Can anyone explain these codes?
sheol13
06-10-2008, 10:27 AM
I have a 2000 Olds Intrigue and been having starting issues, I found a bad battery and replaced it. The car when it is hot outside will be hard to start when it does this, the gauges won’t read you have to give it gas just to make it start. If you shut it off and try again it will start right. On too my actual question. I took it to a dealership and the they hooked it to their diagnostics computer and they found these codes
B3106- keyless entry data link
U1016 – loss pcm communication
B0608 – Power moding error
I recently had to replace my driver’s side power window motor and unit. They told me that they think the problem is the ignition switch. Which is 105 dollars just for the part. And a few hours for me to replace, I just like another opinion.
B3106- keyless entry data link
U1016 – loss pcm communication
B0608 – Power moding error
I recently had to replace my driver’s side power window motor and unit. They told me that they think the problem is the ignition switch. Which is 105 dollars just for the part. And a few hours for me to replace, I just like another opinion.
harmankardon35
06-10-2008, 07:19 PM
yup, that sounds ignition switchy to me....you can take apart your ignition switch and clean it as opposed to buying a new one.... but I have never done it personally so someone else here may be able to give you some advice on how to take it apart. Read this website it pretty much explains your issues (person has nearly the EXACT same symptoms as you)
http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic120582.htm
Taken from above link,
Vehicle: 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue 3.5L
Issue: Vehicle will not start or may not run.
Solution: Faulty ignition switch. (Replace or disassemble and clean contacts)
Discovery: Ignition switch was removed from vehicle and disassembled. Start and run circuit contacts exhibited mild burning/smut build-up leading to intermittent high resistance or opening of start and run circuits. Contacts were cleaned and switch reassembled. Leads and connections to switch appeared to be in good condition. Issue has failed to reappear.
Details: Between April-August '03 vehicle began exhibiting with increasing frequency one of four conditions:
1) will not crank,
2) cranks w/o starting,
3) starts but will die immediately or run for short period (3-5 sec) then die,
4) starts and runs but will die w/o warning while vehicle is in motion.
Early on 1-3 would manifest only upon restarting warm. Toward the end, item 4 began to be observed regularly with 1-3 being seen for warm or cold starts.
An interesting observation was made but failed to be understood in the context of the observed problem. Normal behavior for the tachometer is to 'pop-up' indicating the current engine speed following a successful start and release of the key. When the tachometer failed to respond following start and return of the key, condition 3 was always observed.
OBD II system was interrogated using Auterra Diagnostic Module. It was important to note that OBD II never reported a stored code (at least none persisting longer than the next start, successful or not). Why was this? Consideration was made of each of the many devices dealing with engine maintainence. Nearly all of the on-board devices which might have been suspect, should they fail, would generate a code and upon failure OBD II would revert to default setting or seek the information via redundancy to allow continued operation as opposed total shutdown.
After a few wiring checks and some reflection it was considered that perhaps a code was not stored because the problem was not one which the vehicle considered to be a device failure. Turning off the vehicle is not an event that would generate a code (obviously) as it is considered normal operation but a bad ig switch contact would behave similarly thus resulting in a 'no-code' problem. This consideration led me to suspect a possible failure of the ignition switch or one of its leads/connections."
http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic120582.htm
Taken from above link,
Vehicle: 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue 3.5L
Issue: Vehicle will not start or may not run.
Solution: Faulty ignition switch. (Replace or disassemble and clean contacts)
Discovery: Ignition switch was removed from vehicle and disassembled. Start and run circuit contacts exhibited mild burning/smut build-up leading to intermittent high resistance or opening of start and run circuits. Contacts were cleaned and switch reassembled. Leads and connections to switch appeared to be in good condition. Issue has failed to reappear.
Details: Between April-August '03 vehicle began exhibiting with increasing frequency one of four conditions:
1) will not crank,
2) cranks w/o starting,
3) starts but will die immediately or run for short period (3-5 sec) then die,
4) starts and runs but will die w/o warning while vehicle is in motion.
Early on 1-3 would manifest only upon restarting warm. Toward the end, item 4 began to be observed regularly with 1-3 being seen for warm or cold starts.
An interesting observation was made but failed to be understood in the context of the observed problem. Normal behavior for the tachometer is to 'pop-up' indicating the current engine speed following a successful start and release of the key. When the tachometer failed to respond following start and return of the key, condition 3 was always observed.
OBD II system was interrogated using Auterra Diagnostic Module. It was important to note that OBD II never reported a stored code (at least none persisting longer than the next start, successful or not). Why was this? Consideration was made of each of the many devices dealing with engine maintainence. Nearly all of the on-board devices which might have been suspect, should they fail, would generate a code and upon failure OBD II would revert to default setting or seek the information via redundancy to allow continued operation as opposed total shutdown.
After a few wiring checks and some reflection it was considered that perhaps a code was not stored because the problem was not one which the vehicle considered to be a device failure. Turning off the vehicle is not an event that would generate a code (obviously) as it is considered normal operation but a bad ig switch contact would behave similarly thus resulting in a 'no-code' problem. This consideration led me to suspect a possible failure of the ignition switch or one of its leads/connections."
LittleHoov
06-10-2008, 11:59 PM
Heres instructions for removing the switch
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=736656 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=736656l)
You can take apart the switch and clean the inside, but I didnt do that, so I dont know how haha. Someone else did post a guide to cleaning the inside though, so you might try searching for it. Just cleaning the outside connections did help out with my problems, so its worth a shot. All it takes is time.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=736656 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=736656l)
You can take apart the switch and clean the inside, but I didnt do that, so I dont know how haha. Someone else did post a guide to cleaning the inside though, so you might try searching for it. Just cleaning the outside connections did help out with my problems, so its worth a shot. All it takes is time.
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