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Stevie is Sued for ......


steviek
05-27-2008, 06:42 PM
Well guys ... Today is not a happy day. I was just sued. I have to go to hockey right now but I will leave you with the chance to guess for how much.

I will update you with the full story and everything later.

Anyone want to ballpark guess this one?

vanilla gorilla
05-27-2008, 06:56 PM
$1,000,000!!!!

I dunno...what do people usually sue for? I've never been sued....I've been threatened but never actually sued.

$15,000 is my guess???

Blackcrow64
05-27-2008, 08:16 PM
Ouch... That hurts the DSM fund a bit...

I don't even know where to begin on guessing. People sue for all sorts of stupid reasons now a days... Sorry to hear about it man.

rickyrickster25
05-27-2008, 08:29 PM
Im interested in why you are being sued... Did you do something naughty?

steviek
05-27-2008, 11:35 PM
I thought I would be in the mood to tell you guys all about tonight but I just am not. The story is going to take a while so I need a time when I am feeling ok.

I will update you guys in a bit.

david-b
05-28-2008, 12:15 AM
Tease?


I hope it's not for rape or anything like that.

Killa
05-28-2008, 12:57 AM
post young girl pix over internet ? hit a woment ? insurance ?

l_eclipse_l
05-28-2008, 12:59 AM
post young girl pix over internet ?

lol oh Killa...I missed you man

Blackcrow64
05-28-2008, 07:29 AM
Dear God... I think I know how much it is now... If it is what I think it is, holy shit that sucks beyond anything dude... :(

ned032002
05-28-2008, 08:17 AM
Now I NEED to know!!????

david-b
05-28-2008, 09:33 AM
Dear God... I think I know how much it is now... If it is what I think it is, holy shit that sucks beyond anything dude... :(

Oh shit I think I just figured it out too. Dude I hope not. How does that happen?

steviek
05-28-2008, 11:39 AM
Allright well the shock has nummbed down abit and I Figure I can begin to tell this story.

On Feb 10th 2006 me and my soccer team finished a midnight indoor soccer game at about 1. We absolutely hammered the other team and we won like 9-0 or something. We decided that we would go to the local on campus bar for a pint. We went there grabbed a couple beers nothing happened and when the bar closed we were going to go play indoor beach volleyball. I left to go to my car to get my soccer ball and some gear with another bud. When we came back a couple p-layers from my team were in this heated argument with these drunk guys who were trying to start a fight. They were chirping us about being soccer players and having a soccer ball and all that stupid shit. We were trying to walk away but they like came off the bus and came at us. Anyways one guy comes at me who was about 6'3 and i threw a jab at him and it caught him on the button and knocked him out. Anyways he falls back smacks his head against a curb and goes inito a coma. Long story short he has a few continuing problems such as some hearing loss in an ear and some balance problems and slurred speach since. Now him and his family are suing. Me the university and the bar and a bouncer for 1.6 million dollars in damages. Its a ridiculous sum of money. I guess I willl have to fight it obviously just like I am fighting the court case that was associated with it. There is sooo much more to this story but you guys get the gist.

david-b
05-28-2008, 11:49 AM
DDAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNNN. Crazy story. That's stupid. People start shit and they're the ones that sue. And (not to be stupid or mean) but they usually win too. Hopefully you can get this worked out. Is there any evidence that they started everything and the punch was justified? Like video?

I hope you come out on top of this one. The whole thing is just stupid IMO.




Note to self... don't get punched by Stevie

steviek
05-28-2008, 12:02 PM
Well there is evidence in the sense that people said they were clearly the antagonizers and that they were drunk that the guy did come at me from witnesses (in fact all witnesses agree that they were the ones who started the fight (even them) but no video or anything.

Yea the guy spent a month in the hospital in a coma and I got charged with aggravated assault. Pretty shitty situation to say the least. They also had already gotten in a fight that night in fact the guy they had beat up before earlier in the night saw them in the hospital (because they went there with there comatosed friend and he was there getting his injuries treated,.

l_eclipse_l
05-28-2008, 01:39 PM
Hire yourself a good lawyer and make sure you get all the witness accounts on the record. You should be able to pull self defense and get out of it. Good luck though man hopefully things work out.

Blackcrow64
05-28-2008, 02:28 PM
Damn dude... I was wondering if it had anything to do with that little incident and that amount. That totally sucks... Good luck with it all... :(

SilvrEclipse
05-28-2008, 04:57 PM
Damn man, hope you get it all worked out..

Thor06
05-28-2008, 05:51 PM
Holy shit. That sucks ass man. I hate our legal system (and apparently yours too) in that people can sue for outrageous amounts of money for being complete idiots themselves. The way I see it he instigated a fight, got his ass whipped, and wound up in a coma... BUT he woke up. He should be fucking thankful you didnt hit him just a little bit harder because its entirely possible that his ass wouldnt have woken up. Good luck on the legal battle, and I agree with |_eclipse_|, if they admit they started the fight then it should just be self defense.

NateS
05-28-2008, 06:01 PM
Wow, sorry about your situation. I can not believe people now a days. The douchebag starts a fight, gets his ass wooped, and now it is your fault he got fucked up. Maybe you will get lucky and someone else will punch him in his dumbass face and he will hit another curb. Good luck man.

Blackcrow64
05-28-2008, 07:23 PM
Good luck on the legal battle, and I agree with |_eclipse_|, if they admit they started the fight then it should just be self defense.
It would be nice if it could go that route, but the problem with the self defense reasoning is that you are not allowed to execute any greater force than has already been opposed onto you for it to be considered self defense. It's sad because by the time its considered "self defense" your in just as bad shape, if not worse, than the guy who started it all... Hopefully you can find a good lawyer who will be able to help you out of this all.

Killa
05-29-2008, 10:00 AM
When is the court day ? did you try to find a lawyer yet ? I hope every thing turn out to be arite for you.

steviek
05-29-2008, 01:26 PM
Court is Aug 24th or something like that
Already have a lawyer. Its already cost me 10g's

'97ventureowner
05-29-2008, 01:34 PM
Court is Aug 24th or something like that
Already have a lawyer. Its already cost me 10g's
If you win the case, can you turn around and sue him for court costs you incurred?

l_eclipse_l
05-29-2008, 05:30 PM
If you win the case, can you turn around and sue him for court costs you incurred?

I think that if you are sued usually your lawyer will counter-sue on the basis of an unlawful lawsuit for the court costs and lawyer fees incurred by the defendent. If he is found not guilty, the judge will usually allow the defendent to recoup his losses paid to defend himself but it might involve a separate lawsuit.

clipsekid99
05-30-2008, 01:17 AM
Dang man, good luck.

gthompson97
05-30-2008, 03:18 AM
You punched him and he fell down after that because he was so drunk. That's what I would say.

steviek
05-30-2008, 08:36 AM
You punched him and he fell down after that because he was so drunk. That's what I would say.

Yea and that is basically what our statement of defence reads like. With a few other mitigating comments.


I haven't decided whether to counter sue it is more of wait and see type thing. I think my defence is really strong and thats why we have decided to go to trial rather than "taking a deal"

These guys are something else. There is something about twins where they just feed off eachother and never take responsibility for their actions... We will see.

Black99GST
05-31-2008, 03:48 PM
wishing the best! you will put this fool in his place... unless the judge is wacked in the head...

ned032002
05-31-2008, 10:54 PM
Hopefully the judge isn't related in some way to the plaintiff lol that would suck.

steviek
06-01-2008, 12:41 PM
that would cause a mistrial. But yea lets hope haha.

JoeShmoe
06-02-2008, 07:25 PM
Holy shit man, that sucks. So for him being a dumbass, they want you to pay for his hospital bills. He is going to get screwed if the judge has any sense and is not bias. You'll be ok man, keep your head up.

steviek
06-02-2008, 08:27 PM
Well I just found out today that my insurance company will not cover me unless I win the criminal case. They say it is considered an intentional act unless I win. SO I got a lot riding on this :S

Black99GST
06-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Fu*k!!!! that must SUCK! come a the states! run from the law if your case falls through! ;) we can run texas with the DSM's man!

Thor06
06-02-2008, 10:36 PM
That IS the suck. :( I hope shit works out for you man.

JoeShmoe
06-03-2008, 08:37 AM
Damn it man, things really seem like they are going to screw you. But don't worry, I doubt that f*cking douche will win.

steviek
06-03-2008, 09:44 AM
Sorta good news I heard today If I do win the criminal case my insurance company will reembourse me for my lawyer fees and what not if I am found liable so I may be seeing some of my money back. I am feeling pretty good about the case. They offered me a plea for a lesser charge but I denied it and decided to fight it full fledged in court. It is tough to do something like that cause on one hand you can get some peace of my mind and put it past you but on the other you know its not just. So I'm taking my chances. I gotta say I have a lot riding on the next couple months.

Thanks all for the kind words. It does mean something to me.

JoeShmoe
06-03-2008, 12:15 PM
Sorta good news I heard today If I do win the criminal case my insurance company will reembourse me for my lawyer fees and what not if I am found liable so I may be seeing some of my money back. I am feeling pretty good about the case. They offered me a plea for a lesser charge but I denied it and decided to fight it full fledged in court. It is tough to do something like that cause on one hand you can get some peace of my mind and put it past you but on the other you know its not just. So I'm taking my chances. I gotta say I have a lot riding on the next couple months.

Thanks all for the kind words. It does mean something to me.
There you go man, if they are offering a plea that means that they know that they are going down. I got a feeling your going to come out on top of this one. All the cards are in your favor.

Black99GST
06-03-2008, 07:00 PM
:15millionsign: i agree, you got this now buddy!!! :grinyes: this is DONE! just hang in their, keep your side STRAIGHT and ride it out... they just sold themselves with that plee offer...

JoeShmoe
06-05-2008, 09:24 AM
:15millionsign: i agree, you got this now buddy!!! :grinyes: this is DONE! just hang in their, keep your side STRAIGHT and ride it out... they just sold themselves with that plee offer...

That's right, they wouldn't have offered you a plea unless they knew they were on the losing end. Its in the bag, just sit tight.

steviek
06-16-2008, 03:42 PM
I have a little bit of good news as an update for everyone. My lawyer called the lawyer of the guy that is sueing me and is getting them to include some acts of negligence in the lawsuit.

Why you might ask? Becuase acts of negligence must be covered by the insurance company and that therefore forces them to accept coverage. Of course the opposing lawyer wants there to be an insurance company on the other end cause they have much deeper pockets than me so its win win .

Thor06
06-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Nice... but insurance for what?

steviek
06-16-2008, 05:46 PM
Its part of our homeowners policy my friend

Blackcrow64
06-16-2008, 08:21 PM
Nice dude... That is a much better route to go with it all. Can't beat that homeowners insurance. lol

JoeShmoe
06-17-2008, 11:10 AM
I'm so fucking lost here...:confused:

steviek
06-17-2008, 12:04 PM
OK let me try and explain this simply. I want the insurance company to defend me because they have money and lawyers and thats just what they do. I put in a claim. They of course denied it stating that they are not obligated to defend "intentional" acts. Of course if I won my criminal case it would then not be considered intentional and they would have to defend me. But my cunning lawyer which I privately hired found a loop hole in which if he can contact the dude thats suing me lawyer and get him to ammend his statement of claim so that it now includes non-intentional acts such as negligence (eg I was negligent in ascertaining proper medical care for the dude etc) than that is a non-intentional act which compels my insurance company to accept responsibilty and defend me (unless they can find some other loop hole). Of course this could all be pointless if I win my criminal case but right now I am out of pocket about 12g's and I don't want to pay any more so the sooner the insurance company becomes involved the sooner I can stop the bleeding.

Get it?

david-b
06-17-2008, 12:27 PM
So your lawyer told the other lawyer that you could have helped the dude but failed to do so, and to sue you for that. By saying that you didn't help the guy after the incident, your insurance now has to help?

steviek
06-17-2008, 12:30 PM
yea basically my lawyer just told the other lawyer to ammend the claim so that there are some reasons that he is suing me which were unintentional not just what they consider to be intentional acts. In doing so then the insurance company will be obligated to defend.

JoeShmoe
06-18-2008, 08:44 AM
True, what a mess with lawyers and everything.

david-b
06-18-2008, 09:34 AM
True, what a mess with lawyers and everything.

That's why you don't get sued.... duh.

ned032002
06-18-2008, 12:00 PM
Lawyers are sneaky and if they want to win they have the power to make it happen even if it means making a guilty man innocent. I hope you don't get screwed.

JoeShmoe
06-18-2008, 12:08 PM
hopefully not, i don't think you can be seen guilty no matter what the scenario

Thor06
06-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Lawyers are sneaky and if they want to win they have the power to make it happen even if it means making a guilty man innocent.
I cant say that I actually "hate" much, but I can say with confidance that I hate parts of our legal system, some of the way its used, and some of the people using it. Do you guys ever see all of those class action lawsuits on TV going after drug companies? In my own opinion, those people should be refused health care from then on out. I mean some of them are legit, but many are complete bull shit. The way I see it, suing a drug company like that is no different than suing a knife company because you cut yourself. You should assume anything synthetic like that could kill you anyway, IMO theres a reason its not found in nature.

/rant.

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