New Member, New Car, Same Questions

aight, im getting a 1991 civ hatch std no DX or Si...it has 86,000 miles on the pussy 1.5L and a 4spd manual tran. I was wondering if 4spd trans are anygood?.........what are the pros and cons of the civic std 4 spd?.......also i plan on doing a swap when i get more money, jus put some more miles on the stock engine ya know. ohh yeah 1 more question, i don't think the car has power steering, ive never drove a car without power steering, how diff is it really?, thanks , peace

Welcome to the board...The pros are its a 4g...The cons are its a 1.5 4 speed. Dont worry about the power steering, while driving you really cant tell a difference.

Originally posted by Carnivore
aight, im getting a 1991 civ hatch std no DX or Si...it has 86,000 miles on the pussy 1.5L and a 4spd manual tran. I was wondering if 4spd trans are anygood?.........what are the pros and cons of the civic std 4 spd?.......also i plan on doing a swap when i get more money, jus put some more miles on the stock engine ya know. ohh yeah 1 more question, i don't think the car has power steering, ive never drove a car without power steering, how diff is it really?, thanks , peace

the 4 speed is for ecno daily driving :(. 86,000mi. is really good. i would recomend doing the MPFI conversion and picking up a Si tranny. it will almost be as good as having a Si :)

in my opinion, i like not having power steering in the hatch. i also have a LX with power steering. that thing feels so loosey goosey around the corners. of course not having power steering = sucks turning the wheel at a dead stop. roll a little and it's easier ;)

thanks for the fast replys, yeah im not to worryed now bout the power steering anyway, but i was wondering when i do the D16z6 swap with a Si tranny what ECU i need.

p28...comes out of the 92-95 Si/EX :D

welcome to the boards, the power steering thing is only an issue at dead stops like ami said, but you'll get used to it.


what part of NY are you from, i can reccommend a few shops for your swap.

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi


the 4 speed is for ecno daily driving :(. 86,000mi. is really good. i would recomend doing the MPFI conversion and picking up a Si tranny. it will almost be as good as having a Si :)

in my opinion, i like not having power steering in the hatch. i also have a LX with power steering. that thing feels so loosey goosey around the corners. of course not having power steering = sucks turning the wheel at a dead stop. roll a little and it's easier ;)

Women :rolleyes: I can make my steering wheel spin like a top with one hand... You need to get ur ass to a gym ami! To many potato chips and couch lounging has made you soft..... Pick up those 20 lb weaghts and start curlin. It will make life alot easier!

Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC


Women :rolleyes: I can make my steering wheel spin like a top with one hand... You need to get ur ass to a gym ami! To many potato chips and couch lounging has made you soft..... Pick up those 20 lb weaghts and start curlin. It will make life alot easier!

don't start with me. i promise i can lift more than most girls ;)

i was simply saying...some people say it's hard to turn at a dead stop. i've been driving hatches so long with no p/s i don't even notice :D

Yea, where in NY are you!?

Only time I notice the lack of power steering is when I'm parallel parking, the ratio's not very good so you have to turn it alot more than you would with a power steering rack but it'ls definitely not a problem to get used to.

The 4spd is stronger than any five speed will be just because of the nature of it, there's one less gear so they were able to make the other gears beefier. If you had more power it would be a pretty good gearbox really, 2nd gear is a little too tall and way too long but if you put some power behind it, it would be nice. The good part is it'll do 105 in third gear!!!!!!!! HEHEHEHEHE. the little d15b2 doesn't do too bad, it'll pull ya around, ya just gotta learn how to push it to the max, only problem is it will burn oil like crazy if you run it hard.

Yea, no powersteering isn't a problem, even at a dead stop. 86k miles isn't bad at all, mine had 179k, and starting to show problems. I can't really say anything on the 4spd, i got a dx and its got a 5th gear, but all it mainly is is overdrive, 5th gear does help me out any. And as red4thgencivic said, the d15b2 isn't that bad, good engine to learn how to push engines too their limits, i'm actually just startin to open mine up more, getting better on my shifts.

Yea, you will need the P28 ecu. I got a Z6 sittin in my garage just waiting to be worked on, got the trany with it and the p28 ecu. gotta get some money going.

OH yea, welcome :wave: sorry for the long post, i do that sometimes :D

im fron Albany, albany new york. How much is a clutch for the stn civic, cause it needs a new one, the dude that sold it to me said the clutch was high, put its worth puuting in the clutch cause of the low miles on it. Peace