need quick answer...what should be my nexy mod?
whiteracer
03-02-2003, 12:00 AM
I have a '98 civic with nothing but the stock engine with the exception of an AEM CAI. I don't want to spend thousands, but i want to find what should be my next mod that i'll get my money's worth for. Do sport headers do anything but look good? I'll spend a couple hundred if i need too. Anyone got any ideas for more hp for my car?
Neutrino
03-02-2003, 12:24 AM
i say go with an lsd or a suspension upgrade.
whiteracer
03-02-2003, 12:28 AM
what's an lsd? my car's already been lowered 3" by the guy i bought the car from. Anything related to air or fuel mods that i should look into?
Wiseguy
03-02-2003, 01:19 AM
lsd = limited slip differential
how about a small shot of nitrous? like a zex dry kit
how about a small shot of nitrous? like a zex dry kit
Self
03-02-2003, 02:36 AM
Small n2o shot or exhaust.
GTi-VR6_A3
03-02-2003, 02:54 AM
put a big wing on it. some stickers. an empty oxygen tank. then sell it to some stupid kitd and buy an integra type R. i would say get the lsd and suspension upgrades. then cat back. but i like my first idea better. skip the n2o. botles are for babies... real men get blown
-GTi-VR6_A3
-GTi-VR6_A3
civickiller
03-02-2003, 04:22 AM
well i would say either a header, cat back exhaust, or a cam
whiteracer
03-02-2003, 10:18 AM
if i got a cat back exhaust system, would i have to get rid of the muffler i have right now? how much more of an increase in hp would i get? how much does it cost?
what about cams?
i dont want to spend too much, and i might be going to the shop later today so any more answers right now would help.
Do sport headers do anything but look good?
what about cams?
i dont want to spend too much, and i might be going to the shop later today so any more answers right now would help.
Do sport headers do anything but look good?
SleeperCivic
03-02-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
botles are for babies... real men get blown
-GTi-VR6_A3
I FREAKIN LOVE IT!!! :flash: :flash: I'm going to use that for my siggy...
botles are for babies... real men get blown
-GTi-VR6_A3
I FREAKIN LOVE IT!!! :flash: :flash: I'm going to use that for my siggy...
SilverY2KCivic
03-02-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by whiteracer
if i got a cat back exhaust system, would i have to get rid of the muffler i have right now? how much more of an increase in hp would i get? how much does it cost?
what about cams?
i dont want to spend too much, and i might be going to the shop later today so any more answers right now would help.
Do sport headers do anything but look good?
A full cat-back exhaust replaces you're current exhaust sustem right up to the catalytic converter, hence the name "cat-back." Depending on which one you get, like an A'PEXi or DC Sports or GReddy, you should see some minimal HP increases, maybe by as much as 5hp. You won't see phenominal gains from one unless you have some tuned cams, and a nice header to hook up to it, oh and no cat converter too of course since those really hurt power performance. ;) I have an A'PEXi World Sport cat-back exhaust on my car, and I love it! A'PEXi says it'll increase mid end to high end responsiveness and power, and I have noticed those increases, not as much as I might if I had a header, but it's is better than stock. System set me back only $385.
A header WILL help you out, but not very much unless you have a good exhaust system to go along with it, and you're fuel system upgraded (intake manifold, cam upgrade, larger fuel rail, larger injectors...) Everything is relative to eachother when comes to under hood stuff.
if i got a cat back exhaust system, would i have to get rid of the muffler i have right now? how much more of an increase in hp would i get? how much does it cost?
what about cams?
i dont want to spend too much, and i might be going to the shop later today so any more answers right now would help.
Do sport headers do anything but look good?
A full cat-back exhaust replaces you're current exhaust sustem right up to the catalytic converter, hence the name "cat-back." Depending on which one you get, like an A'PEXi or DC Sports or GReddy, you should see some minimal HP increases, maybe by as much as 5hp. You won't see phenominal gains from one unless you have some tuned cams, and a nice header to hook up to it, oh and no cat converter too of course since those really hurt power performance. ;) I have an A'PEXi World Sport cat-back exhaust on my car, and I love it! A'PEXi says it'll increase mid end to high end responsiveness and power, and I have noticed those increases, not as much as I might if I had a header, but it's is better than stock. System set me back only $385.
A header WILL help you out, but not very much unless you have a good exhaust system to go along with it, and you're fuel system upgraded (intake manifold, cam upgrade, larger fuel rail, larger injectors...) Everything is relative to eachother when comes to under hood stuff.
GTi-VR6_A3
03-02-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by SleeperCivic
I FREAKIN LOVE IT!!! :flash: :flash: I'm going to use that for my siggy...
got that from my supra loving friend. good quote i think.
-GTi-VR6_A3
I FREAKIN LOVE IT!!! :flash: :flash: I'm going to use that for my siggy...
got that from my supra loving friend. good quote i think.
-GTi-VR6_A3
inferno
03-02-2003, 03:52 PM
If you know what you are doing, there is nothing wrong with a nitrous system. I personally prefer turbos, but nitrous is a good alternative if done properly.
jcrx
03-02-2003, 07:04 PM
Het Whiteracer,what model civic do you have?
whiteracer
03-02-2003, 07:06 PM
'98 EX
jcrx
03-02-2003, 07:24 PM
Ok,it's just funny that no one asked,before telling you what a good mod would be.I would say it depends,are you looking for just better performance in general or do you like trying to take down everyone that revs on you?For just a improvment in your performance I would suggest one of two routes.The first was mentioned before,suspension.You really should look at this as the best performance upgrade you can do,since it is the basis for your cars handling,and ability to deal with power.The other would be a header/exhaust combo since really neither can be fully realized without the other.It is like putting a bigger fuel rail,without adding bigger injectors,pointless.If you want instant power that isn't going to kill your stock engine (with some responsibility) get a small shot of n2o,it really is the best bang for the buck.Anyway this is my opinion,if you really want to see a big performance gain save up some and swap out the motor,but like I said that is M.O.
Self
03-03-2003, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
skip the n2o. botles are for babies... real men get blown
-GTi-VR6_A3
Hahah, I can live with being called a baby....A baby with an extra 250hp in my trunk, 700rwhp, and a 10 second quarter-mile slip:D
skip the n2o. botles are for babies... real men get blown
-GTi-VR6_A3
Hahah, I can live with being called a baby....A baby with an extra 250hp in my trunk, 700rwhp, and a 10 second quarter-mile slip:D
GTi-VR6_A3
03-03-2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Self
Hahah, I can live with being called a baby....A baby with an extra 250hp in my trunk, 700rwhp, and a 10 second quarter-mile slip:D
as long as we are al;l happy with what we have. i just love the sound of a v6 turbo spooiling up and the the BOV. hell even 4bangers sound good doing it.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Hahah, I can live with being called a baby....A baby with an extra 250hp in my trunk, 700rwhp, and a 10 second quarter-mile slip:D
as long as we are al;l happy with what we have. i just love the sound of a v6 turbo spooiling up and the the BOV. hell even 4bangers sound good doing it.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Self
03-03-2003, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
as long as we are al;l happy with what we have. i just love the sound of a v6 turbo spooiling up and the the BOV. hell even 4bangers sound good doing it.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Oh goodness yes...Turbo sounds good on anything. The bigger the better. Just not a cost effective route...For me anyways. I started down that path actually, of turbo'ing my Z28 and quickly got out of it after I had dropped about $2k into it and realized I had about another $5k to go:eek: :(
as long as we are al;l happy with what we have. i just love the sound of a v6 turbo spooiling up and the the BOV. hell even 4bangers sound good doing it.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Oh goodness yes...Turbo sounds good on anything. The bigger the better. Just not a cost effective route...For me anyways. I started down that path actually, of turbo'ing my Z28 and quickly got out of it after I had dropped about $2k into it and realized I had about another $5k to go:eek: :(
GTi-VR6_A3
03-03-2003, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by Self
Oh goodness yes...Turbo sounds good on anything. The bigger the better. Just not a cost effective route...For me anyways. I started down that path actually, of turbo'ing my Z28 and quickly got out of it after I had dropped about $2k into it and realized I had about another $5k to go:eek: :(
ouch thats alot. but you know it would have been much more fun. :D :D :D i want a turbo corrado with 4 motion but all of that together will eb about 8-9k plus car. its a dream what can i say. but im gunna offer my gf's neighbor to buy his semi beat up but still very nice corrado one of these days.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Oh goodness yes...Turbo sounds good on anything. The bigger the better. Just not a cost effective route...For me anyways. I started down that path actually, of turbo'ing my Z28 and quickly got out of it after I had dropped about $2k into it and realized I had about another $5k to go:eek: :(
ouch thats alot. but you know it would have been much more fun. :D :D :D i want a turbo corrado with 4 motion but all of that together will eb about 8-9k plus car. its a dream what can i say. but im gunna offer my gf's neighbor to buy his semi beat up but still very nice corrado one of these days.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Self
03-03-2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
ouch thats alot. but you know it would have been much more fun. :D :D :D i want a turbo corrado with 4 motion but all of that together will eb about 8-9k plus car. its a dream what can i say. but im gunna offer my gf's neighbor to buy his semi beat up but still very nice corrado one of these days.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Yeah, it was going to be a hefty hefty tab, unfortunately. It would have been great, for the simple fact that I would have been one of very very few to have a turbocharged v8 Camaro. But oh well...maybe some day. A dream, like you said. I have a friend with a Corrado. Has an exhaust on it, that's it. But I like 'em:)
ouch thats alot. but you know it would have been much more fun. :D :D :D i want a turbo corrado with 4 motion but all of that together will eb about 8-9k plus car. its a dream what can i say. but im gunna offer my gf's neighbor to buy his semi beat up but still very nice corrado one of these days.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Yeah, it was going to be a hefty hefty tab, unfortunately. It would have been great, for the simple fact that I would have been one of very very few to have a turbocharged v8 Camaro. But oh well...maybe some day. A dream, like you said. I have a friend with a Corrado. Has an exhaust on it, that's it. But I like 'em:)
GTi-VR6_A3
03-03-2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Self
Yeah, it was going to be a hefty hefty tab, unfortunately. It would have been great, for the simple fact that I would have been one of very very few to have a turbocharged v8 Camaro. But oh well...maybe some day. A dream, like you said. I have a friend with a Corrado. Has an exhaust on it, that's it. But I like 'em:)
that would have been one hell of a scary ass ride. personally i think you should still save and try for it. and yeah corrado's are kool IMHO. and they handle great. only downside is the fwd but that can be looked past. and the whole 4motion or syncro idea fixes that.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Yeah, it was going to be a hefty hefty tab, unfortunately. It would have been great, for the simple fact that I would have been one of very very few to have a turbocharged v8 Camaro. But oh well...maybe some day. A dream, like you said. I have a friend with a Corrado. Has an exhaust on it, that's it. But I like 'em:)
that would have been one hell of a scary ass ride. personally i think you should still save and try for it. and yeah corrado's are kool IMHO. and they handle great. only downside is the fwd but that can be looked past. and the whole 4motion or syncro idea fixes that.
-GTi-VR6_A3
Self
03-03-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
and the whole 4motion or syncro idea fixes that.
-GTi-VR6_A3
And that is...heheh, don't think I'm familiar with that??
and the whole 4motion or syncro idea fixes that.
-GTi-VR6_A3
And that is...heheh, don't think I'm familiar with that??
GTi-VR6_A3
03-03-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by Self
And that is...heheh, don't think I'm familiar with that??
4 motion is the current vw awd tcs system. truly an engineering masterpiece. syncro is the older awd system used by vw. deakins knows way more than i do though. i just klnow it can be done with $$$
-GTi-VR6_A3
And that is...heheh, don't think I'm familiar with that??
4 motion is the current vw awd tcs system. truly an engineering masterpiece. syncro is the older awd system used by vw. deakins knows way more than i do though. i just klnow it can be done with $$$
-GTi-VR6_A3
whiteracer
03-03-2003, 09:56 AM
so...uh....should i go with a turbo or a cat back exhaust?
SilverY2KCivic
03-03-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by whiteracer
so...uh....should i go with a turbo or a cat back exhaust?
If you can afford it, then turbo for sure!
so...uh....should i go with a turbo or a cat back exhaust?
If you can afford it, then turbo for sure!
jcrx
03-03-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic
If you can afford it, then turbo for sure!
If he gets a turbo he going to need to get a exhaust anyway or he'll be choking the hell out of his motor.
If you can afford it, then turbo for sure!
If he gets a turbo he going to need to get a exhaust anyway or he'll be choking the hell out of his motor.
Self
03-03-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by jcrx
If he gets a turbo he going to need to get a exhaust anyway or he'll be choking the hell out of his motor.
True, but if you can afford it, still turbo. Exhaust - 5hp, Turbo - 50+hp, Turbo+Exhaust - 70+hp. The choice is obvious...if you can afford it, get them both at the same time. If you can only afford one of the other though, get the turbo and worry about the exhaust later.
If he gets a turbo he going to need to get a exhaust anyway or he'll be choking the hell out of his motor.
True, but if you can afford it, still turbo. Exhaust - 5hp, Turbo - 50+hp, Turbo+Exhaust - 70+hp. The choice is obvious...if you can afford it, get them both at the same time. If you can only afford one of the other though, get the turbo and worry about the exhaust later.
jcrx
03-03-2003, 03:31 PM
If he's got $1400+ to spend on a turbo,then affording a exhaust shouldn't even be a question.Not to mention he originally stated he would spend "a couple of hundred" if he needed to.It's a big jump from $200 to $1400+ haha.I still stand by suspension and either full exhaust or a small n2o shot.
Self
03-04-2003, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by jcrx
If he's got $1400+ to spend on a turbo,then affording a exhaust shouldn't even be a question.Not to mention he originally stated he would spend "a couple of hundred" if he needed to.It's a big jump from $200 to $1400+ haha.I still stand by suspension and either full exhaust or a small n2o shot.
Agreed...I say go for the nitrous as well. Although that would put you in just as much need of an exhaust as a turbo does...But still, n2o gets my vote.
If he's got $1400+ to spend on a turbo,then affording a exhaust shouldn't even be a question.Not to mention he originally stated he would spend "a couple of hundred" if he needed to.It's a big jump from $200 to $1400+ haha.I still stand by suspension and either full exhaust or a small n2o shot.
Agreed...I say go for the nitrous as well. Although that would put you in just as much need of an exhaust as a turbo does...But still, n2o gets my vote.
GTi-VR6_A3
03-04-2003, 02:02 AM
with the money your lookin to spend i say you do a little bit of suspension work and get it ready for some scca auto-x kuz hell thats always good fun and its probably the only place that a metro can beat a diablo. gota love the driver aspect.
-GTi-VR6_A3
-GTi-VR6_A3
jcrx
03-04-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3
with the money your lookin to spend i say you do a little bit of suspension work and get it ready for some scca auto-x kuz hell thats always good fun and its probably the only place that a metro can beat a diablo. gota love the driver aspect.
-GTi-VR6_A3 THis is true,a good suspension setup can take it in autoX.A stock CX with a competent driver and good handling can do way better than anyone thinks on a course.
with the money your lookin to spend i say you do a little bit of suspension work and get it ready for some scca auto-x kuz hell thats always good fun and its probably the only place that a metro can beat a diablo. gota love the driver aspect.
-GTi-VR6_A3 THis is true,a good suspension setup can take it in autoX.A stock CX with a competent driver and good handling can do way better than anyone thinks on a course.
contoursvt
06-01-2003, 01:44 PM
nitrous is a good upgrade but you have to make your motor ready for it nitrous without certain other upgrades could ruin the small civic motor. first thing I would do to an ex is headers and exhaust.
4bngr
06-01-2003, 05:39 PM
I personally would go with a GUDE head package, it comes with a decked, ported, and polished head, a GUDE cam, Throttle body, and an ECu, claimed to add over 50hp.
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