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Lowering questions


wood247
03-04-2003, 06:43 PM
Hey guys... Can anyone explain to me the process of lowering my car? Like, what parts do I need, what needs to be done, and what do the parts do? (Shocks, Springs, Adjusters, etc...?) I'm still tryin to learn my share of stuff, and I'd like to get to know this part. Thanks!

B16EJ1
03-04-2003, 06:47 PM
It all depends on your budget. If you got cash and want to do it right,Get a full coil-over kit like Tein or Buddyclub. If you have a limited budget Get some reg. coil-overs and adjustable gas shocks. And if you have any left over get a camber kit too.

wood247
03-04-2003, 08:17 PM
Alright, so what do those things do? A full coil over kit? And what will gas shocks do? And what do you mean by adjustable? It can be adjusted easily? Thanks!

B16EJ1
03-04-2003, 08:30 PM
Okay, a full coil-over kit are gas shocks with coilovers built on them. Basically a total package but expensive. You could buy coilovers seperate from the gas shocks which would be cheaper depending on what you buy. I never mentioned springs because I just love being able to lower and raise my car whenever I feel like it. You'd need shock's because when you lower on stock struts the ride quality sucks balls. Camber is kind of hard to explain on the comp. but here it goes . When you lower the top of your tires tilt into the wheel wells and fu**s up tire wear so to correct that you need the kit.

wood247
03-04-2003, 08:33 PM
So if I get the full lowering kit, I would be able to lower/raise how easily? Push of a button? How much for that full kit, and how much for the individual parts? And I obviously have to get it done somewhere, right? I wouldn't wanna fuck it up! haha

B16EJ1
03-04-2003, 09:19 PM
For your car. I know it will be kind of pricey either way. I have a friend w/ a 2001 civic coupe and it wasn't that cheap. Oh and coilovers are easy to lower and raise but not " push of a button easy". I'd say do some research for a good price on these things.

KrNxRaCer00
03-04-2003, 10:09 PM
coils, camber kit, shocks...

Oz
03-04-2003, 10:39 PM
1. Free - cut your springs (Oz does not recommend or endorse this. Don't sue me)

2. Very Inexpensive - If your not lowering much, just use lowered springs, but get a suspension specialist to make sure your shocks aren't resting on their bump stops.

3. Decent Job on a budget - Lowered shocks with different shocks or re-valved current shocks.

4. Getting Pricey - Gas Shocks and Lowering Springs

5. Coilovers and all the other things mentioned above (camber kits etc.)

:sun:
Oz

honciv1
03-05-2003, 06:45 AM
a couple people AT this one shop got coil overs...he bought them for 150 not to bad...

shepworldwide
03-05-2003, 06:47 AM
this is way to broad...use the search

or better yet.. how much money do you have or want to spend?

mattyoung33
03-06-2003, 03:24 AM
yeah this post is way to broad... but I like lowering springs/adjustable shocks. Im lowering my car tomorrow with eibach sportline springs/KYB AGX adjustable springs. Coilovers would be cooler to have, but i heard they dont give you the best ride compared to springs. others will say differently though.

black 00 civic dx
03-06-2003, 03:46 PM
well i saw all your posts here, and i threw some pep boys brand "coilovers" on my 00 civic coupe and it does ride like shit, took bumpstops off in rear because of clearance issues, friend helped me out and we did it all in about 3 hours, with use of his on-wall strut compressor, (love that thing) but no air tools, the apc (pep boys) springs ride like shit, i am looking at some agx shocks or tokicos but later on down line, camber kits are great, but some alignment shops wont touch lowered anythings, especially cuz some/all hondas dont have any camber adjustment, so i took to specialist aligner and he bent my front upper arms, and then put shims in between upper rear arm and body, my camber was -3 all around, now its perfect, dumped about 3" in front 3.5" in back, the alignment charged me 240 out the door, the springs were hot and 75, and the shocks are arond 300 for four, i wish i woulda known about the alignment before i lowered it, took a bunch off my tires, took like 2 months to find alignment shop just to look at my car... anyways, just letting u know about what i did, i dont know about those adjustable arms seen alot on ebay, ingalls spring and all that, try it see how it goes.. later

shepworldwide
03-06-2003, 04:02 PM
if your still using your stock shocks you should expect to have a good case of the hoppies:)

as far as getting the alignment done.. people will do anything for money :bandit:

for that price i would have bought a camber kit. just think now when you do change your shock you can bring it back to the alignment guy and pay another 3 bones to fix it again.. you shoulda just bought teins :p

P.S. don't tell people you bought HOT shit... makes you look like a thug..R U? and where is canoga park?
anyone missing some springs?:D

black 00 civic dx
03-06-2003, 04:34 PM
hey, started laughing when i read your post, far from thug, im a 18 yr old white kid that mom and dad hooked me with a 00 dx automatic civic, my friend worked at pep boys and he "acquired" the springs from "overstock" at "discounted" rates, canoga park is off 118 at topanga, off 101 at fallbrook, topanga,woodlake, or shoup and next to northridge, reseda, woodland hills, around there, so no one is missing springs, besides, pep boys wants 150 for those hoppie things, anyway, no no thugs over here, gotta go a couple miles east for that, and im in community college if that helps your perception, and a door to door salesman for a local newspaper, not a thug
later, ryan , and my names ryan, how many thugs are named ryan, cmon

black 00 civic dx
03-06-2003, 04:35 PM
oops, saw you in ma, talking like ur a californian, canoga park is in so cal

ryan

shepworldwide
03-06-2003, 07:04 PM
i was just f-in around..
nice to meet you and welcome to af :wave:
and your right..Ryan does sound like a pussy name ;) J/K

black 00 civic dx
03-06-2003, 10:57 PM
This was my original post about my current mods, but have a lot more stuff now so imma put it down and see how much its at now..
""""""""1) concept nine 17's with kumho 711's 650$
2) jensen deck mp5010k 230$ (wants alp cda7893 or pioneer 7400mp)
3) cp cold air intake 80$
4) pioneer ts1661 6 1/2's 70$
5) pioneer tsa6985 6x9's 20$ (go swap meet)
6) mtx 6000 12's (pair) 200$
7) coustic 601se amp (150w x 2 @ 4ohms, 150 CLEAN watts) 260$
8) two bass tubes for 12's (swap meet) 50$
9) 5% back tint and driver/passenger door windows 35% 115$
10) xtreme dynamat bulk kit 36 sq ft 130$ (ebay)
11) prestige alarm with two remotes 200$
12) apc adjustable coilovers 150$ retail at pepes' , paid 75$
13) lightning audio strike series digital capacitor 1 farad 100$
__________________________________________________

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$2180 TOTAL

SOON TO COME.
-greddy evo catback 500$
-aem adj. cam gear 100$
-projector headlights match painted to car (grenada black) 200$
-blitz body kit painted grenada black 500-600 plus painting
-the hood that looks like a 2000+ mustang hood with the scoop, i think its called terminator or something but i love it. 200$
-z3 metal or fiberglass fenders 200$ plus painting
-wouldnt mind power windows/locks, red neon tubes wired to trunk cuz civics dont have trunk lites (booty)""""""""

Now i have
1) concept nine 17's with kumho 711's 650$
Second set of kumho's : upgraded to 712's 335$
2) jensen h.u. mp5010k 230$
upgraded to pioneer deh-p840mp 360$
3) cp cold air intake 80$
4) pioneer ts1661 6 1/2's 70$
upgraded to tsa1667's 100$
5) pioneer tsa6985 6x9's (go swap meet) 20$
6) mtx 6000 12's (pair) 200$
now just one 6124, but in 3 cuft ported box, doubled output, no bass boost
7) coustic 601se amp (150w x 2 @ 4ohms, 150 CLEAN watts) 260$
8) two bass tubes for 12's (swap meet) 50$
ported box from neighbor , 30$
9) 5% back tint and driver/passenger door windows 35% 115$
10) xtreme dynamat bulk kit 36 sq ft 130$ (ebay)
11) prestige alarm with two remotes 200$
12) apc adjustable coilovers 150$ retail at pepes' , paid 75$
13) lightning audio strike series digital capacitor 1 farad 100$

14) Bent front control arms and inserted spacers in upper rear arms to correct after dumped 3" front 3.5" back 240$
15) New windshield after freeway crap put crack in it 180$
16) replacement black housing headlights (After crashed) 150$
17) replacement z3 fenders (after crash) 100$
18) apexi N1 catback exhaust 500$
19) aem adjustable cam gear (advanced 5 degrees cam) 100$
20) lo- jack (worked into monthly payments) 600$
21) Ractive ceramic header in 4 days, not dc/apexi/greddy because ractive makes them with two 02 bungs, wanted as boltup as possible, because this header is dumping straight in n1 exhaust, loud and smelly, going to smell like diesel truck behide me..and cuz ebay had brand new for 192.50 shipped, ill let u guys know how the install goes, and possible 5-0 checks from the law, thatll be great, "son, i dont see any catalytic converters on this vehicle" .... "uhh" anyways up into 5,000 into car i have had for 17,000 miles and 10months...500 per monht, lol so hows the modding scene in your area??? so cal is great when it comes to that, minus all the jacking that is happening here.. i am surprised my shit is all intact, i want some superleggera's , mmmm, like 13lb 17", so my soon plans are a manifold from turbomanifolds.com, with td-05 16g turbo , i hear it spools at 2k, full boost at 2.5k, sounds good, vortech fmu, but itll then imma gunna keep at the boring n/a life, throttle body with the next fat paycheck, some aem stuff, pulleys,rail,fpr,filter, thats 550 just for aem shit... anyways, lemme know how your modding is going, ryan

B16EJ1
03-07-2003, 12:40 AM
Why didn't you just swap the motor out and tranny out??? :confused:

shepworldwide
03-07-2003, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by B16EJ1
Why didn't you just swap the motor out and tranny out??? :confused:

i agree.. why not a swap?

got pics?

black 00 civic dx
03-07-2003, 04:26 PM
i want a b16a in there , but cant save money in large amounts, bad saving techniques, but its automatic now, so i gotta do all that auto-manual crap and not ready for that much bumming rides off people for as long as that project takes,

ryan , p.s. i hope the pic shows

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