Budget Build 2008

Hey guys.. I am doing a budget build on my red VR4!
Goal- 450WHP for less then $1000 (Useing mostly Garaged parts)
Motor->$500
Used Factory Rods-$50
Grind used crank-$90
Head Gasket set- $90
Bearings- $50
Pistons- New rings used set. or Topline Piston set??>$200
Used Heads- Free


Power->$300
Walbro- $50
injectors- 550cc- Must sell the 450cc I currently have in it. >100+450cc
Custom TD05 Manifolds- Free
SAFC II- Have already
Wideband- Have
Twin 14b Turbos- $100
Custom oil and coolant lines- $30
Manul Boost Controller- Free
HHH Datalogger- Have
Custom Downpipe/Dump pipe Free ish

What pistons do you guys think I should use? Used Factory with new rings or Topline W/rings?

14b's eh? those are DSM TD05s right?
Do the toplines change the compression at all?

14b's eh? those are DSM TD05s right?
Do the toplines change the compression at all?

Yup the 14bs are the DSM stock turbo.. But there huge compared to a 9b. and the topline pistons are just factory compression ratio.. but the make them std or 20 over.

I am dieing to get this thing running..
I am hoping less then 3 weeks I will be done..

Jason

oh.. who wants pictures?

Damn that will be impressive for the price! I want pics!

Yup the 14bs are the DSM stock turbo.. But there huge compared to a 9b. and the topline pistons are just factory compression ratio.. but the make them std or 20 over.


lol, so is just about everything else :rolleyes:
what kind of modifications (besides the manifolds) have to be done to get them in there?

it's too bad boring out your block would put you over budget. 20 over would be badass.

+1 for pics

lol, so is just about everything else :rolleyes:
what kind of modifications (besides the manifolds) have to be done to get them in there?

it's too bad boring out your block would put you over budget. 20 over would be badass.

+1 for pics


Yeah.. but I got a stock bore block that is in great shape too.. if I needed bored I can get it done for cheep.. and stay under the 1000 but go over the 500.. and I will take pictures of thecustom manifolds.. Other then the manifolds I need to make new custom lines.. just going to evoco hose of hose.. (I got a deal with them :) then i am using 2 dowpipes for the eclipse to make my downpipe! haha Its going to look like ass.. but its going to work!

Jason

Yeah.. but I got a stock bore block that is in great shape too.. if I needed bored I can get it done for cheep.. and stay under the 1000 but go over the 500.. and I will take pictures of thecustom manifolds.. Other then the manifolds I need to make new custom lines.. just going to evoco hose of hose.. (I got a deal with them :) then i am using 2 dowpipes for the eclipse to make my downpipe! haha Its going to look like ass.. but its going to work!

Jason

I was just going to ask you about the O2 housings for coming off both turbos. This may get tricky, especially since one of them will be upside down. Good luck fabricating this.

Also, you may want to consider upgrading your clutch as well or else you will burn it up real fast, especially if your on the stock clutch. I know the stock clutch couldn't hold the power on my friend's BPU RT/TT.

I was just going to ask you about the O2 housings for coming off both turbos. This may get tricky, especially since one of them will be upside down. Good luck fabricating this.

Also, you may want to consider upgrading your clutch as well or else you will burn it up real fast, especially if your on the stock clutch. I know the stock clutch couldn't hold the power on my friend's BPU RT/TT.


Yes indeed I didn't think about the 02 on the rear.. Good point.. Just a little more welding not to big a deal I had to custom make the down pipe anyways.. Thanks for the heads up!

and it has an RPS Max with less then 1k on it! with a fidanza flywheel that was put in at the same time..

If this works, you just might have your first PMP 3/S turbo kit!

HAHAHA so true! haha Getto as ever!! haha

Actualy We are working on our new 13g 15g and 19t Turbos!! I am very excited about it!!

Ok I need to take some pictures.. and post!! I am going to put the motor together on saturday and get it ready to drop in.. then I am going to fab my manifolds and downpipes (Dumping under the car) and then I have 4 Races set up.. Evo X with bolt ons, Evo 8 lots of bolt ons and cams, mustang cobra ran a 12.3, and a 240 with the SR20det swap fully built..

damn man you didnt waste any time!

make sure to get some vids from those races too if you can.

Finaly!! I got some pictures!! sorry this took so damn long!! and I was supost to finish this by friday.. but my Frickin turbo never showed up1! AAARRR

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engine degreaser and a hose FTW :biggrin:and get that garbage oil filter off there:banghead: haha fram sucks. nice manifolds tho =)

posted pictures.. and I get 1 responce.. wow.. AF has gone down hill..

posted pictures.. and I get 1 responce.. wow.. AF has gone down hill..

i was drooling over them. Love the flat black (powdercoated?) plenum and manifolds. Not much to say exept...nice belt, but next time try a smaller one :P

lol, i think everyone's just 3/s'd out after the NG. I wish i could have went. Maybe next year i'll be in a little bit better situation financially. Hopefully is wont be too far away.

On another note, I paid off my VR-4 yesterday! still in debate with the wife over what the next car is gonna be. I would love to find a spyder SL, or maybe a 300zx TT ATX. I need an auto becuase my left knee kinda bothers me if i drive in traffic alot. The VR4 has pulled daily-driver duty for long enough anyways, and i eventually want to put some serious mods into her that will require more than a weekend of downtime.

i was drooling over them. Love the flat black (powdercoated?) plenum and manifolds. Not much to say exept...nice belt, but next time try a smaller one :P

lol, i think everyone's just 3/s'd out after the NG. I wish i could have went. Maybe next year i'll be in a little bit better situation financially. Hopefully is wont be too far away.

On another note, I paid off my VR-4 yesterday! still in debate with the wife over what the next car is gonna be. I would love to find a spyder SL, or maybe a 300zx TT ATX. I need an auto becuase my left knee kinda bothers me if i drive in traffic alot. The VR4 has pulled daily-driver duty for long enough anyways, and i eventually want to put some serious mods into her that will require more than a weekend of downtime.


HAHA it took me forever to figure out what you where talking about with the belt thing.. I was like is he talking about the Tbelt? I dont think the belts are loose? then I saw the picture haha.. Thats not me in the picture.. I where close that fit.. hahahaha I left the punk kid stage a few years ago.. anyways thanks man for the compliments..

Jason

Its cool seeing pics of the progress. It seems like lots of people always want to build up cars with custom made parts because its cheaper, and if its anything like where i live it is just talk because not many people have enough knowledge or skill to actually custom make parts (turbo manifolds, downpipe, etc.) Its awesome that you can actually fabricate parts that you need...do i smell a new turbo kit coming out from PMP?:icon16:

Oh jason, check your pm's

Nice work!

Oh Man!! I drove her around the block!! Twice!! haha she is a beast!!

I will post a video some time soon... I's so sick..


Jason

i swear bro that has gotta be the fastest 3/s build in history. How much boost are you running?

i swear bro that has gotta be the fastest 3/s build in history. How much boost are you running?


I am just breaking her in now.. so I am trying to stay out of boost for a while... but I will be running around 25 PSI..

I also Have a cam seal leaking on me so I have to pull the timing and change it.. not a big deal though I guess.. fixed the coolant leaks I think though so thats good.. haha

My exhaust is just the 02 housings.. so when I give it like a quarter throttle all you here is the turbo whining.. sounds like those cummins with a huge turbo when you just here the turbo X2..

^^Damn, no wonder you've been MIA on AIM. LOL Everytime I try to hit you up your woman replies and I'm like "WTF did you do with Jason." LOL J/K :p

I take it all is well though so that's good...

hey Slade.. Just hit me up on the phone.. Much better chance of getting ahold of me..

Good news. I got a video for you all!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0oHKWYSx78