Isolationism......
Gonthrax
10-17-2001, 05:13 AM
First of all I would like to say that in the wake of the recent desaster in America that this is no time for what I am about to say.
I'M PISSED AT OUR GOVERNMENT PAST AND PRESENT!!!!
Isolationism blows dogs for quarters.
I am sitting here at my computer, tucked away deep in the farmlands of Kentucky, looking at all the stunningly gorgous cars with specs that are just as stunning as the cars themselves wondering why. Why is the Idea of a fast car around here a Z28 with "Some of them 3 inch Flowmasters". Why do we have to be one of the only countries in the world with a, "No No! We can do it by ourselves, we don't need your help" attitude. It is because our forfathers decided to cut us off from the rest of the world that all the great cars that are available overseas cost an arm and a leg here. It just ticks me off that we have to be so high and mighty.
Not to get off on a rant or anything, I just want a skyline so bad I think about it constantly and had to lash out at some one. Hell, it seems logical to me, right? :confused:
I'M PISSED AT OUR GOVERNMENT PAST AND PRESENT!!!!
Isolationism blows dogs for quarters.
I am sitting here at my computer, tucked away deep in the farmlands of Kentucky, looking at all the stunningly gorgous cars with specs that are just as stunning as the cars themselves wondering why. Why is the Idea of a fast car around here a Z28 with "Some of them 3 inch Flowmasters". Why do we have to be one of the only countries in the world with a, "No No! We can do it by ourselves, we don't need your help" attitude. It is because our forfathers decided to cut us off from the rest of the world that all the great cars that are available overseas cost an arm and a leg here. It just ticks me off that we have to be so high and mighty.
Not to get off on a rant or anything, I just want a skyline so bad I think about it constantly and had to lash out at some one. Hell, it seems logical to me, right? :confused:
GTS-4 Ben
10-17-2001, 10:04 PM
Good to see attitudes are changing. It's a good thing you have never seen one in real life, especially drove one... someone would really get hurt..
MmmM I love them. :D
MmmM I love them. :D
black019
11-03-2001, 06:40 PM
our isolationism has nothing to do with that fact that you cant get a skyline here.
Jay!
11-03-2001, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by black019
idiot. Care to explain why his comment warrants disrespect? :mad:
idiot. Care to explain why his comment warrants disrespect? :mad:
black019
11-03-2001, 06:57 PM
Im just kind of irritated by why people draw conclusions from things that are completely not related. imported cars cost more because there are import taxes to encourage the sales of domestic cars which is supposed to boost our economy at home. it has no reason to do with "our forfathers" cutting us off from the rest of the worlds cars. cars werent around when our forefathers founded our country.
I guess with the recent events, it bothers me to see people post stuff claiming that we are isolationist. maybe that was the truth during ww1.
I apologize to both of you for what I said and I'll edit the post. no harm done.
I guess with the recent events, it bothers me to see people post stuff claiming that we are isolationist. maybe that was the truth during ww1.
I apologize to both of you for what I said and I'll edit the post. no harm done.
Jay!
11-03-2001, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by black019
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I apologize to both of you for what I said and I'll edit the post. no harm done.Fair enough. Thank you. :)
If anything, he should be pissed at CARB. :rolleyes: I hate them. :devil:
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I apologize to both of you for what I said and I'll edit the post. no harm done.Fair enough. Thank you. :)
If anything, he should be pissed at CARB. :rolleyes: I hate them. :devil:
Gonthrax
11-04-2001, 10:27 PM
I see what you are getting at black, but IMHO part of the reason that the costs are so high IS because of our past attitude toward japan.
Holyterror
04-10-2002, 07:01 PM
I realise I am replying to a very old post, but it peaked my interest, so here goes...
Believe it or not, we (enthusiasts) who would love nothing more than to see the JDM Skyline, Fairlady, RX-7, and many others come to our shores, are a minority in America. Despite the "import craze" that took hold in the early 90s, there is still a large percentage of people in this country who will not allow anything foreign into their garages. And a lot of the so-called import crowd (full of ricers) is happy with their watered-down Civics and Integras. Japan exports a lot of vehicles to this country, and Japanese companies make a whole lot of cars right here. I am about an hour away from a Honda plant. Nissan is opening a new plant back in my home state next year. I don't think it's isolationism as much as it is consumer trends that keep nice cars out of the States. I can't count the number of times I've heard "No replacement for displacement". Americans, in general, do not like small-displacement turbocharged engines. There is still a sentiment in this country that all small foreign cars are cheap pieces of junk. There was a time when just about anything coming out of Japan was junk. Times have changed, but many people's minds have not.
If you'll remember, we did force Japan to open its ports, and we basically ushered them into the western world. The Japanese people exhibited an incredible tenacity for adapting to their new world order. By World War II, Japan had become an ever-expanding empire, developing it's own war machines and strategies, and succeeding. Of course, we all know they picked a fight with the wrong people, and the rest is history. I don't think there is much bad blood between our nations left over from WWII. Japan rebuilt, and our relationship started over. There are plenty of cultural differences between our countries, but we are good trade partners and, I would say, on quite friendly terms. We don't tax imports to death, and they don't jack prices through the roof either.
So if you need to blame someone, blame your neighbor who wakes you up with his Mustang GT, or the soccer mom bouncing all over the road in her Suburban. They form market trends which manufacturers are forced to conform to in order to stay profitable. Remember, in our country, commerce has more leverage over politics than vice versa. So if you want to know why we don't have any GT-Rs, follow the dollar signs.
Believe it or not, we (enthusiasts) who would love nothing more than to see the JDM Skyline, Fairlady, RX-7, and many others come to our shores, are a minority in America. Despite the "import craze" that took hold in the early 90s, there is still a large percentage of people in this country who will not allow anything foreign into their garages. And a lot of the so-called import crowd (full of ricers) is happy with their watered-down Civics and Integras. Japan exports a lot of vehicles to this country, and Japanese companies make a whole lot of cars right here. I am about an hour away from a Honda plant. Nissan is opening a new plant back in my home state next year. I don't think it's isolationism as much as it is consumer trends that keep nice cars out of the States. I can't count the number of times I've heard "No replacement for displacement". Americans, in general, do not like small-displacement turbocharged engines. There is still a sentiment in this country that all small foreign cars are cheap pieces of junk. There was a time when just about anything coming out of Japan was junk. Times have changed, but many people's minds have not.
If you'll remember, we did force Japan to open its ports, and we basically ushered them into the western world. The Japanese people exhibited an incredible tenacity for adapting to their new world order. By World War II, Japan had become an ever-expanding empire, developing it's own war machines and strategies, and succeeding. Of course, we all know they picked a fight with the wrong people, and the rest is history. I don't think there is much bad blood between our nations left over from WWII. Japan rebuilt, and our relationship started over. There are plenty of cultural differences between our countries, but we are good trade partners and, I would say, on quite friendly terms. We don't tax imports to death, and they don't jack prices through the roof either.
So if you need to blame someone, blame your neighbor who wakes you up with his Mustang GT, or the soccer mom bouncing all over the road in her Suburban. They form market trends which manufacturers are forced to conform to in order to stay profitable. Remember, in our country, commerce has more leverage over politics than vice versa. So if you want to know why we don't have any GT-Rs, follow the dollar signs.
black019
04-10-2002, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Holyterror
I realise I am replying to a very old post, but it peaked my interest, so here goes...
Believe it or not, we (enthusiasts) who would love nothing more than to see the JDM Skyline, Fairlady, RX-7, and many others come to our shores, are a minority in America. Despite the "import craze" that took hold in the early 90s, there is still a large percentage of people in this country who will not allow anything foreign into their garages. And a lot of the so-called import crowd (full of ricers) is happy with their watered-down Civics and Integras. Japan exports a lot of vehicles to this country, and Japanese companies make a whole lot of cars right here. I am about an hour away from a Honda plant. Nissan is opening a new plant back in my home state next year. I don't think it's isolationism as much as it is consumer trends that keep nice cars out of the States. I can't count the number of times I've heard "No replacement for displacement". Americans, in general, do not like small-displacement turbocharged engines. There is still a sentiment in this country that all small foreign cars are cheap pieces of junk. There was a time when just about anything coming out of Japan was junk. Times have changed, but many people's minds have not.
If you'll remember, we did force Japan to open its ports, and we basically ushered them into the western world. The Japanese people exhibited an incredible tenacity for adapting to their new world order. By World War II, Japan had become an ever-expanding empire, developing it's own war machines and strategies, and succeeding. Of course, we all know they picked a fight with the wrong people, and the rest is history. I don't think there is much bad blood between our nations left over from WWII. Japan rebuilt, and our relationship started over. There are plenty of cultural differences between our countries, but we are good trade partners and, I would say, on quite friendly terms. We don't tax imports to death, and they don't jack prices through the roof either.
So if you need to blame someone, blame your neighbor who wakes you up with his Mustang GT, or the soccer mom bouncing all over the road in her Suburban. They form market trends which manufacturers are forced to conform to in order to stay profitable. Remember, in our country, commerce has more leverage over politics than vice versa. So if you want to know why we don't have any GT-Rs, follow the dollar signs.
I truly could not have said it better myself.
I realise I am replying to a very old post, but it peaked my interest, so here goes...
Believe it or not, we (enthusiasts) who would love nothing more than to see the JDM Skyline, Fairlady, RX-7, and many others come to our shores, are a minority in America. Despite the "import craze" that took hold in the early 90s, there is still a large percentage of people in this country who will not allow anything foreign into their garages. And a lot of the so-called import crowd (full of ricers) is happy with their watered-down Civics and Integras. Japan exports a lot of vehicles to this country, and Japanese companies make a whole lot of cars right here. I am about an hour away from a Honda plant. Nissan is opening a new plant back in my home state next year. I don't think it's isolationism as much as it is consumer trends that keep nice cars out of the States. I can't count the number of times I've heard "No replacement for displacement". Americans, in general, do not like small-displacement turbocharged engines. There is still a sentiment in this country that all small foreign cars are cheap pieces of junk. There was a time when just about anything coming out of Japan was junk. Times have changed, but many people's minds have not.
If you'll remember, we did force Japan to open its ports, and we basically ushered them into the western world. The Japanese people exhibited an incredible tenacity for adapting to their new world order. By World War II, Japan had become an ever-expanding empire, developing it's own war machines and strategies, and succeeding. Of course, we all know they picked a fight with the wrong people, and the rest is history. I don't think there is much bad blood between our nations left over from WWII. Japan rebuilt, and our relationship started over. There are plenty of cultural differences between our countries, but we are good trade partners and, I would say, on quite friendly terms. We don't tax imports to death, and they don't jack prices through the roof either.
So if you need to blame someone, blame your neighbor who wakes you up with his Mustang GT, or the soccer mom bouncing all over the road in her Suburban. They form market trends which manufacturers are forced to conform to in order to stay profitable. Remember, in our country, commerce has more leverage over politics than vice versa. So if you want to know why we don't have any GT-Rs, follow the dollar signs.
I truly could not have said it better myself.
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