New Duals Pics

In one of the forums about headers the conversation went to crossmembers and I had mentioned I bought a crossmember from Bowtie Overdrives and said i was putting headers and duals on my 91 wagon. So here are some pics of the exhaust and the crossmember for those wondering how the duals fit with this crossmember.


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that rust!!!!!

Yeak mine's the same way with the rust underneith... thats why I stopped driving mine in the winter. Salt will eat up a car like nothing. Thats probably what all the white is in the pictures. At least the body's all good.

By the way, how much did that tranny crossmember cost?

Did you have to bend up your drivers side floorboard for that crossmember? It appears they still had to bend the pipes down a little to clear the crossmember too, is the arch on this aftermarket xmember not as extreme as a stock dual crossmember out of a later model Caprice (94-69 I believe)?

The xmember was 170 bucks and came with a tranny mount and all of the bolts for installation. The exhaust was bent to go underneath the xmember a little bit but that was because of the angle of the cutouts. There would have been ground clearence issues if they weren't bent. The floor on my car didn't have to be bent or modified at all to fit the xmember. As far as the difference with this xmember and the dual exhaust xmember i really don't know. I had alot of trouble finding a dual xmember from a stock car even though i had one about 4 months ago. This one was just a direct bolt up and easy to find so i went with it. I did have to put a few shims by the trans mount to get the driveshaft angle back to ideal but that could be done with a few washers.

I have to get pics of my new duals on here too, i dont think they had to bend my driver's side floor, but you can see they flattened the pipe instead on mine, if you look at my car from the rear under you can see the driver side pipe sticking down

where did you get that cross member

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In one of the forums about headers the conversation went to crossmembers and I had mentioned I bought a crossmember from Bowtie Overdrives and said i was putting headers and duals on my 91 wagon. So here are some pics of the exhaust and the crossmember for those wondering how the duals fit with this crossmember.

I got my dual exhaust done last week and was really happy with the work the exhaust shop did. After lots of ideas about what to do crossmember wise this shop came up with the best idea I'd heard.

I swapped my 200r4 for a 700r4 and in doing that swap I had to also change the crossmember (and driveline, all came from the same donor car). Well luckily I kept my 200r4 crossmember around and here's what the exhaust shop did: They cut my 700 crossmember just left of the trani-mount bracket. Then they took my 200 crossmember and cut it just right of the trani-mount bracket. Then they flipped it around and welded it to the 700 crossmember and put a couple new holes in the frame for the left side mount location and now I've got a nice dual hump crossmember and the pipes are tucked under nice and clean. I'll post pics once I get 'em.

What great idea!

I got my dual exhaust done last week and was really happy with the work the exhaust shop did. After lots of ideas about what to do crossmember wise this shop came up with the best idea I'd heard.

I swapped my 200r4 for a 700r4 and in doing that swap I had to also change the crossmember (and driveline, all came from the same donor car). Well luckily I kept my 200r4 crossmember around and here's what the exhaust shop did: They cut my 700 crossmember just left of the trani-mount bracket. Then they took my 200 crossmember and cut it just right of the trani-mount bracket. Then they flipped it around and welded it to the 700 crossmember and put a couple new holes in the frame for the left side mount location and now I've got a nice dual hump crossmember and the pipes are tucked under nice and clean. I'll post pics once I get 'em.

did the 200r4 go out ???

Yah the 200r4 was part of the 700r4 rebuild....some $$$ plus the 200r4 got me a rebuilt 700r4 that'll handle 400 hp.

Yah the 200r4 was part of the 700r4 rebuild....some $$$ plus the 200r4 got me a rebuilt 700r4 that'll handle 400 hp.
you like the gear ratio's in the 700 better ?

I can't really compare because the car never ran good when the 200 was in it anyway. The 700 I'm not 100% sure about yet either, one reason is it likes to do about 80 in overdrive, anything under 75 and it feels like it wants to downshift. I'm having the rearend rebuilt sometime in the near future so I'll probably counter that out, don't want no more speeding tickets just trying to get 15mpg's out of this thing.

For only 15 MPG you should hopefully get a whole lot of get up and go.

For only 15 MPG you should hopefully get a whole lot of get up and go.

i agree ,, i'd think 15 is low mpg

i agree ,, i'd think 15 is low mpg

Huh what's 15mpg? I would piss myself if i could get that. I get about 8-10 mpg depending on how my car wants to act :headshake

Oh it goes I'm not complaining. But when I'm on the freeway the rpm's are so low in OD when I'm doing about 70mph. At around 85mph the rpm's are at around 2 grand if I remember correctly. Last weekend on a rural highway I just had to see that needle climb on my police speedo and ended up getting a ticket for 109 in a 70. But man it sure seemed to like those triple digits! Maybe the cop was just a little jealous he had to get on it a bit more than usual in his Crown Vic to catch up to a Caprice :)

Huh what's 15mpg? I would piss myself if i could get that. I get about 8-10 mpg depending on how my car wants to act :headshake
i get 12-14 mpg with a 77 p/u

i get 12-14 mpg with a 77 p/u

Yea I know it's sad but maybe I'll figure out what's killing my mpg one day before I rip the car apart.

now thats steep gearing. (2000 at 80)
id guess you have a 3.08 rear
possibly lower but doubt it.

thats pretty cool though.
a steeper rear end would help a lot.
also check the tranny to make sure its ok.
it shouldnt be going much faster than 45 or so when it shifts into OD.
granted gearing makes a difference, but hey, thats a BIG difference.

now thats steep gearing. (2000 at 80)
id guess you have a 3.08 rear
possibly lower but doubt it.

thats pretty cool though.
a steeper rear end would help a lot.
also check the tranny to make sure its ok.
it shouldnt be going much faster than 45 or so when it shifts into OD.
granted gearing makes a difference, but hey, thats a BIG difference.

From a guy who has 3:08s in his Caprice, I'd say that if it's doing 2k at 80, you're likely closer to 2.93s.

That was just a uneducated guess with bad memory. I'll check tonight on my way home from work. I think I do have 3.08 gears. All I know for sure is it's not a posi (yet). I'll also check to see when it shifts into OD. Usually I'm in D getting on the freeway until I've got my position, then I sit back and throw it into OD.