Prelude questions. help new guy

Ok, so I think im pretty set on buying a honda prelude, i was thinking a 94 at first but i think i might get a 96 with a VTEC cus they come with one right? anyway i honestly dont know crap about cars but really wanna learn and my friend has an evo 9 and im always in the car with him when he races.

i love racing and want to have a pretty nice and fast car and preludes are pretty good, cheap, and i will have extra money for a body kit/ rims/ cold air intake etc.

i just need opinions on all this, what i should put in it, what i shouldnt put in it, what i CAN put in it.

and can they get a turbo in them or do u can only supercharge them, i dont really wanna play for a supercharge

please help if you know alot about this and try to teach me a little =]]

treat me like i dont know shit about cars because i really dont know much

Haha, not only the 96 Preludes have VTEC. 94's do too. There's the Prelude S, Prelude 4WS, Prelude Si, and Prelude VTEC. The VTEC motor is the H22A1. Which is an H-Series 2.2 Litre motor while the Si is an H23A1. If you have the cash, do a swap for the JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) H22A, which IS faster. Get an intake, headers, cat-back exhaust. Basically your car depends on your wallet. If you have the money, get cams, cam gears, valves, and even rods and pistons. Crower has really good cams. And for your question on turbo or supercharger, you can turbo a Prelude. Don't get a cheap ass $700 EBay kit though. That will get messed up. Spend a couple grand on a good company, I.E Turbonetics or Greddy. But for sure you shoud do an intake/header/exhaust. Any more questions?

well im not really gonna have all the money at once but i was thinkin i could get i 96 Vtec for 5500 if im lucky, get a nice body kit, then an intake.



and for more questions, half the stuff u said i really dono wat it does or how much itll cost.

what are headers, cams, cam gears, rods and pistons lol

and for the turbo i always thot it was a little cheaper then that

and is it always better to supercharge it?

and so u think i would be buying a turbo from here?

http://www.raceinspired.com/ps-1535-26-drag-gen-4-turbo-kit-honda-prelude-vtec-1992-1996.aspx

its like 3g's lol well the bottom price is i dono wat the top is

but it adds 100 hp thats alot fuck

and 96 prelude is like 210 hp stock right?

Haha. Keep the body stock for now, you won't get power out of a body kit. And DON'T get a huge ass wing. Get coilovers for sure. That's suspension. But if you go turbo, you'd have to build your motor. And the 92-96 H22A1 are all the same motor. Same power. Unless you go JDM. www.hmotorsonline.com (http://www.hmotorsonline.com) has the JDM H-Series for sale.
Headers are used for replacing the stock exhaust manifold to increase the exit of exhaust for better results. Megan Racing makes good headers.
The piston fits into an internal cylindrical part of an engine called a sleeve and slides up and down during the combustion cycle. The piston turns the engine’s crankshaft via a connecting rod, converting the energy of combustion into rotational torque. The piston and sleeve of an engine are replaceable but must both be replaced at the same time. It's what makes the car move basically.
rods connect the piston to the crank shaft
A camshaft is a shaft having a series of cams at intervals along its length, for operating the engine valve mechanism. Made up of a series of egg-shaped sections, which as they rotate raise and lower part of the valve train, which in turn causes the valves to open and close.
Go to www.howstuffworks.com (http://www.howstuffworks.com) and read about how engines work. Read it until you understand it. Read how VTEC (Variable-Timing & lift, Electronic Control) works. If you're going to be doing stuff to your car, learn how it works just so you know exactly what you're doing. Read that and then post back with more questions that you have :]

Hope I didn't confuse you too much man. :evillol:

lol i know thats just for the chicks :biggrin:

wat do u mean i have to build my motor to put in a turbo?

i read up on how it works and i learned a little i guess

but ya im confused as hell cus this is like the first time im hearing all this

can i ask why u got an SI instead of a VTEC?

and did u get a jdm motor

it would be cool if u could like give me a list of stuff i should do in order and some options and maybe an estimated price lol?

then ill look it all up and shit

and u know any good sites to look for more cars in my area?

maybe one speciall for hondas or preludes??

it would be cool if u could like give me a list of stuff i should do in order and some options and maybe an estimated price lol?
and u know any good sites to look for more cars in my area?

Alright, by building a motor, you re-do all your internals, aka the cams, valves, rods and pistons etc. Because the stock ones usually can't handle the high compression the turbo makes the motor. I couldn't find a VTEC for sale, but I like the Si. It pulls on the Prelude VTEC till third gear, then the VTEC has the redline advantage. But I've beaten 3 at the 1/4 mile. And no, I didn't get a JDM motor, mine is USDM. Here is what all I have done to my car:
4% Tinted Back Windows.
5% Tinted Front Windows.
Blue Corner Lights.
Prelude VTEC Model Wing.
Smoked/Black Euro Tail Lights
Seibon carbon-fiber hood.
Megan Racing 4-2-1 Headers.
Megan Racing Front Upper Strut Bar.
Megan Racing Rear Upper Strut Bar.
OBX-R Short Throw Shifter.
OBX-R Rear-Lower Strut Bar.
OBX-R Reinforced Silicon Upper Radiator Hose
OBX-R Reinforced Silicon Lower Radiator Hose
Ground Control Coilovers w/ Eibach Springs.
Tsudo N1 Cat-Back Exhaust 2.5"
Tsudo N1 Muffler with 4" Tip.
Gutted Catalytic Converter.
3" Custom Air Intake Powdercoated Red.
Custom Painted Fire Engine Red Valve Cover.
Chrome/Red Spectre Air Filter.
NGK Spark Plugs.
NGK Spark Plug Wires.
All engine components painted red.
Effect 17x7.5 Wheels.
Kumho Ecsta AST 205/45/17
Cross Drilled/Slotted Rotors and Ceramic Pads.
GodSpeed High Performance Aluminum Radiator.

I got most of it off eBay. As long as you know the companies, you can go to ebay.
http://www.meganracing.com
http://www.ground-control-store.com/index.php
http://www.tein.com/
http://www.obxracingsports.com/
http://www.greddy.com/
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/products/index.php
http://www.godspeedproject.com/store/index.php?main_page=index

Don't get a 96 if you're going to be modding it, OBDII sucks. 95 is the best year of all of the 4th gens.

I totally forgot about that. Thanks Man. I have a 94. But the only downfall with the H23A1 is that it's not as common has the H22A1 for modding, so they don't make as many parts. H22A1 is the better motor honestly. But I'm content with the the 2.3

and how much do u think all that together costs?

are u thinking about getting a turbo or anything

and wat about a blow off valve lol

wats ur 1/4 mile?

and is the H22A1 the 95?

alotta questions lol

All the stuff I have is probably like 3 or 4 grand. But cars take time and patience to do. A little at a time goes a long way. And na, I'm not turboing my car. It's gotta be reliable to last me for college and I don't have the money.
And I haven't ran the 1/4 in a long ass time because I've been on probation.:banghead: But when I run it I'll let you know.
And yeah, the H22A1 is in 92-96 Preludes. And the 5th gen, (97-01) have the H22A4.

so why do u think i should get the 95 if they all have the same engine?

Well not just the 95. My friend has the 94 and it's fine. Actually beat a 95 at the 1/4. So it's really up to you.

and wat has he done?

i dono

hard decisions

THe 94 VTEC that my friend has has intake, header, and cat-back exhaust. That's it. But it's a really good car. OBDII is far more difficult to tune after market than OBDI.

hmmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmm

Haha yeah. Cars get confusing man. But it's something you gotta get used to. Two years ago, I didn't care about modding cars at all. I was all about magazines. And then I got my car, bought an intake, then I was addicted.

lol ya

i just love the sound of cars and racing

Yeah, it's a whole different feeling. Especially when I'm at the 1/4. So any ideas on what you're getting?

lol no i dono i havent really been thinking

i have a while maybe

anyway

hey dude look at this

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/car/748883102.html

it was just posted today

thats a real good deal its just weird it has no AC but thats not a problem

damn i need to get that lol

i wanted to ask u some questions i should ask them before i consider buying it u know

please comment back soon!!!!

That's not bad. But PERSONALLY, I'd get a Prelude that's is still stock, with nothing done to it like that one. You can't really learn anything if the car is already done, and half the time, when people own Honda's, they do everything the fast way, which means it's usually not done right. See if you can find a stock one on autotrader.com or cars.com

ya but all the stock ones i see are 5500

and thats alot

Damn dude. I got mine for 3200. Keep looking. Preludes are kind of rare. It takes time.

and wit this one i don gotta buy a kit or anything and i can get a brand new AC

i live in az lol

i think it has a cold air intake

and i like the engine he put in it

Lol. Prelude's come with AC. But cold air intakes aren't always good.
Especially when it rains. But since you live in AZ, I'm guessing you don't get rain. :cool:

ya we dont get rain even tho it poured like hell tonight lol

theres no ac in it because they put the jdm motor in it i think

they also said they put new tires on it today

That's stupid. The JDM motor is EXACTLY the same as the USDM size and all that, so the AC should have fit. I'd go stock man

There a too many reasons I wouldn't buy that lude on Craigslist.

But the fact that there is no AC and you live in AZ would be enough for me. Also the fact that they are calling it a "Race car"...I doubt that thing has ever seen a track but it was probably misused and abused a lot on the street. And I seriously doubt that "v-tech" (lol) engine gets 30mpg.

I'd be patient and look for a lude that has a working AC and isn't hideously mutilated by a goofy body kit. They aren't that hard to find.

Sorry if that body kit is your style I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but a body kit like that will get you no respect from anyone but highschool kids and ricers. Nice rims though.

That's what I was thinking. I completely forgot to point out the "VTECH" on it. Because if they said it was a race car, all you do is look at the valve cover and it says it nice and big 'DOHC VTEC' which means something isn't right. Would you agree, Gohan, to go for a stock or close-to stock Lude?

if u want a fast car and don't want to spend loads of money a prelude might not be the best way to go... because i have a 95 prelude vtec h22a1... and i'll tell u what i've already dumped over 5gs into motor part..to go all motor and i'm still spending money.. because fully built all motor, not even 300whp.. and you won't even run 13's.. i'm going to change out piston to add a turbo to get to my goal of at least 400hp... soo get a h22 prelude with minor add ons and turbo it and you'll easily get 300+ hp, but like i said it will take shit loads of money,time, and pashence.. ive been building on my lude for a little over a year and a half and will still take a nother year a about 7+ grand ... all together i'll end up 20 grand into it... my opinion go with a intera GSR...

a stock gsr vs. stock vtec lude a gsr will win every time plus theres a lot more for it and is much easier to work on.......

Well if he gets a JDM H22A, he'll have more power. Gut the car, make it lighter, do simple bolt-ons and some cams and gears and it'll be fast. My friend has an accord with the JDM H22A and it walked on a GSR on the way to the track, and then ON the track. Best time was a 13.9 on street tires. So yeaaahh..and that's not $7,000.

ya dude it didnt have ac cus they came down from ny

and i know it was kinda wack i wanted to change the kit on it. but i loved the custom interior

i didnt like the color at all really and it looked alot like a mustang which is gay

and all the stuff like "race car" and "vtech" is cus i guess the guys wife put it up on craigslist but the guy that owns it had it up on ebay and it was alot better there with all info

i didnt get in anyway lol

I'm telling you man. Ask anyone on AF, they'll tell you to get a stock one. Plus it's always more fun and it makes you feel good knowing you did the work yourself.

dude in az they cost more or something cus the only ones i can find for 3500 stock are ones where they say it backfires and shit

what do u think about the gsr

Backfiring is just unburned fuel. Change the spark plugs/wires and that should be it. GSR's are good cars. They have a B-series 1.7 liter. It's up to you. I wouldn't trade my Lude for anything.

arent the ludes 2.2L?

i want a lude

Depends which one you get.
For 92-96, here's the list:

H22 (1992-1996 JDM Honda Prelude VTEC)

H22A (1997-2001 JDM Honda Prelude SiR)

H22A (1999-2001 USDM Honda Prelude )

H22A (1997-2001 JDM Honda Prelude SiR Type S)

H22A1 (1997-1998 USDM Honda Prelude)

H22A1 (1994-1996 USDM Honda Prelude VTEC )

H22A4 (1997-1998 USDM Honda Prelude VTEC/SH)

H22A4 (1999-2001 USDM Honda Prelude VTEC/SH)

H23A1 (1992-1996 USDM Honda Prelude Si/SE)

F22B (1992-1996 USDM Honda Prelude Si, similar to H23A1)

F22A (1992-1996 USDM Honda Prelude S)

hmmm.

wat do u think about american muscle

would i end up putting more money in it

forget the last thing i said lol

Lmfao. Don't be stupid. Go Honda. They have more potential for less money, and they never die.

definitily

So what's your decision?

i have a f22b motor and i wont to put a h22b head and intake on it how and does anyone have any parts they wont to sell

I'd just ditch the SOHC alltogether. Get an H22A. It's worth the money.

i have a question i have a h23 supposedly rebuilt but has no compression on three cylinders and 150 on the other i double checked the timing according to helms manual its all properly timed can anyone help?
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well the reason i ask is i have h23 but has no compression on three cylinders and 150 on one the f22 just got new valves before the oil pump locked up destroyed the block if would fit id use it untill i got the head for the h23 done

You've have to block some oil passages. You'd be better off getting the full motor, though. "Frankenstein" motors often aren't all that reliable. I've seen people who really knew what they were doing end up blowing stuff up.
Pull your motor, sell it to some dumbass that thinks it's a good motor. Then just shell out the $1000 or so for a decent H22A. Me and my friend did an H22 swap in 2003, and it's been running strong ever since.