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Why Fujimi Enzo Ferrari


ferrari2k
02-27-2008, 07:38 AM
Hi, today I found out, that Fujimi made a 1:24 Enzo Ferrari. Why is that? It is nearly the same price as the Tamiya Enzo, has no opening doors or engine cover and the engine itself is not as half as detailed as the Tamiya one. Just WHY did Fujimi make such a model, I cannot understand that...:confused: :sly:

Veyron
02-27-2008, 07:50 AM
You're a bit late to the party. As for me I just got the Fujimi kit and I assure you it will be built long before the Tamiya kits I have. When I open the box of the Tamiya kit and look at all those fiddly panels I close the box.

All modelers are not thrilled with opening panels and detail detail detail. Fujimi has offered a alternative for that reason, and it's better than Revell's.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=880614&highlight=fujimi+enzo

rockinanko
02-27-2008, 09:57 AM
well said veyron!
not everyone goes for details galore, some like it simple & fast...others like me, who wants everything that's possible & can be added in the model.

so if you look at it this way, you'll have the answer to why fujimi enzo & tamiya enzo appeared...for 2 groups of builders.

marc
SGP

ZoomZoomMX-5
02-27-2008, 10:07 AM
I guess some people like to complain because the world doesn't revolve around their ideal of the hobby.

The Fujimi kit is much less $$ than Tamiya's (2600 yen vs. 4000 yen). Not everyone wants to spend a gazillion hours detailing a Tamiya Enzo. The Tamiya body panels don't fit very well. The Revell Enzo is only a viable/cheap option for the US market. Yet carefully built it can look better on the shelf than Tamiya's kit because the body panels have uniform panel line cuts vs. Tamiya's varying panel line widths due to spotty fit issues. Tamiya's kit is best left open. In some respects that's the same opinion I have of the 1:1 :biggrin:

I have no real desire to build my Tamiya Enzo, my style of building doesn't require all that work when I can get what I want from the Revell kit. W/o the Revell kit I'd definitely get the Fujimi Enzo. I do look forward to building the Tamiya FXX and taking the challenge to get the damned doors and engine cover to fit properly. If Fujimi does an FXX I'll definitely get it to have a more enjoyable build. And that would be w/o any stupid $160 Acu Stion detail set...that's 10,000,000 times more crazy than Fujimi kitting the Enzo in the first place. Yes, I want some more Ferraris that haven't been done yet. The '57 Testa Rossa just got released...there is hope.

stevenoble
02-27-2008, 10:13 AM
I gave my opinion on this subject a while ago in another thread.But it's been answered here already.Simplicity wins.If you want a quick,easy build Enzo then the Fujimi offering is ideal.Need detail in abundance then go for the Tamiya kit and loads of aftermarket parts.Myself with the Enzo I just want a quick rendition of it without all the hassle of those fiddly opening doors and such.I like the Enzo,I want one on my shelf,but I'm not so mad about it that I want to spend hours detailing and building the Tamiya offering.

rockinanko
02-27-2008, 11:05 AM
I like the Enzo,I want one on my shelf,but I'm not so mad about it that I want to spend hours detailing and building the Tamiya offering.


MAD!?
let's put it this way...i found an interesting trend here in AF, those topics that concern builds of extreme detail lasted much longer than any other quick builds. forum participation runs so long & new modeling skills surfaced every now & then.

go around & ask our AF modelors, who doesn't know who's alex(spider360) & his ferrari builds!?

or can you recall better, who did a metallic green superamerica OOB not long ago?

it's this kinda uneven building 'styles' we all have that created demand for new materials or methods in added realism. i never heard of thin resin body shells, p/e parts or machined parts etc back 30 years ago...when i first started modeling!

so it's perfectly ok for those who want fast build & those who want a near real car detailing.

i opted for the latter, folks like me are no longer young & can afford to hastily build one model just for the shelf & then come back to rebuild the same car, abeit with better details, ideas/realism, later again.

so why not build an ultimate car(in your own capacity) which you can proudly & confidently say it's 'one of a kind' in this world, once & for all!?

think about it...


marc:confused:
SGP

ZoomZoomMX-5
02-27-2008, 11:33 AM
so why not build an ultimate car(in your own capacity) which you can proudly & confidently say it's 'one of a kind' in this world, once & for all!?

think about it...


marc:confused:
SGP

Why not? Because not everyone is in this hobby for that! Everyone should enjoy it at their own level. It's not about thread views or hits. Most people do aspire to do some super-detail work, to do some sort of ultimate build at some point. But in my many years of being in the hobby, some of the very best builders who have built some of the most detail-intensive models eventually disappear...they burn out from the hobby, and move on. A number of them take a much simpler approach to subsequent models. In a modeler's own eyes, the only thing that really matters is what satisfies them personally. If a builder enjoys churning out simple models, cool :smile: If they enjoy super-detailing everything to the hilt and having pages upon pages of progress and back-patting along the way, cool :smile: Or something in-between. There is room for everyone to enjoy the hobby at whatever level they feel comfortable.

vrossi85
02-27-2008, 12:17 PM
As for me, i love detailing greatly and its also my main source of joy in modeling, even though it can be really tiring and tedious during times, but the feeling of completing detailed model is definitely more satisfying from finishing just a OOB model. But thats just my own point of view. I usually choose models with great fame and recognition for detailing and therefore enzo is definitely not going to be built without it. I have to agree that some tamiya enzo parts does not fit nicely when straight OOB, but im sure it can be corrected with some effort put into them, cause i have seen one before. I also greatly understand that im still able to do this is partly because of my young age and i believe i may turn to just doing OOB models in the future. So i just hope to accomplish as many detailed models as possible during the time when i can still do so. :)

Anyway, this is my current enzo project, do drop some comments if possible, thanks! :)
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=879564

Ro

stevenoble
02-27-2008, 12:19 PM
MAD!?

I think you misunderstood me.When I say I'm not mad about the Enzo I mean as a subject for a model.Yes,I like it as a car but I meant it isn't my favorite car and I would rather spend a lot of time building and detailing a subject that I am really passionate about than one that I like but not so much.Yes,I want to build it but I don't like it enough to go mad on it and add every wire and use every photo etch detail set,resin and metal part,turned shock absorbers etc,you get the idea?

hirofkd
02-27-2008, 12:35 PM
Hi, today I found out, that Fujimi made a 1:24 Enzo Ferrari. Why is that? It is nearly the same price as the Tamiya Enzo, has no opening doors or engine cover and the engine itself is not as half as detailed as the Tamiya one. Just WHY did Fujimi make such a model, I cannot understand that...:confused: :sly: Fujimi's Enzo is priced 2600 yen (about 24USD or 16 Euro) while Tamiya's Enzo is 3800 yen (about 35USD or 24 Euro), so the simplified Fujimi kit costs a lot less. (FYI, Revell Germany's Enzo is about 4000 yen.)

A typical music CD is priced 3000 yen, so the Japanese modelers think of Fujimi's curbside Enzo kit as a sub-CD price range product, while Tamiya's Enzo costs a lot more than that. That's where Fujimi found its own market: simple curbside kit for an affordable price.

kingkai
02-27-2008, 04:36 PM
Pity another one of the same, imo... I'd rather see new models, which might fit into my street of car modeling.

stryfe101
02-27-2008, 04:53 PM
I'm happy about the fujimi kit, everytime I thought of buying a Tamiya one to build, I felt like I HAD to superdetail it...now I don't..


Gray

tonioseven
02-27-2008, 05:31 PM
I was gonna buy the Fujimi kit but I have the Revell kit. Hell, build what you want , the way you want it to be built. Geez. :runaround: We all have our own reasons for being in this hobby and we shouldn't be made to feel that what we build is any less of an enjoyable build because we don't spend $5000 (exaggeration) on a project. Don't knock anybody else for what they build or how they build it unless constructive criticism is the motive. instead of all of the complaints, go build a model. :2cents:

jmwallac
02-27-2008, 08:55 PM
Is curbside a crime? How about OOB?

I had a Camaro I was working on, but dreaded wedging the engine and the fiddly radaitor/firewall/suspension parts in. While test fitting the interior, I slapped the chassis on, glued the hood shut and WHOLA! a completed model. Felt nice.

Who goes up to a model and opens the hood to see what's in there? I was planning on a detailed racing interior and then looked at one of my completed race cars. Guess how much you can actually see? Rather than spending extra $$ on a PE harness, I'd rather buy another Revell.

jano11
02-28-2008, 06:19 PM
Fujimi's Enzo is priced 2600 yen (about 24USD or 16 Euro) while Tamiya's Enzo is 3800 yen (about 35USD or 24 Euro), so the simplified Fujimi kit costs a lot less. (FYI, Revell Germany's Enzo is about 4000 yen.)
The Revell only cots around 15€ in Europe! ;)
And the Tamiya one is around 40-50€ in the shops! :eek:

OPM
02-28-2008, 06:57 PM
all down to shipping, import taxes and also that the dealer of course wants to make a few bucks aswell. :) importing yourself is allways by far the cheapest option.

jano11
02-28-2008, 07:59 PM
all down to shipping, import taxes and also that the dealer of course wants to make a few bucks aswell. :) importing yourself is allways by far the cheapest option.

Yep, that' why I went the ebay way and got the Tamiya Enzo for 17€ inclusive EMS shipping from Japan! :D

Chuck Kourouklis
02-28-2008, 10:57 PM
Alright, first off, the Tamiya kit ain't that bad for closing panels. There's that little cannister just ahead of the right rear shock that interferes a bit with the cowl - just mount it lower - and the roof panel between the doors that you might want to realign from the location its pins dictate.

That's just about it. Really.

That said,

Hi, today I found out, that Fujimi made a 1:24 Enzo Ferrari. Why is that? It is nearly the same price as the Tamiya Enzo, has no opening doors or engine cover and the engine itself is not as half as detailed as the Tamiya one. Just WHY did Fujimi make such a model, I cannot understand that...:confused: :sly:

You kinda just answered your own question, bro. Tamiya did the superdetailed Enzo. Revell covered the very detailed option.

And that left a nice little curbside hole for Fujimi to occupy all by itself. It is distinct from the other two, and yup, I'm afraid it's the version most likely to get built.

C'est la vie. To each they own. Ferdy has his quad-turboed, 16-cylinder, 4-wheel-drive 4,000-lb pig to do over 200 with. Gordy has his far more elegant, 2700-lb V12 machine that does nearly the same, more than a decade before the fact of the two-ton pig.

But it's a fool's errand to say one is superior to the other.

:evillol:

And for the price premium, Fujimi had BETTER surpass Revell's kit, at least in mold processing if not overall detail. I'll be venturing some input on that soon as I get mine...

davezilla
02-29-2008, 01:13 AM
A typical music CD is priced 3000 yen, so the Japanese modelers think of Fujimi's curbside Enzo kit as a sub-CD price range product, while Tamiya's Enzo costs a lot more than that. That's where Fujimi found its own market: simple curbside kit for an affordable price.

Off topic, but DAMN! a CD costs $30 in Japan? :shakehead

CifeNet
02-29-2008, 06:36 PM
Let see if they come with different "versions" of Enzo.

Tamiy is doing it (red, yellow, clear version, etc) to maximize their return investment value, but I have a feeling that Fujimi does it better. :)

For example, their new VW Golf kit is a two door body style, and yet the interior has four door knobs and latches. Very strange.

Maybe this is their way to let us know we will get 4 door version soon... :)

Chuck Kourouklis
02-29-2008, 10:10 PM
Man. Can you imagine the bitching if Tamiya did one with four opening doors?

:icon16:

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