Civic HX
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 02:30 PM
I'm new to this thread and i've been reading and noone seems to own an HX. Am i the only one here with one and does anyone know the specs on it? i've looked online and it says it comes stock with a SOTC VTEC-E but the word V-TEC is nowhere to be found on my engine....Im a NOOB to cars so dont laugh at me....any info would be greatly appreciated since id like to speed it up a little bit (turbo if possible) Thx a million
BLU CIVIC
02-24-2003, 02:31 PM
DO U HAVE THE SHIFT LIGHT ON YOUR CLUSTER??
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 02:32 PM
Yes
Emilio
02-24-2003, 02:51 PM
Your engine produces 115 hp, and i don't remember the torque. Its better than a LX/DX engine. IT has V-tec, its almost identical to the EX engine, except that when Vtec kicks in, only half teh valves are operational, or something like that..... the L after hte V-tec stands for Lean burn, meaning you save gas, and make HP using a leaner mixture (more air to fuel ratio).
The problem with your engine is that its not very responsive to modifications, and some parts that are made for the D16Z (Ex's engine) wont fit yours at all.
But then again if this is just a daily driver's car and you dont plan to squeeze performance out of it, its the best engine you can ask for :)
The problem with your engine is that its not very responsive to modifications, and some parts that are made for the D16Z (Ex's engine) wont fit yours at all.
But then again if this is just a daily driver's car and you dont plan to squeeze performance out of it, its the best engine you can ask for :)
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 02:58 PM
would turbos that fit on an EX also fit on my car? if so would it destroy my engine?
Emilio
02-24-2003, 03:13 PM
You know i was trying to find an old post that i remember, they had explained everything about your HX engine. As far as i remember, i think you could fit turbos from an EX but the results would not be so great, and if you turn up the boost too much, withouth reinforcing the engine yes you could destroy it. But you could also destroy a B16A if you dont build it up before turning up the boost....
My best advice for you is if you want power, swap your engine for a B18C or a B16A, whatever your preference is and whatever you can get cheaper...
My best advice for you is if you want power, swap your engine for a B18C or a B16A, whatever your preference is and whatever you can get cheaper...
sparq
02-24-2003, 03:19 PM
Swap in an EX/SI motor first - then turbo.
The HX is a hog, the VTEC is only for better gas mileage, NOT power... with the characteristics of the non HP gaining VTEC once you turbo it, you are going to need HELL of a fuel pump and FPR and fuel management to get it working properly.
Swap in a differant motor, or a differant head (EX/SI head + ECU) would work as well - then worry about the turbo!
The HX is a hog, the VTEC is only for better gas mileage, NOT power... with the characteristics of the non HP gaining VTEC once you turbo it, you are going to need HELL of a fuel pump and FPR and fuel management to get it working properly.
Swap in a differant motor, or a differant head (EX/SI head + ECU) would work as well - then worry about the turbo!
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 03:25 PM
will both of those engines go in trouble free? will i notice a big difference in hp before i do any mods to it?
sparq
02-24-2003, 03:29 PM
EX/SI will bolt right in. Just make sure you get the engine wiring harness, and the ECU. Im not sure if the one you have will work, im sure it will but the EX/SI one will have better fuel mapping, so its worth it. Youll notice alot more gains then just modding the HX motor... and mated with the HX tranny, the EX/SI motor w/ boost will be great!
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 03:31 PM
do you know anywhere where they have these engines for a good price? and where i could possibly sell mine?
sparq
02-24-2003, 03:35 PM
We have a classifieds section right here on Automotive Forums...
Try there - not many people will be looking for an HX swap though, you can also find EX/SI motors on ebay. You should be able to find what you need (motor and ECU) for like $500 shipped... good luck.
Try there - not many people will be looking for an HX swap though, you can also find EX/SI motors on ebay. You should be able to find what you need (motor and ECU) for like $500 shipped... good luck.
mattyoung33
02-24-2003, 04:13 PM
You are not the only one with an HX dont worry... i got one and im planning on getting a full-catback exhaust and lower it with shocks and springs this week. Then in the spring im getting 17" rims and a cold air intake. after that im going to save up! save up for awhile, and i hope to drop in a B18C. Thats my dream for my car. Along the way i want to maybe put a decent system in my car, nothing great but something better then stock. However I need to get a better paying job soon lol... :cool:
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 04:36 PM
Yeah i got 2 12's and a nice cd player and amp in mine....i plan to go black tints and lights (black body) and put 17's (white) with coilovers, i was just hoping that i would be able to increase the performance somewhat but oh well i guess ill just have to save my money, which is no fun at all....it kind of sucks getting a new car and it being slower than your last one ('87 Lude 2.0 si) but hey its not rusted out at least :D
Emilio
02-24-2003, 06:05 PM
Try there - not many people will be looking for an HX swap though, you can also find EX/SI motors on ebay. You should be able to find what you need (motor and ECU) for like $500 shipped... good luck.
Dude, SI motor for 500 bucks... with ECU.. shipped? hook me up!!!
u prolly made a spelling mistake, the complete swap usually costs 2-3 grand
And the SI motor, Bubsman, will give u a hell of a lot of HP than your current engine, sparq is right abt that one, he is also right that its pointless souping up your HX motor
Dude, SI motor for 500 bucks... with ECU.. shipped? hook me up!!!
u prolly made a spelling mistake, the complete swap usually costs 2-3 grand
And the SI motor, Bubsman, will give u a hell of a lot of HP than your current engine, sparq is right abt that one, he is also right that its pointless souping up your HX motor
Bubsman
02-24-2003, 08:04 PM
eh....ill probably get some headers and a chrome oil cap or somethnig lol, i guess there is no point in suping it up since ill just get my ass kicked lol, itll look purdy, even if it is in their rearview mirrors :rolleyes:
sparq
02-25-2003, 05:00 AM
How do you make a "spelling mistake" typing numbers? And no - I did not make a mistake. EX/SI motor goes for like $300, ECU for another $100... $100 to ship it ... thats $500.
2-3000k could get you a B16, why would you waste your time on a D16z6 :bloated:
2-3000k could get you a B16, why would you waste your time on a D16z6 :bloated:
shepworldwide
02-25-2003, 05:09 AM
i thought that you would want to use an ex or si tranny :confused:
due to the hx' tall gearing...
due to the hx' tall gearing...
sparq
02-25-2003, 05:47 AM
If he is going turbo, you want the tall gearing...
shepworldwide
02-25-2003, 05:50 AM
my bad.. i missed that part :bloated:
sparq
02-25-2003, 05:54 AM
Its otay Shep... I still wub you :bloated: :finger:
civickiller
02-25-2003, 06:28 AM
i say save up like either $3000 for a b16a or $5000 for a b18c, either motor will probably satisfy your power needs, then you can put all the rest of your money into your show
shepworldwide
02-25-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by civickiller
i say save up like either $3000 for a b16a or $5000 for a b18c, either motor will probably satisfy your power needs, then you can put all the rest of your money into your show
bah..... go H or go home
if your not gonna go big take that 3-5 g's and build your sohc
he already has a 1.6 liter
EDIT: power needs are like mods they'll always need to be upgraded :devil:
i say save up like either $3000 for a b16a or $5000 for a b18c, either motor will probably satisfy your power needs, then you can put all the rest of your money into your show
bah..... go H or go home
if your not gonna go big take that 3-5 g's and build your sohc
he already has a 1.6 liter
EDIT: power needs are like mods they'll always need to be upgraded :devil:
edman24
02-25-2003, 08:40 AM
3-5K into an hx motor wont make you fast enough to beat a stock b18c. and why wastes that kind of money on an engine never intended to perform like that. work with what the engineers gave you and make it better. dont change their ideas.
shepworldwide
02-25-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by edman24
3-5K into an hx motor wont make you fast enough to beat a stock b18c.
:spit: haha..this isn't gonna be a debate thread, but yes it will
3-5K into an hx motor wont make you fast enough to beat a stock b18c.
:spit: haha..this isn't gonna be a debate thread, but yes it will
tenzoracerevovii
02-26-2003, 01:17 AM
yea i agree. 3-5 k is plently enough to beat a STOCK b18c w/ an hx motor. But then that's only stock b18c's or maybe mildly modified. come on now. You can get a turbo the motor and squeeze it. HAHA. the motor will blow after about 1 1/2 runs, but at least you beat that stock b18c. Now if that gs-r had an intake..............:rolleyes: :finger:
oh yea. i know a guy that has a d16 for ya but it's an automatic. you can bolt up a clutch and tranny to it, but he's selling it pretty cheap. just hit me up. or you can just take the head like sparq said. the only difference between the automatic and manual is the cam right? or so i've heard. you can always get a cam later on if you want. or i'm sure you can get a stock cam out of a manual d16 for very little cash. not sure on that though, but i'm sure someone will prove me right or make me look like a complete ass......
oh yea. i know a guy that has a d16 for ya but it's an automatic. you can bolt up a clutch and tranny to it, but he's selling it pretty cheap. just hit me up. or you can just take the head like sparq said. the only difference between the automatic and manual is the cam right? or so i've heard. you can always get a cam later on if you want. or i'm sure you can get a stock cam out of a manual d16 for very little cash. not sure on that though, but i'm sure someone will prove me right or make me look like a complete ass......
edman24
02-26-2003, 01:27 AM
uh no maybe you guys should add things up a little bit. 3-5k in mods for this guy whom i assume wont do his own work will not allow him to beat a b18c and last more than a race. of course he could install a turbo system in his car and run at 15psi once and blow his engine but thats besides the point. anyone can do that. 3-5k including the cost of installation will not be enough to afford a turbo kit and nos, and even if he did do that somehow, if he overboosted hed blow the engine, if he used both at the same time, hed blow the engine, and thats not what i call a good race. so no, 3-5k into an HX motor will not beat a b18c.
Emilio
02-26-2003, 09:29 AM
I concur
Besides after 3-5K into the HX motor, it will be pretty much up to its full potential, and after that if you want to get more horses you will be forced to swap engines. Aside from the fact that you are risking blowing up the HX motor if you over-do it, like edman24 said
So might as well go for an engine swap to begine with, you will be very very happy with it. And if you could find a place with the tools to do the swap yourself, you could get the materials for not more than 1.5 grand. Info on swapping is plenty available, its not that complicated.
Besides after 3-5K into the HX motor, it will be pretty much up to its full potential, and after that if you want to get more horses you will be forced to swap engines. Aside from the fact that you are risking blowing up the HX motor if you over-do it, like edman24 said
So might as well go for an engine swap to begine with, you will be very very happy with it. And if you could find a place with the tools to do the swap yourself, you could get the materials for not more than 1.5 grand. Info on swapping is plenty available, its not that complicated.
nismo415
02-27-2003, 09:09 AM
welcome to my world...lol
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