Roll Cage/ Roll Bar

How do I get a roll cage? I'm not doing any serious racing, I just drive like a total idiot, and it's likely that I might put one to use.
Do you have to have one custom built? Can you buy one online? Do they come in little pieces, needing assembly or do they get shipped in a car-sized box?
If I can't get a roll cage (because I can't pay a fortune for one), how do I get a roll bar? Do I have to weld it in place, or would it bolt up to existing holes in the body? Can I put one in and still haul passengers and myself comfortably?
Would it TOTALLY tighten up the body-flex handling problem?
Just a big fat wad of questions. Please help!
Flunky

If you want a good one, get one custom made and WELDED in, bolt in ones suck.

Thanks, JMUNK!

....check out autopower's cages...they've got some decent bolt-in ones....and you can always weld-in a bolt-in..

Ok, here's a possibly stupid question. Do they make roll cages for 4dr's? :confused: It would be nice to have something like that for my sedan ( lord knows it might have helped when I spun the b#tch ).

I had one of those shitty :rolleyes: bolt in ones. But I never had a chance to test it out though.

The bolt in types are more for looks than function. A roll cage will stiffen up your car greatly. They give a car a nice tight feel.

Man i was thinking about gettin one of the bolt in roll cages.....but they add to much weight....which makes me slower.....to bad i allready added like 50 lbs. of stereo


gunnmen01

Originally posted by gunnmen01
Man i was thinking about gettin one of the bolt in roll cages.....but they add to much weight....which makes me slower.....to bad i allready added like 50 lbs. of stereo


gunnmen01


so uhhh... weld it air tight and fill it full of helium.

I ordered an Autopower Rollbar a few days ago. Haven't got it yet. Bolt in is no worse than weld in, and custom is not really going to be any better than a pre-made unless you go real crazy with it.

so uhhh... weld it air tight and fill it full of helium.


LOL....hehehehhe but i dont want it to float away????? enough helium should take care of the extra stereo weight too ...right???


gunnmen01

yeah and don't forget to chance the air in your tires every 3000 miles and adjust your muffler bearings...

and one of these days i'll break down and have my cus make me a custom one, he can do some bad ass work... he builds racecars heh

So on the realz... You think helium would lighten shit up? I actualy though about puting it in my tires before!

Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC
So on the realz... You think helium would lighten shit up? I actualy though about puting it in my tires before!

Ya, do that.. Make sure you tell us the results!

what's the point in getting a rollcage unless your auto + :confused: most of the accidents are in the front and side......don't see using them unless for show or have a convertable

If you get hit from the sides, it helps and if you get t boned usually cars roll over..... so this would help greatly..... but if they hit you hard enough for you to roll over, your probably dead from the impact......

The purpose of the ROLL BAR is incase your car ROLLS OVER the roof won't cave in and crush you to death.

Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
The purpose of the ROLL BAR is incase your car ROLLS OVER the roof won't cave in and crush you to death.

:bloated:

BE CAREFUL with your roll cage.

Yes they will help you in case of a roll over and a side impact if you add the door bars etc (Depends if you get a roll bar -from backs of front seats back to rear - or a full cage including door bars and A-pillars etc)

BUT you have added a new risk to your car - especially with a full cage or anything that extends beyond the front seating area. Cages are generally used with Helmets. Why? Because your noggin on impact isn't designed to smash into metal bars around your head. You can pad the bars but it is still a more risk. How much I don't know. Not sure how well the pads protect. You notice that even in a race car with helmeted drivers they pad the bars...

If people ride in the back seat they are at risk no matter if it is a bar or cage. I've know track junkies with bars that require anyone riding in the back seat (rare for them) to wear a helmet at all times. Plus any other body parts into crashing into cross members can't be good. Just more very hard surfaces there than before.

Something to think about. Be safe.

Brad

p.s. As a side note...I did see a civic like vehicle here around dallas. It was red and had a FULL yellow EXTERNAL cage. Now there is something you don't see every day!

Also while I am on a safety kick....Harnesses. If you are worried about roofs caving in (not sure on the stats of how often they fail in a roll-over) think about this. Harnesses are designed to hold you tightly to the seat and not allow you to slouch (submarine) or slide down in the event of a roll-over like stock seatbelts. Sooooo...if you roof caves in and you are wearing a harness that is keeping you upright (using a harness bar with no roll cage)....something has to give right? Goodbye head - RIP.

There are some (1 that I know of from Schroth - BMW application not sure about others) 4 point harnesses that do meet DOT approval as they have a section that tears away in an accident that extends the harness length allowing you to slide to the side in one direction. But otherwise...becare when installing these "safety" items that you realize all the implications and that these parts and pieces of systems may actually cause you greater injury.

Sorry...I'll try to quit channeling my parents.

Brad

Bolt ins are fine. In some racing classes they make you bolt rather than weld to keep people from using them as chassis stiffeners.

You'll want to pad anywhere a head or other body part can impact the cage. If you hit it you don't want it to be any worse than hitting any other part of the inside of your car.

Having rolled a car before I can attest to the fact it would have been nice for the roof to have stayed up when my side of the vehicle came in. I wasn't hurt bad. My brother was ejected and got a small cut on his thumb....that's all.

Rollovers are very surviveable. Just wear your seatbelt.

I have Schroths in my car. Very nice.

You don't need a roll bar for a 4 point harness to be good. See this example of my "office".
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/rollout/photos/k62397.html