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blk91240
02-11-2008, 04:32 PM
hey guys: i just bought a nissan 240sx last week. it has the KA24DE engine. 2.4L I4: 155hp@5500 rpm and 160lbs@3500rpm. since last year i raced my v8, i am tryin to get a rough idea as to what i should be looking for as far as equal competition this year at the local hotspot.... by the time i start headin to the spot, i will have at least a cold air, cat-back exhaust, removed the back seat, and put on a nice set of falken z-912s: im looking to see what would be some cars of equal competition as far as 4cyls.:what should i be looking for in say, a civic for somethin i wont destroy, and will give me a good run???? maybe some 6s.... i know there were quite a few '00-'02 stangs with v6s there last year....
BLU CIVIC
02-11-2008, 04:54 PM
how many miles on the engine?
BP2K2Max
02-11-2008, 05:39 PM
no offense but those things are total dogs. boost that thing or get rid of it IMO.
jeepgclwj
02-11-2008, 07:52 PM
hey guys: i just bought a nissan 240sx last week. it has the KA24DE engine. 2.4L I4: 155hp@5500 rpm and 160lbs@3500rpm. since last year i raced my v8, i am tryin to get a rough idea as to what i should be looking for as far as equal competition this year at the local hotspot.... by the time i start headin to the spot, i will have at least a cold air, cat-back exhaust, removed the back seat, and put on a nice set of falken z-912s: im looking to see what would be some cars of equal competition as far as 4cyls.:what should i be looking for in say, a civic for somethin i wont destroy, and will give me a good run???? maybe some 6s.... i know there were quite a few '00-'02 stangs with v6s there last year....
Geo Metro, Chevy Citation, Ford Pinto, Dodge Omni, ect...
Boost is your friend.....
Geo Metro, Chevy Citation, Ford Pinto, Dodge Omni, ect...
Boost is your friend.....
blk91240
02-11-2008, 08:08 PM
the engine was just rebuilt 3000 miles ago... and yea i ordered the boost kit today lol.... t3/t4 turbo... tokiya XL big i/c the piping is being custom bent. and a ssqv b.o.v.
before i put on the turbo though: what should i be looking for in a honda.... i know a shit load turn out every week.... i was wondering what one of them would have to have to keep up... i mean we go from a dig.... rwd powns fwd.... i have less weight, more hp etc.... what do i need to be lookin for for it to be a good race? im not waisting my time on the stock 4 bangers....
before i put on the turbo though: what should i be looking for in a honda.... i know a shit load turn out every week.... i was wondering what one of them would have to have to keep up... i mean we go from a dig.... rwd powns fwd.... i have less weight, more hp etc.... what do i need to be lookin for for it to be a good race? im not waisting my time on the stock 4 bangers....
blk91240
02-11-2008, 08:09 PM
the engine was just rebuilt 3000 miles ago... and yea i ordered the boost kit today lol.... t3/t4 turbo... tokiya XL big i/c the piping is being custom bent. and a ssqv b.o.v.
before i put on the turbo though: what should i be looking for in a honda.... i know a shit load turn out every week.... i was wondering what one of them would have to have to keep up... i mean we go from a dig.... rwd powns fwd.... i have less weight, more hp etc.... what do i need to be lookin for for it to be a good race? im not waisting my time on the stock 4 bangers....
before i put on the turbo though: what should i be looking for in a honda.... i know a shit load turn out every week.... i was wondering what one of them would have to have to keep up... i mean we go from a dig.... rwd powns fwd.... i have less weight, more hp etc.... what do i need to be lookin for for it to be a good race? im not waisting my time on the stock 4 bangers....
GForce957
02-11-2008, 09:02 PM
the stock 4 bangers may not want to waste their time on you, you run 16's. a Civic SI would beat you.
blk91240
02-11-2008, 09:06 PM
wow this just shows how stupid people on this forum reallly CAN be. any reasonable person would know that ANY honda running vtec, not iVTEC, or worse woudl stang no chance seeing the best engine that can be put in a civic with out the iVTEC can only makr 126hp stock... they need at least a decent set of cams, intake, high flow cat, with exhaust, and most likely a ecu reflash to even think about keepin up from a dig with a 240 with a intake, exhaust, and crower cams... wow guys wow.... way to represent your forum.....
CassiesMan
02-11-2008, 09:40 PM
wow this just shows how stupid people on this forum reallly CAN be. any reasonable person would know that ANY honda running vtec, not iVTEC, or worse woudl stang no chance seeing the best engine that can be put in a civic with out the iVTEC can only makr 126hp stock... they need at least a decent set of cams, intake, high flow cat, with exhaust, and most likely a ecu reflash to even think about keepin up from a dig with a 240 with a intake, exhaust, and crower cams... wow guys wow.... way to represent your forum.....
You are a fucking idiot. Get out and go play hide the dipstick with your high school buddies and pretending you can take a stock Civic Si, lol. Oh, and, uh, the B18 and K series will both fit into a Civic, and both stock make more than 126 ponies. You are a moron, and hopefully you'll go out and race into a fucking tree or something. Jesus, I feel like more of an idiot just from reading your post. I swear, the people they let use the internet these days. You might cut a flat fifteen if you are lucky.
You are a fucking idiot. Get out and go play hide the dipstick with your high school buddies and pretending you can take a stock Civic Si, lol. Oh, and, uh, the B18 and K series will both fit into a Civic, and both stock make more than 126 ponies. You are a moron, and hopefully you'll go out and race into a fucking tree or something. Jesus, I feel like more of an idiot just from reading your post. I swear, the people they let use the internet these days. You might cut a flat fifteen if you are lucky.
BLU CIVIC
02-11-2008, 09:41 PM
wow this just shows how stupid people on this forum reallly CAN be. any reasonable person would know that ANY honda running vtec, not iVTEC, or worse woudl stang no chance seeing the best engine that can be put in a civic with out the iVTEC can only makr 126hp stock...
what about the non-iVTEC D16z6, D16y8, H22, B16a1, B16a, B18c1, B18c5, and B18c that make more that 126hp stock?
they need at least a decent set of cams, intake, high flow cat, with exhaust, and most likely a ecu reflash to even think about keepin up from a dig with a 240 with a intake, exhaust, and crower cams...
no not really:nono: and this is a false statement also
i mean we go from a dig.... rwd powns fwd....
anyone that knows how to launch a car can beat a rwd off the line in a fwd and vice versa
do you even know anything about Hondas or even 240's?
what about the non-iVTEC D16z6, D16y8, H22, B16a1, B16a, B18c1, B18c5, and B18c that make more that 126hp stock?
they need at least a decent set of cams, intake, high flow cat, with exhaust, and most likely a ecu reflash to even think about keepin up from a dig with a 240 with a intake, exhaust, and crower cams...
no not really:nono: and this is a false statement also
i mean we go from a dig.... rwd powns fwd....
anyone that knows how to launch a car can beat a rwd off the line in a fwd and vice versa
do you even know anything about Hondas or even 240's?
CivRacer95
02-11-2008, 11:33 PM
LOL..WOOOOOOWWWWWWW......
It's been a while since we've had someone just waltz in here and flat out show ignorance. Usually you have to drag it out of people with a few witty statements.
Represent my forum, eh? Well, let's look at it this way. Depending on your 240 SX, your ability to comprehend a level minded conversation, and with your wit, I'd assume you couldn't afford much more than the an S13 240SX.
Assuming this. Your car weighs in at a hefty 2700-2800 lbs. That and your measly KA24 (no offense to other 240 owners) would more than likely produce about 150-160 HP. Torque number are about even. RWD...big woop. I can almost gaurantee you can launch your 240sx no better than you can launch a Huffy bicycle.
A Civic worth beating, how about an Integra. 99-00 Civic SI with a B16A produces 160 HP and runs a 15.7 or so in the 1/4. The Integra GSR with the B18C1 boasts 180 HP or so, and runs a bit faster in the 1/4. Both cars weigh in at 2600 lbs or a little heavier. Both can open up decently well with minor bolt ons. They won't be dipping into the 14's, maybe the GSR, but highly unlikely.
Where's 209 at? I'm sure he can even give you some details about a car called the Dodge Neon R/T. Has an engine called the 420A I believe. If I remmeber, he was running bolt ons and cams, and was hitting low 14's all day. Could have been someone else, but still impressive work with the Neon.
If you want to get boosted, well then go that route. Because honestly, where you stand now, your best bet would be sticking to beating the kids that hang out at the local AutoZone waiting for the uber cool "wide port intake" to come in. You know, the one that was designed wider to suck in more air just to add that pathetic extra 1/2 a horsepower.
I can gaurantee you anyone else, who owns a Honda, Toyota, Mitsu, whatever, with atleast a good amount of knowledge about putting in some decent engine work, will more than likely beat your sad excuse for a 240. Your Skat-back exhaust and measly intake, dare I say, probably won't even get you to a mid 15, and that's me just being nice. Quit digging your nose in a magazine and believing all the horse shit you read on the pages of the latest "Import Spooner" or "Super Skeet".
Don't bother coming back here either if all your going to do is try and feed us some ricer bullshit. Try picking up a thing called "the clue". It leads to a thing called knowledge. Once you obtain that, come back here and try having a normal convo without the rest of the "higher than thou" attitude you brought with you.
If you really need to know about cars, 1/4 mile times, and where you possibly might stand. Here's a website that might give you a hint of where you stand. Don't forget to factor in your ability to drive, altitude, weight, things like that. www.dragtimes.com (http://www.dragtimes.com). Do yourself a favor and look up your 240sx. Then go to the very end and start there. That's where all the slow 16 second + 240's are. Then see if you can't find yourself a 240 that has similar mods. Once you find that out, then start your comparison.
If that helps, good luck. Hope that gives you something better to do then fill up these forums with shit that doesn't need to be put on the table. Cause when you do, I gotta clean up. I'd rather just come in, look at the mess that was started, smile, turn away, then let my bitchy wife Matty do all the cleaning like a good woman does. Only kidding Matty, you aren't bitchy, you just have sand in your vagina...:biggrin:
It's been a while since we've had someone just waltz in here and flat out show ignorance. Usually you have to drag it out of people with a few witty statements.
Represent my forum, eh? Well, let's look at it this way. Depending on your 240 SX, your ability to comprehend a level minded conversation, and with your wit, I'd assume you couldn't afford much more than the an S13 240SX.
Assuming this. Your car weighs in at a hefty 2700-2800 lbs. That and your measly KA24 (no offense to other 240 owners) would more than likely produce about 150-160 HP. Torque number are about even. RWD...big woop. I can almost gaurantee you can launch your 240sx no better than you can launch a Huffy bicycle.
A Civic worth beating, how about an Integra. 99-00 Civic SI with a B16A produces 160 HP and runs a 15.7 or so in the 1/4. The Integra GSR with the B18C1 boasts 180 HP or so, and runs a bit faster in the 1/4. Both cars weigh in at 2600 lbs or a little heavier. Both can open up decently well with minor bolt ons. They won't be dipping into the 14's, maybe the GSR, but highly unlikely.
Where's 209 at? I'm sure he can even give you some details about a car called the Dodge Neon R/T. Has an engine called the 420A I believe. If I remmeber, he was running bolt ons and cams, and was hitting low 14's all day. Could have been someone else, but still impressive work with the Neon.
If you want to get boosted, well then go that route. Because honestly, where you stand now, your best bet would be sticking to beating the kids that hang out at the local AutoZone waiting for the uber cool "wide port intake" to come in. You know, the one that was designed wider to suck in more air just to add that pathetic extra 1/2 a horsepower.
I can gaurantee you anyone else, who owns a Honda, Toyota, Mitsu, whatever, with atleast a good amount of knowledge about putting in some decent engine work, will more than likely beat your sad excuse for a 240. Your Skat-back exhaust and measly intake, dare I say, probably won't even get you to a mid 15, and that's me just being nice. Quit digging your nose in a magazine and believing all the horse shit you read on the pages of the latest "Import Spooner" or "Super Skeet".
Don't bother coming back here either if all your going to do is try and feed us some ricer bullshit. Try picking up a thing called "the clue". It leads to a thing called knowledge. Once you obtain that, come back here and try having a normal convo without the rest of the "higher than thou" attitude you brought with you.
If you really need to know about cars, 1/4 mile times, and where you possibly might stand. Here's a website that might give you a hint of where you stand. Don't forget to factor in your ability to drive, altitude, weight, things like that. www.dragtimes.com (http://www.dragtimes.com). Do yourself a favor and look up your 240sx. Then go to the very end and start there. That's where all the slow 16 second + 240's are. Then see if you can't find yourself a 240 that has similar mods. Once you find that out, then start your comparison.
If that helps, good luck. Hope that gives you something better to do then fill up these forums with shit that doesn't need to be put on the table. Cause when you do, I gotta clean up. I'd rather just come in, look at the mess that was started, smile, turn away, then let my bitchy wife Matty do all the cleaning like a good woman does. Only kidding Matty, you aren't bitchy, you just have sand in your vagina...:biggrin:
GForce957
02-12-2008, 01:36 AM
As a point of reference, I was able to keep up with a KA 240 that had intake and exhaust with a saturn sl2 that had 4 people in it.
Please do as our lovely mod says, and hit yourself up with "the knowledge"
Please do as our lovely mod says, and hit yourself up with "the knowledge"
CassiesMan
02-12-2008, 08:57 AM
I'm on the edge here. Do I want to use the Maddison quote or not? I don't want to over use it, but I almost feel that the dousche-fag here deserves it...
HUMP CATTING! ITS SIMILAR TO BEAR BLASTING! THINK FAST DOUSCHE-FAG!
HUMP CATTING! ITS SIMILAR TO BEAR BLASTING! THINK FAST DOUSCHE-FAG!
blk91240
02-12-2008, 02:23 PM
hey civracer, thanks for the website... but it does prove my point.... everyone was saying that the car was essentially junk enless i had it turbo'd.... that is surely not the case.... there were FOUR instances at the track i race at ( dragway 42: ohio) where cars like integra gsrs, with the b18c1, or b18c5s ran pretty close to about 15.4ish... the stock times for the 240 were about 15.15-15.2.... after that i found some people who had done the exhaust and intake, same as me, one even had the falken z512s, which the z912s replaced.... he was running 14.952... not exactly amazing but it did show me what a comperable civic or integra would need to have done to keep up: i still cant find one with the cams, exhaust, and intake. if you find one, please let me know... sorry about dissing your forum... that wasnt nessesary... that should never have happened....
blk91240
02-12-2008, 02:33 PM
another point i would like to bring up; there arent too too many people driving a civic Si around where we race, just for the simple fact that if you buy somethin older, you can put more into it??? another thing: the h22... thats more of an accord related engine, but i guess it could be done.. the b18 series are nice but not the easiest thing to find in ohio... yea another fact i didnt mention... the d series i can understand.... i was just trying to come up with ideas as to what to look for when im out there... engine swap, yes, but if that is all that the car has done to it, unless it is a K series enigne ( this is where the iVTEC comes in) there arent really alot of engines to worry abou, am i right?
GForce957
02-12-2008, 02:50 PM
A stock 240 was running a 15.2? I find that hard to believe. 160hp and 2800 minus driver are not getting those times...
blk91240
02-12-2008, 04:08 PM
sorry dude: look it up on that site: the timeslip is attached to it... i believe the only thing done was tires? not even drag or drag radials...
jeepgclwj
02-12-2008, 04:34 PM
Just because 1 or 2 cars pull off a time thats hard to believe in stock form doesnt mean thats the norm... How about the tons of others that are in the 16's?
Just because someone types in that their car was stock doesnt always make it true either...I guess you will have your factory freaks though...
I say go out and race and find out if your cars faster and then come post the results...<< FTW!!!
Just because someone types in that their car was stock doesnt always make it true either...I guess you will have your factory freaks though...
I say go out and race and find out if your cars faster and then come post the results...<< FTW!!!
blk91240
02-12-2008, 04:54 PM
aight yea i will make a few passes here in the next couple of weeks.... the dragway is opening up early as a free run session for the start of the season
jeepgclwj
02-12-2008, 05:00 PM
aight yea i will make a few passes here in the next couple of weeks.... the dragway is opening up early as a free run session for the start of the season
Got any info on that. I would drive up to get a few passes in. I was just in Cleveland the other day...
Got any info on that. I would drive up to get a few passes in. I was just in Cleveland the other day...
blk91240
02-12-2008, 05:25 PM
yea: dragway 42, i dont know if you know where that is, but take 71 and get off at strongsville/ royalton rd. head west past the mall, go south on pearl road, and about an hour- hour and a half down, in west salem, is dragway 42. its pretty nice
Sleepr awd
02-13-2008, 09:51 AM
for reference. I was beating a friends 240 w/I/h/e and tires all day long in a stock 3g eclipse v6 noob launching. I went up against a Gsr and lost very very badly. More than once and I was given 2 cars the second time.
Also you fail to realize that at least where I am people put about ANY honda engine in about any Honda chassis.
H23 and h22 s go into civic hatches
non-vtec b18s go into civics then get boosted
stock sohc vtec civics get boosted frequently
You really have no idea what is out there. And EVERY one of those swaps with the right driver put those cars in mid 14s to high 12s without extensive modification. Usually far better than a simple turbo ka24de which might get you a high 13 before some serious work needs to be done. Please don't be ignorant. You are just looking through a very small peephole in a very large world. Now get out there and learn something.
Also you fail to realize that at least where I am people put about ANY honda engine in about any Honda chassis.
H23 and h22 s go into civic hatches
non-vtec b18s go into civics then get boosted
stock sohc vtec civics get boosted frequently
You really have no idea what is out there. And EVERY one of those swaps with the right driver put those cars in mid 14s to high 12s without extensive modification. Usually far better than a simple turbo ka24de which might get you a high 13 before some serious work needs to be done. Please don't be ignorant. You are just looking through a very small peephole in a very large world. Now get out there and learn something.
blk91240
02-13-2008, 02:07 PM
ok dude you need to chill.... and those times you were talking about: impossible. just to let you know: i had the 240 out today, and yes my buddies 3g sucked my ballz: he has the same setup as you: headers, intake, and exhaust, and he has the winter tires on: the only real difference.... i won from 0-80 by about 2 1/2 lengths... i will see how the gsr thing works out: my cuz has a b18c1 in his civc: its a 94 5spd, nothin realy, realy extensive, however i do know he has different cams, i/h/e, not sure what else. i will give you those results late, late friday night
CassiesMan
02-13-2008, 03:23 PM
ok dude you need to chill.... and those times you were talking about: impossible. just to let you know: i had the 240 out today, and yes my buddies 3g sucked my ballz: he has the same setup as you: headers, intake, and exhaust, and he has the winter tires on: the only real difference.... i won from 0-80 by about 2 1/2 lengths... i will see how the gsr thing works out: my cuz has a b18c1 in his civc: its a 94 5spd, nothin realy, realy extensive, however i do know he has different cams, i/h/e, not sure what else. i will give you those results late, late friday night
Negative Ghost Rider.
Negative Ghost Rider.
BP2K2Max
02-13-2008, 03:31 PM
dude, you're wrong, they're right, fuckin' deal with it
and 2-1/2 cars on a modded 3g eclipse=BS.
and 2-1/2 cars on a modded 3g eclipse=BS.
blk91240
02-13-2008, 03:43 PM
sorrey to tell you, but i will prolly have video up in a few days of racing both the eclipse AGAIN as well as the civic... i will let you know what happens with both
CassiesMan
02-13-2008, 04:19 PM
I dunno, it could have been an Auto. Elchico (Or Sleeper awd now) beat me by about 1 3/4-2lengths when we raced, and all he had was the intake. I raced an auto V6 Eclipse, and beat him by bus lengths.
silentscreams85
02-13-2008, 04:21 PM
blk91240
02-13-2008, 05:04 PM
lol ok dudeL im right on it LOL... wow what a scam
Sleepr awd
02-13-2008, 08:01 PM
ok dude you need to chill.... and those times you were talking about: impossible. just to let you know: i had the 240 out today, and yes my buddies 3g sucked my ballz: he has the same setup as you: headers, intake, and exhaust, and he has the winter tires on: the only real difference.... i won from 0-80 by about 2 1/2 lengths... i will see how the gsr thing works out: my cuz has a b18c1 in his civc: its a 94 5spd, nothin realy, realy extensive, however i do know he has different cams, i/h/e, not sure what else. i will give you those results late, late friday night
The times i'm talking about are not "impossible" if you stuck 180whp in a car taht weighs 2100lbs or less, you can bet he will be running 13's not to mention the most common mods once swapped into a hatch or CRX is i/h/e and an SAFC or similar. vtec is no slouch when you drive a 15sec. car.
a GSR by itself, bone stock, will run a 15.0 with a DECENT driver. without ANY mods.
and maybe you misunderstood.
me 03 V6 Eclipse Manual - BONE STOCK
friend 95 Nissan 240- aftermarket wheels, i/h/e programmer lightened and completely rebuilt by him and his dad.
i got him by 2 lengths every time, and over an extensive period of time. If you want me to show you, come on down and give it a try. i've got bald tires on it now, but i can guarantee you won't catch it in your stock s13.
Time 15 Flat
60 Foot 2.181
330 6.324
1/8 Mile 9.691
1/8 Mph 72.41
1/4 Mph 91.14
1993 base model 240sx
Spun all the way threw 2nd gear! Mods
248/248 hot cam swap
Weigh in @ 2453 lbs
hks 3in exhaust
Test pipe
Vlsd
CCRAPPP TIRES!
Short Ram Cold air intake (autozone piping yo) lol
Eletric fan
Removed a/c
walbro 255 fuel pump
Tein coilovers
Zex wet nitrous kit
take note here ^^ ok? can you read it? that's a 93 base model 240sx with a fair amount of mods, new cams, lsd, sri, removed fan clutch, weight red. etc. and he's running a 15 FLAT, I looked through the whole thing thread on 240sx forums, the ONLY people that broke into the 14's are the ones with serious weight reductions and much more in mods. Many of the stock s13's typical times were around a 15.5 or 15.6 which is most likely where ALL of them are. supposedly a stock 3g V6 Manual trans ECLIPSE will run a 15.7 They do not. they run mid-low 15's. I kno because I have one and i'll pull a 15.2 without a problem, and i haven't done all the cheap N/A mods yet!!
The friend, aforementioned ran a 15.7 with a horrible 60' and he always had a good launch when he ran me and i still always beat him. Now, do you understand the logic? or is it going over your head??
I dunno, it could have been an Auto. Elchico (Or Sleeper awd now) beat me by about 1 3/4-2lengths when we raced, and all he had was the intake. I raced an auto V6 Eclipse, and beat him by bus lengths.
I do want you to note, that an automatic 3g v6 eclipse WILL NOT beat ANYTHING. it is more likely you raced one of those than one with balls. Or even that your buddies is a 4cyl version in which case, the potential on it is unlimited and you had better hope he doesn't find out. Then of course there is the slight possibility that your buddy is a complete dumbass and can't launch or drive worth a sh!t. ANY decent driver in a 3g V6 manual will hand you your ass, bone stock. i/h/e on those cars w/ safc will get you mid 14's. no better than that.
if that b18c1 equipped civic doesn't beat you, one of two things happened
Chuck Norris bought a 240sx
or
the civic bogged off the line, then proceeded to miss 2nd, third, fourth, and god forbid you got over 80mph 5th.
I dont' think you understand that EVERYONE of us has been in this scene much longer than you, and EVERYONE of us knows, that you are full of BS. We have seen it all from Rice(r)'s corolla beating cars to cassie's boosted hatch to jeeps racing grandprix's. We are all VERY informed on this automotiveworld, we know what to expect, and we know the laws of physics don't change so that you can run 13's without boost. I also might mention that I've driven a boosted S13 ka24de and i'm not impressed. it has no torque, and it never put me back in the seat.
If you have video, we *might* believe you, but i hope you like seeing civic taillights. I'd love to race you any day for $$. We are trying to help inform you one what to look out for, and you are continuing to be ignorant. You have no idea what you are getting into. You have no idea what is out there. That is the first sign you will lose.
The times i'm talking about are not "impossible" if you stuck 180whp in a car taht weighs 2100lbs or less, you can bet he will be running 13's not to mention the most common mods once swapped into a hatch or CRX is i/h/e and an SAFC or similar. vtec is no slouch when you drive a 15sec. car.
a GSR by itself, bone stock, will run a 15.0 with a DECENT driver. without ANY mods.
and maybe you misunderstood.
me 03 V6 Eclipse Manual - BONE STOCK
friend 95 Nissan 240- aftermarket wheels, i/h/e programmer lightened and completely rebuilt by him and his dad.
i got him by 2 lengths every time, and over an extensive period of time. If you want me to show you, come on down and give it a try. i've got bald tires on it now, but i can guarantee you won't catch it in your stock s13.
Time 15 Flat
60 Foot 2.181
330 6.324
1/8 Mile 9.691
1/8 Mph 72.41
1/4 Mph 91.14
1993 base model 240sx
Spun all the way threw 2nd gear! Mods
248/248 hot cam swap
Weigh in @ 2453 lbs
hks 3in exhaust
Test pipe
Vlsd
CCRAPPP TIRES!
Short Ram Cold air intake (autozone piping yo) lol
Eletric fan
Removed a/c
walbro 255 fuel pump
Tein coilovers
Zex wet nitrous kit
take note here ^^ ok? can you read it? that's a 93 base model 240sx with a fair amount of mods, new cams, lsd, sri, removed fan clutch, weight red. etc. and he's running a 15 FLAT, I looked through the whole thing thread on 240sx forums, the ONLY people that broke into the 14's are the ones with serious weight reductions and much more in mods. Many of the stock s13's typical times were around a 15.5 or 15.6 which is most likely where ALL of them are. supposedly a stock 3g V6 Manual trans ECLIPSE will run a 15.7 They do not. they run mid-low 15's. I kno because I have one and i'll pull a 15.2 without a problem, and i haven't done all the cheap N/A mods yet!!
The friend, aforementioned ran a 15.7 with a horrible 60' and he always had a good launch when he ran me and i still always beat him. Now, do you understand the logic? or is it going over your head??
I dunno, it could have been an Auto. Elchico (Or Sleeper awd now) beat me by about 1 3/4-2lengths when we raced, and all he had was the intake. I raced an auto V6 Eclipse, and beat him by bus lengths.
I do want you to note, that an automatic 3g v6 eclipse WILL NOT beat ANYTHING. it is more likely you raced one of those than one with balls. Or even that your buddies is a 4cyl version in which case, the potential on it is unlimited and you had better hope he doesn't find out. Then of course there is the slight possibility that your buddy is a complete dumbass and can't launch or drive worth a sh!t. ANY decent driver in a 3g V6 manual will hand you your ass, bone stock. i/h/e on those cars w/ safc will get you mid 14's. no better than that.
if that b18c1 equipped civic doesn't beat you, one of two things happened
Chuck Norris bought a 240sx
or
the civic bogged off the line, then proceeded to miss 2nd, third, fourth, and god forbid you got over 80mph 5th.
I dont' think you understand that EVERYONE of us has been in this scene much longer than you, and EVERYONE of us knows, that you are full of BS. We have seen it all from Rice(r)'s corolla beating cars to cassie's boosted hatch to jeeps racing grandprix's. We are all VERY informed on this automotiveworld, we know what to expect, and we know the laws of physics don't change so that you can run 13's without boost. I also might mention that I've driven a boosted S13 ka24de and i'm not impressed. it has no torque, and it never put me back in the seat.
If you have video, we *might* believe you, but i hope you like seeing civic taillights. I'd love to race you any day for $$. We are trying to help inform you one what to look out for, and you are continuing to be ignorant. You have no idea what you are getting into. You have no idea what is out there. That is the first sign you will lose.
AMGalltheway
02-13-2008, 09:48 PM
you know what would be funny? If blk91240 was absolutely right and we were all dead wrong........
HAHAHA LOL
If you're wrong youre wrong and the more you argue about how wrong you are the stupider you sound.
HAHAHA LOL
If you're wrong youre wrong and the more you argue about how wrong you are the stupider you sound.
GForce957
02-13-2008, 10:26 PM
I havent been wrong since 1992.
Sleepr awd
02-14-2008, 06:36 PM
i haven't been wrong since 1986
CivRacer95
02-14-2008, 07:49 PM
you know what would be funny? If blk91240 was absolutely right and we were all dead wrong........
HAHAHA LOL
If you're wrong youre wrong and the more you argue about how wrong you are the stupider you sound.
There's always that one guy in every crowd that joins sides with the idiot being cast by stones... :tongue:
Elchico and Gforce, in this forum, mods are right (always). Everyone else who doesn't have their stars filled up, has been wrong no matter what. That's why us mods have all the stars :biggrin:.
HAHAHA LOL
If you're wrong youre wrong and the more you argue about how wrong you are the stupider you sound.
There's always that one guy in every crowd that joins sides with the idiot being cast by stones... :tongue:
Elchico and Gforce, in this forum, mods are right (always). Everyone else who doesn't have their stars filled up, has been wrong no matter what. That's why us mods have all the stars :biggrin:.
AMGalltheway
02-14-2008, 09:14 PM
the reason the haha and lol are bold is because it was meant for sarcasm
jeez
jeez
GForce957
02-14-2008, 09:21 PM
But....I'm only 4 stars off! :(
CivRacer95
02-15-2008, 12:27 PM
the reason the haha and lol are bold is because it was meant for sarcasm
jeez
I'm the last person you have to explain sarcasm to. The little :tongue: at the end of my sentence was for joking purposes only...:biggrin:
Gforce, you will always be off. No matter how hard you try, always. :evillol:
jeez
I'm the last person you have to explain sarcasm to. The little :tongue: at the end of my sentence was for joking purposes only...:biggrin:
Gforce, you will always be off. No matter how hard you try, always. :evillol:
CassiesMan
02-15-2008, 02:18 PM
You could always just buy a full set of stars.
AMGalltheway
02-15-2008, 02:35 PM
only 4 easy payments of 99.99 plus tax, shipping & handling, and mexican labor union dues
CassiesMan
02-15-2008, 03:35 PM
I have a ground wire sitting here with an aligator clamp on it. If I ground it to itself, what would happen?
jeepgclwj
02-15-2008, 04:54 PM
I have a ground wire sitting here with an aligator clamp on it. If I ground it to itself, what would happen?
You would have continuity....
You would have continuity....
AMGalltheway
02-15-2008, 05:23 PM
I have a ground wire sitting here with an aligator clamp on it. If I ground it to itself, what would happen?
you would have a free, never ending source of eletricity
you would have a free, never ending source of eletricity
CassiesMan
02-15-2008, 06:05 PM
So basically, I would have solved all our energy problems?
CivRacer95
02-15-2008, 06:45 PM
So basically, I would have solved all our energy problems?
Test or Ban!!
If you succeed, you can stay.
If you don't, you get the ban!
Test or Ban!!
If you succeed, you can stay.
If you don't, you get the ban!
Sleepr awd
02-15-2008, 08:48 PM
what happened? did it work?? you know if it was only a 12v wire, then you wouldn't have made more than 12v's
and what happened to the kid that's so smart?? did we scare him off? or did he realize that honda> him
and what happened to the kid that's so smart?? did we scare him off? or did he realize that honda> him
CassiesMan
02-15-2008, 11:21 PM
Well, it turns out the ground wasn't actually wired into anything to get a power source from. It was just to keep static electricity off my glare screen at work, so it wasn't actually getting juice from anything. And electrical work>me. So I'm gonna see if I can get a buddy of mine to wire a ground into like, a car battery or something, then just clamp it off itself. That, or just did what I did with my model rocket that one time, and clamp the launch clips to my braces...but I don't have braces anymore, so we'll go with the tongue.
blk91240
02-16-2008, 08:31 AM
hey: just letting you guys know, the vids will be up soon: and you guys were wrong about the eclipse.... the b18 did win by about 1/2 a car from a dig and we went to 75.....
Sleepr awd
02-16-2008, 09:52 AM
Mod list on the eclipse? Auto or manual? 4cyl or v6?? If it is anything similar to mine I am ashamed to have him part of our community.
I def want vids. Vtec b series motors should be doing better than that.
Actually. If these cars are riced out I could easily see them losing. Sound systems, body kits, wheels bigger than reasonably functional, "rice wings" I'd like to know purely out of curiosity
I def want vids. Vtec b series motors should be doing better than that.
Actually. If these cars are riced out I could easily see them losing. Sound systems, body kits, wheels bigger than reasonably functional, "rice wings" I'd like to know purely out of curiosity
Sleepr awd
03-03-2008, 11:04 AM
I call BS!! I have not seen vids that were promised and so I call BS!!!
CassiesMan
03-03-2008, 12:03 PM
Yup. Bullshit. Never happened.
-The Stig-
03-03-2008, 03:49 PM
Harsh, but that's the way it goes.
superman'd b18
03-03-2008, 04:20 PM
wow... that guy can talk some shit.... i swear... if anyone i know personally does this kinda shit.... they are gettin an ass-kickiing
CassiesMan
03-03-2008, 04:50 PM
wow... that guy can talk some shit.... i swear... if anyone i know personally does this kinda shit.... they are gettin an ass-kickiing
Then kick his ass. I'm sure you know him.
Your sig:
BT of GDSR: GOD DAMN STREET RACERS!!!!
His Sig:
gd what? gdsr boyz: GOD DAMN STREET RACERS!
Then kick his ass. I'm sure you know him.
Your sig:
BT of GDSR: GOD DAMN STREET RACERS!!!!
His Sig:
gd what? gdsr boyz: GOD DAMN STREET RACERS!
AMGalltheway
03-03-2008, 05:29 PM
and get a vid of it while your at it :)
superman'd b18
03-04-2008, 05:19 AM
holy shit.... ok boyz yea... i know him.... i willl give him a nice talkin' to today... dont you worry about... im going teach him a lil bout his 240 after school..... called a civic.... which will kick his ass...
Sleepr awd
03-04-2008, 07:32 AM
and he said a b18 civic beat him!!! Turns out it was a d16'd civic waiting for a swap.
BURN!!!!
And I still wanna know about that third gen eclipse.
BURN!!!!
And I still wanna know about that third gen eclipse.
CassiesMan
03-04-2008, 08:39 AM
Something aint right here...
CivRacer95
03-04-2008, 09:15 AM
Sure does seem that way doesn't it...somehow he ironically knows this guy now...very very odd.
CassiesMan
03-04-2008, 10:06 AM
Sure does seem that way doesn't it...somehow he ironically knows this guy now...very very odd.
He didn't know him before till we pointed it out, yet he knows him as a person. Which makes me think a number of things. One, our intrepid 240SX owner is the typical eThug, who is mouthing off hard core here, but in the ultimate badass club of GDSR, he is a meek and quiet individual who knows his place, and that is the bottom of the food chain.
Or more likely, our D16 Honda owner and 240SX owner are one in the same.
He didn't know him before till we pointed it out, yet he knows him as a person. Which makes me think a number of things. One, our intrepid 240SX owner is the typical eThug, who is mouthing off hard core here, but in the ultimate badass club of GDSR, he is a meek and quiet individual who knows his place, and that is the bottom of the food chain.
Or more likely, our D16 Honda owner and 240SX owner are one in the same.
AMGalltheway
03-04-2008, 06:59 PM
that was my impression although it would be funny to see a vid of him beating his own ass
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