AWD transfer case interchangeability
D Boz
04-25-2008, 10:23 AM
A friends '98 Safari needs the t-case rebuilt and I figured it would be much easier to swap in a used one. Are all the Astro/Safari AWD cases the same from year to year? What years? Anything else to watch for when trying to find one? Thanks in advance
Derek
Derek
Steve47
05-04-2008, 07:46 PM
Can you tell me why the transfer case needs a rebuild? What are the symptoms to make him believe this?
Blue Bowtie
05-04-2008, 10:06 PM
Transfer case chains, sprockets, oil pumps, and clutches are available almost anywhere you can find transmission parts.
D Boz
05-05-2008, 06:40 PM
Can you tell me why the transfer case needs a rebuild? What are the symptoms to make him believe this?
It was taken into a dealer with what seemed like a driveline vibe. The dealer said the viscous coupler was seized and quoted 5k to repair (obviously that is outrageous and nobody I know will ever set foot in there again). I did get to see it disassembled and bearings, gears etc. appear to be in decent shape. I dont even know that these cases have a real viscous coupler, but what ever the device is that allows the front/rear bias did not turn and the tech said it was supposed to.
It was taken into a dealer with what seemed like a driveline vibe. The dealer said the viscous coupler was seized and quoted 5k to repair (obviously that is outrageous and nobody I know will ever set foot in there again). I did get to see it disassembled and bearings, gears etc. appear to be in decent shape. I dont even know that these cases have a real viscous coupler, but what ever the device is that allows the front/rear bias did not turn and the tech said it was supposed to.
D Boz
05-05-2008, 06:44 PM
Transfer case chains, sprockets, oil pumps, and clutches are available almost anywhere you can find transmission parts.
I dont doubt the parts can be found or my ability to rebuild it, I just think it would be easier and cheaper to swap in a complete, used case. The Chevy dealer quoted $1100 for one part alone the claim its going to require :headshake
I dont doubt the parts can be found or my ability to rebuild it, I just think it would be easier and cheaper to swap in a complete, used case. The Chevy dealer quoted $1100 for one part alone the claim its going to require :headshake
Blue Bowtie
05-07-2008, 11:36 PM
A 1998 Astro should have a Borg-Warner 1372 transfer case. Applications should be:
1990-1998 Astro & Safari
1991-1992 Syclone / 1992-1993 Typhoon
1991-1997 Bravada
Some places have warranted rebuilds available, such as this one (http://www.drivetrain.com/transfercaseapp.html)
1990-1998 Astro & Safari
1991-1992 Syclone / 1992-1993 Typhoon
1991-1997 Bravada
Some places have warranted rebuilds available, such as this one (http://www.drivetrain.com/transfercaseapp.html)
D Boz
05-08-2008, 02:55 PM
A 1998 Astro should have a Borg-Warner 1372 transfer case. Applications should be:
1990-1998 Astro & Safari
1991-1992 Syclone / 1992-1993 Typhoon
1991-1997 Bravada
Some places have warranted rebuilds available, such as this one (http://www.drivetrain.com/transfercaseapp.html)
Thats the info I was looking for. Thanks.
Derek
1990-1998 Astro & Safari
1991-1992 Syclone / 1992-1993 Typhoon
1991-1997 Bravada
Some places have warranted rebuilds available, such as this one (http://www.drivetrain.com/transfercaseapp.html)
Thats the info I was looking for. Thanks.
Derek
D Boz
05-10-2008, 12:39 PM
From that link:
1990-95 DTS100 BW1372 or BW4472 4.13 Front output, Mounting Flange 27 spline rear output, 4.5" Front output circular yoke, AWD
1996-1998 DTS101 BW1372 or BW4472 27 spline rear output, 4.90 front output mounting flange
Are the actual output shafts different lengths? If I were to find a '90-'95 version instead, I would assume I can just change the front output yoke to the flange that is currently on it. The rear ouput on this '98 is a slip-yoke, and it appears that the earlier versions are flanged. Can anybody confirm this? If so, I would guess it takes complete disassembly to switch the rear ouputs, which defeats the purpose of trying to make this easy.
Lots of questions, I know. Basically, what would it take to use the '90-'95 version in a '98
Thanks,
Derek
1990-95 DTS100 BW1372 or BW4472 4.13 Front output, Mounting Flange 27 spline rear output, 4.5" Front output circular yoke, AWD
1996-1998 DTS101 BW1372 or BW4472 27 spline rear output, 4.90 front output mounting flange
Are the actual output shafts different lengths? If I were to find a '90-'95 version instead, I would assume I can just change the front output yoke to the flange that is currently on it. The rear ouput on this '98 is a slip-yoke, and it appears that the earlier versions are flanged. Can anybody confirm this? If so, I would guess it takes complete disassembly to switch the rear ouputs, which defeats the purpose of trying to make this easy.
Lots of questions, I know. Basically, what would it take to use the '90-'95 version in a '98
Thanks,
Derek
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