint jobs.
Just a quick one then, will i be ok to use brake cleaner to strip the paint back to the original body? If so how do i apply it?
Chris.
andybmw7272
07-16-2008, 06:08 AM
I soak things i mess up in Purple Power (a heavy duty cleaner I got at WalMart) and it works well. Just fill up a bowl or container where the whole piece can be submerged and soak it for a few hours.
Andy
Andy
MPWR
07-16-2008, 07:36 AM
No, brake cleaner will destroy the plastic. No not use brake fluid either.
What did you use for paint....?
What did you use for paint....?
nicecar
07-16-2008, 12:43 PM
Its humbrol enamel =/
And i live in the uk so its hard to come by american products.
And i live in the uk so its hard to come by american products.
jano11
07-16-2008, 12:57 PM
Isopropyl alcohol will do the job, it won't harm the plastic, and you will find it in the UK for sure.
Try to get the higher grade (99%) one, the lower grade isopropyl alcohol will also do the job but it will take longer.
Try to get the higher grade (99%) one, the lower grade isopropyl alcohol will also do the job but it will take longer.
nicecar
07-16-2008, 01:05 PM
So should i get an aerosol spray, or a few litres of the solvent in a tin?
freakray
07-16-2008, 01:11 PM
So should i get an aerosol spray, or a few litres of the solvent in a tin?
Go to Boots and look in the aisle with things like Savlon and Dettol, if you can't find it ask. 99% isopropyl alcohol usually comes in a plastic bottle.
Go to Boots and look in the aisle with things like Savlon and Dettol, if you can't find it ask. 99% isopropyl alcohol usually comes in a plastic bottle.
nicecar
07-16-2008, 01:15 PM
Go to Boots and look in the aisle with things like Savlon and Dettol, if you can't find it ask. 99% isopropyl alcohol usually comes in a plastic bottle.
Thanks :D
Maybe i can pick up some savlon, see if that will fix my modeling skills :screwy: :banghead:
Now to see how this is gonna turn out. :rolleyes:
Thanks :D
Maybe i can pick up some savlon, see if that will fix my modeling skills :screwy: :banghead:
Now to see how this is gonna turn out. :rolleyes:
stevenoble
07-16-2008, 02:33 PM
If you have a Maplins electronics store near to you you can buy it there.It's where I got mine from and I'm in the UK.Buy the stuff in the metal container not the aerosol spray.Put the whole litre into a plastic tupperware type container with an airtight sealed lid and leave the body shell overnight in the 'bath' with the lid sealed.Next day remove and scrub with an old toothbrush and the paint will come off easily especially Humbrol enamel.Some other types of paint take a couple of soaks.But it always comes off in the end.Don't throw away the old alcohol, leave it in the container with the lid sealed and you can use it over and over again for future disasters!!! I have a bath on stand by for when I screw things up!!!!!
ZoomZoomMX-5
07-16-2008, 02:58 PM
Are you guys certain that alcohol will strip enamel?
That's one I haven't heard of myself, and the subject gets brought up a lot on forums, as model car guys seem utterly fascinated with stripping paint (I avoid it like the plague). I know that any lye-based cleaner, such as Easy Off oven cleaner, works wonders on hobby enamels. The purple cleaners/degreasers also work.
The reason I ask is that enamel and lacquer have different characteristics; lacquer can be "rejuvenated"; if it dries out in a bottle you can add thinner and it will be just fine again. Once enamel has dried, nothing will make it good again. I would think it would be impervious to alcohol...but haven't tried it. Alcohol works great on hobby lacquers, that's for sure.
That's one I haven't heard of myself, and the subject gets brought up a lot on forums, as model car guys seem utterly fascinated with stripping paint (I avoid it like the plague). I know that any lye-based cleaner, such as Easy Off oven cleaner, works wonders on hobby enamels. The purple cleaners/degreasers also work.
The reason I ask is that enamel and lacquer have different characteristics; lacquer can be "rejuvenated"; if it dries out in a bottle you can add thinner and it will be just fine again. Once enamel has dried, nothing will make it good again. I would think it would be impervious to alcohol...but haven't tried it. Alcohol works great on hobby lacquers, that's for sure.
MPWR
07-16-2008, 03:51 PM
Are you guys certain that alcohol will strip enamel?
I'm with Bob here. I can't say that alcohol will strip enamels (haven't ever tried it). But there are a good number of things that work on enamels quickly and safely.
Enamels are different than lacquers and aqueous acrylics, in that they cure instead of dry- so they won't necessarily dissolve in a solvent (like alcohol).
Caustic cleaner/degreasers like Purple Power and Castrol Super Clean are fantastic for stripping enamels and are completely safe on plastic. Don't know what brand name they'd be sold under in the UK, but I can't imagine they'd be hard to find.
You won't hurt anything by trying the alcohol. But if it doesn't work, there are other good options.
I'm with Bob here. I can't say that alcohol will strip enamels (haven't ever tried it). But there are a good number of things that work on enamels quickly and safely.
Enamels are different than lacquers and aqueous acrylics, in that they cure instead of dry- so they won't necessarily dissolve in a solvent (like alcohol).
Caustic cleaner/degreasers like Purple Power and Castrol Super Clean are fantastic for stripping enamels and are completely safe on plastic. Don't know what brand name they'd be sold under in the UK, but I can't imagine they'd be hard to find.
You won't hurt anything by trying the alcohol. But if it doesn't work, there are other good options.
ZoomZoomMX-5
07-16-2008, 04:05 PM
You won't hurt anything by trying the alcohol. But if it doesn't work, there are other good options.
The alcohol is certainly cheap enough; Wal Mart has pint bottles of 91% for well under $1, so it's useful for other things like cleaning the airbrush or mixing with some acrylics. I have a bottle next to my painting station, alongside all my other solvents. I got a gallon of 99% from the supermarket (ordered it from pharmacy), I use that in a sealed container to strip prepainted bodies, like the Polar Lights kits. About 30 mins. and it comes right off. It also stripped my Revell/Dragon BMW M Coupe of it's weird blue paint...
Whenever I've stripped enamel, I used Easy Off; it's pretty nasty but I spray the parts, put them in a plastic bag, and after 30 mins. or so most, if not all of it will scrub off w/an old toothbrush. Water neutralizes it immediately. I never had the patience to dip a body in the purple stuff and wait overnight or days...weeks...
Dawn Power Dissolve also is a good stripper for enamels and lacquers.
The alcohol is certainly cheap enough; Wal Mart has pint bottles of 91% for well under $1, so it's useful for other things like cleaning the airbrush or mixing with some acrylics. I have a bottle next to my painting station, alongside all my other solvents. I got a gallon of 99% from the supermarket (ordered it from pharmacy), I use that in a sealed container to strip prepainted bodies, like the Polar Lights kits. About 30 mins. and it comes right off. It also stripped my Revell/Dragon BMW M Coupe of it's weird blue paint...
Whenever I've stripped enamel, I used Easy Off; it's pretty nasty but I spray the parts, put them in a plastic bag, and after 30 mins. or so most, if not all of it will scrub off w/an old toothbrush. Water neutralizes it immediately. I never had the patience to dip a body in the purple stuff and wait overnight or days...weeks...
Dawn Power Dissolve also is a good stripper for enamels and lacquers.
jano11
07-17-2008, 01:11 AM
Already stripped Revell enamel with Isopropyl Alcohol. I supposed it works for Humbrol too. I orefer the alcohol as it is not dangerous (caustic) as other products used for stripping paint.
nicecar
07-17-2008, 12:34 PM
I found some stuff called "reddish blink" that was sold to my parents on a holiday in florida. Its one of those *look how shiny i can make your ring* things, and its on a stand in the middle of a shopping centre.
I'm soaking a peice of sprue i used for mixing paint now, and hopefull it will remove the paint but not the plastic. If not, its off to boots to try the other solutions, or maplins becuase that is closer.
I'm soaking a peice of sprue i used for mixing paint now, and hopefull it will remove the paint but not the plastic. If not, its off to boots to try the other solutions, or maplins becuase that is closer.
ZoomZoomMX-5
07-17-2008, 01:18 PM
Already stripped Revell enamel with Isopropyl Alcohol. I supposed it works for Humbrol too. I orefer the alcohol as it is not dangerous (caustic) as other products used for stripping paint.
That's good to know. No reason for over-powering chemicals if they can be avoided. Just remember the 91 and 99% alcohols are flammable, the regular 70% has too much water to be flammable.
That's good to know. No reason for over-powering chemicals if they can be avoided. Just remember the 91 and 99% alcohols are flammable, the regular 70% has too much water to be flammable.
nicecar
07-17-2008, 01:33 PM
Sounds good, i dont smoke, but will keep my models away from my mum, and the cooker :P
So far this reddish blink which has been soaking for a while isnt looking good, no fear of melting the plastic, but i still have time.
So far this reddish blink which has been soaking for a while isnt looking good, no fear of melting the plastic, but i still have time.
ketje
07-17-2008, 02:19 PM
To strip something painted with Humbrol enamels I always use some oven cleaner. Put the piece in a little bag and spray it with the oven cleaner. This works great and doesn't harm the plastic.
jano11
07-18-2008, 03:28 AM
Yesterday afternoon I threw in the alcohol a started SL300 body I bought on eBay. It was painted with the Revell enamel included in the kit. 12 hours later it peeled off nicely after a gentle scrub with an old toothbrush.
So isopropyl alcohol definitely removes enamel paint.
So isopropyl alcohol definitely removes enamel paint.
MPWR
07-18-2008, 08:54 PM
So isopropyl alcohol definitely removes enamel paint.
And doesn't cause that fun burning in the eyes and back of throat that oven cleaner does. :thumbsup:
Glad to hear it worked.
And doesn't cause that fun burning in the eyes and back of throat that oven cleaner does. :thumbsup:
Glad to hear it worked.
nicecar
07-19-2008, 01:24 PM
Awesome.
That reddish blink does f all, that plastics been in there over a day and the paint wont even come off!
To Boots/Maplins!!
That reddish blink does f all, that plastics been in there over a day and the paint wont even come off!
To Boots/Maplins!!
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