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91CRXTC
05-19-2008, 02:07 PM
Will honda come out with a new CR-X?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/crx-timeline2.jpg

KoDKingVegeta
05-19-2008, 04:04 PM
If thats a new CRX thats SWEET!

Tony
05-20-2008, 12:24 AM
I think it is called the CR-Z this go around. They have had it up on the Honda site for a long time now, under their prototypes.

Ones&zeros
05-20-2008, 02:30 AM
compact renaissance zero

91CRXTC
05-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Yes i knew about the CR-Z i wanted to see if there was any CR-X enthusiasts that really were enthusiasts and some of you proved u are and as a reward to them i give you these.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/am0710014.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/am0710004.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/am0710002.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/am0710001.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/77470518.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/91crxtc/am0710006.jpg

And to the rest....who cares about you, you just get lucky to see these.

As for me, im going to do what ever it takes to get one ASAP though they wont be out in Japan till 2009 and maybe in North America in 2010 or 2011.

Tony
05-20-2008, 10:16 AM
Can I trade my reward for something else? I'm not even that big of a CRX enthusiast, just a Honda Junky. I just want the seats out of it.

FrodoGT
05-21-2008, 12:23 AM
I like the first one better. Basically a photoshop of an insight but I like it 100x better. Although I know its a concept and will lose 80% of the stuff on it the cr-z is a cool looking car but not a crx. Plus its a hybrid which isnt bad. But I dont see tuning potential lol.

91CRXTC
05-21-2008, 07:33 AM
I think the first one looks like a PShop of the new civic more then an insight. And they probably wont have much for the tuning aspect of it, but i still want to be the first one on the block to have one just cuz its still a CR- what ever you want to call it. Also nothing wrong with saving gas and the environment.

FrodoGT
05-21-2008, 10:10 AM
Not that its a slouch. Its supposed to have some hybrid balls lol.

91CRXTC
05-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Still gonna be a gaser but with electric motor things also, im not that learned in that field yet but workin on it.

Christ
05-21-2008, 05:53 PM
Bet a dollar it's the first production platform for GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) engines, will be a hybrid, and will post an EPA rated 50-60 MPG.

Will not (most likely) be available in 5 or 6 speed, however, the likely options include Auto 5 and CVT (like the new Altima).

The most outreaching feature of all this is GDI... which is a fuel system apparently similar to MPFI, except more like Diesel Injection with gasoline, wherein the fuel is injected directly into the cylinder, which (according to Honda R&D) helps to atomize the fuel, allowing (according to Honda R&D) for a "higher compression ratio, coupled with a signifigantly less than Stoichiometric A/F ratio", apparently something more like 60:1. Obviously, there would be notable increases in fuel economy.

In closing, "Who's the CRX enthusiast now?" lol.

Christ
05-21-2008, 05:54 PM
Oh... and I still maintain that it looks like work boot.

FrodoGT
05-22-2008, 12:57 AM
LMAO. work boot. Oh and btw the mazdaspeed3 is a DISI direct injected engine.

91CRXTC
05-22-2008, 08:48 AM
Addmittedly i have been out of the honda scene way too long. I guess im not much of an enthusiast myself...

Christ
05-22-2008, 06:44 PM
I'm liking the idea of a GDI engine, but on the same note, I wanna see how much power increases that one could get by using it... I mean, it's basically a way to increase the compression like crazy, and run less fuel doing it.

Christ
05-22-2008, 06:45 PM
BTW, a "friend" at a honda dealer told me to today that it would probably have a variation of the strange R18 that apparently can't be upgraded very easily.

FrodoGT
05-23-2008, 02:29 AM
when the hell are we gonna see the infinitely variable vtec that honda has held a patent on for years?

Christ
05-23-2008, 06:21 PM
Honda holds a patent on it... but it's "impracticable" in reality.

The prototype involves solenoid driven, ECU timed valves, rather than a cam... this reduces drag on the engine as well, and reduces rotating mass inside the engine.

The infinitely variable part comes from the fact that lift and duration are both controlled by electrical current to a solenoid, rather than force imposed by a solid "lobe" that can't change shape.

FrodoGT
05-23-2008, 06:26 PM
I think were thinking of different designs. The one ive seen is not electrically driven, but relies on an eccentric cam shaped piece that rotates and adjusts the leverage and throw of the valves.

Christ
05-23-2008, 07:24 PM
indeed we are... I was thinking of a design that has also been patented, but not by honda.. the design has yet to be perfected, due to the complex circuitry and programming involved, not to mention the amount of parts, and the design aspect of integrating them.

Christ
05-23-2008, 07:27 PM
and the one that youre thinking of is a variation of a long used ferrari cam system,in which the cam doesn't have hard "profiles", instead, it has continuous lobes for each "lobe" that change in size, thus changing lift and duration and ramp speed based on engine RPM and (possibly) throttle modulation.

FrodoGT
05-24-2008, 02:43 AM
voila

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/17/honda-files-advanced-vtec-patent/

Christ
05-24-2008, 09:48 PM
the basic idea there... lol... is laughable.. I can imagine the rebuild time involved in a head w/ that shit in it... I much prefer the ferrari cam system, second only to the solenoid controlled valve idea... which still doesn't work.

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