ebay seller : bboykorea

Before 1,5 years I ordered from him 3-4 kits.. I did not get them,I wrote to him and he answers, he gave it up!
In his Feedback there are many negatives,and all complain that the packet did not arrive! I avoid him since then,and every time I see it that is above since then (enough big trouble that may be above ) on Ebay,I spit one only!:sly:

I've never received any purchases from bboykorea but he sure took the PayPal money quickly. Then stall, stall, stall - Christmas mail is slow; what are the transaction numbers and when did PayPal pay me?; sent it to the wrong person, you have to wait until I get it back; it's good you emailed me that you haven't received it - I'll find out what is wrong and email you next week - it was Customs and I have to reship it; what were the transaction numbers? What is your address? If you don't receive it in two weeks, email me. What were the transaction numbers? Have you emailed me about this before?
When the eBay and PayPal complaint time limits have passed, no more responses. Go to eBay, Toys, military models, and type in bboykorea382 and see how he has responded again.
As for complaints against him versus positive comments, it should be kept in mind that at the very least my 2 complaints were not allowed to be filed on eBay. I am sure there are many many more complaints that bboykorea has avoided for the same reason and he has pocketed the cash. No more buying from Asia for me, except for Japan.

When ordering online, whether it's Ebay or elsewhere, it's always good to check the reviews for the vendor first. Ebay makes it easy with their feedback score. Elsewhere online, just search for reviews for that website. If the vendor is not good, you will find info about it. I've been saved from making purchases from bad websites several times after reading reviews from other people. Without reading the reviews first, I'd be out lots of $$$$.

My golden rule;

wait 20 business days to ship [some Hong Kong sellers use this as their 'own' rule of thumb]

Contact, wait two business max. then file a claim with eBay/paypal. Leave negative feedback at the same time. Respond to the ridiculous claim of 'fraud, bad buyer, etc' BS.

Enforce more claims.

I did this once, where i spent 40 USD for shipping and it took; [car was 30USD] received it very late, one month later to be exact.

In short, got refund, owned this guy. And somewhere the car showed up! Free car! woohoo! :p
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/rant, in terms of Bboykorea, i heard good things, and now this thread will determine my future purchases [or there lack of!]

his prices seem okay, but when i factor in shipping [to Canada] its not as good, and with patience i can attain the same product from another seller for less!

Thanks to the OP for this thread. It opened my eyes, and saved me a [potential] headache!

-mike

i didnt realize i bought something off this guy until i left a feedback 2 days ago.

i ordered a tamiya porsche gt3 rc body off him early dec so i can get the live.com disocunt.

i did not get it until 3 days ago. the package was ripped and USPS had a sticker on it sad "package was received damaged"

I open it it and the body was bent and had cracks in it. I do not think I will buy from him again. Took him over a month to shit the damn thing and to get it cracked. He puts it in a paper bag with a small piece of cardboard in there. yea thats gonna help..

Took him over a month to shit the damn thing and to get it cracked.

Sounds painful!! Maybe we should feel sorry for him . . .

Sorry, couldn't resist it!

i typed that to customers a couple times. they email back with "hey look what you typed"

i need to check my spelling more often

I did this once, where i spent 40 USD for shipping and it took; [car was 30USD] received it very late, one month later to be exact.

In short, got refund, owned this guy. And somewhere the car showed up! Free car! woohoo! :p

And this is fair to the seller? From my own experience it really does take 2-4 weeks to ship from Hong Kong to Toronto by Air, whether regular or EMS (EMS is actually worse, because it takes Purolator forever to handle the parcel).

And this is fair to the seller? From my own experience it really does take 2-4 weeks to ship from Hong Kong to Toronto by Air, whether regular or EMS (EMS is actually worse, because it takes Purolator forever to handle the parcel).

Some think that being a buyer gives them the right to do whatever they want.
This is why I do not take PayPal from those who don't pay for registered or insured shipping, this way I don't have problems with scumbag buyers.

PS: I think it's the Candian post that handles EMS in Canada now, and it's much worse than it used to be with Purolator. Not sure if it's true but I read it on the net.

The times you guys are quoting for parcels to be sent from HK is somewhat surprising.
I am in HK a lot these days and often send things home to the UK. If I post on Thursday, I will get it within a week without fail; with Tuesday being the usual date for delivery.

The times you guys are quoting for parcels to be sent from HK is somewhat surprising.
I am in HK a lot these days and often send things home to the UK. If I post on Thursday, I will get it within a week without fail; with Tuesday being the usual date for delivery.

Excellent, can you tell us what are the shipping costs for a 500 grams package sent with the service you use?

Dunno; never sent anything less than 5kgs.

and before you misunderstand my post; all I was pointing out, was my surprise at the quoted times, especially to Canada.
It brought up the question in my mind of possible differences in the delivery times caused by our respective Countries' postal service.

Time taken for the last couple shipments back home to Toronto:

X'Mas presents, shipped way before cutoff, regular air mail: 2 weeks
Books, regular air mail: 2 weeks
Box of clothes, regular air mail: 4 weeks (apparently customs opened it)
Document, regular air mail: 1 week
Birthday card, regular air mail: 2 weeks
Shoes, regular air mail: 4 weeks
Computer parts, regular air mail: 3 weeks
Document, SpeedPost air: 1 month (it was in 2006, when Purolator was still handling EMS. I could track that document reached Toronto Airport in 3 days, then it disappeared into Purolator's blackhole)

And it's not just Hong Kong. When I was living in Toronto, shipments from HLJ and Rainbow 10 varied between 2-4 weeks. Even mail between Canada and the US can take weeks; I once sent a money order to a guy in the US, and it took more than 3 weeks for it to arrive.

People should realize it takes a lot more time to ship items overseas, especially to North America. You need to factor in freight time, security checks, customs clearance, and the time it takes for the package to travel from the airport to a dispatch near you, which can take several hops. It can easily take several weeks, and it is unfair to slap a negative feedback to the seller simply because it took longer than you expect, especially when the kit did arrive afterall.

I got a kit today, it took 7 days from Germany to Austria, neighbor countries!
The last order I had from a hobby shop in Japan it took 4 weeks and the last one I paid is nearing 4 weeks and still not here.

Blaming the seller for the shipping duration is unfair.

Here's my golden rule on HK sellers. If it's a deeply discounted Tamiya kit, with shipping more than the kit, I do not buy from that seller. I purchased a couple of kits from a seller a few years ago with the exact same MO of this guy. Crushed unprotected boxes, over inflated shipping, run around emails. Shipping from reputable HK sellers arrives in roughly 2 weeks to the midwest US. But I understand the frustration of the complaint time expiring before you can do anything. I bought from Germany, paid paypal and never heard a word from the seller when I got a little concerned after 4 weeks. The kit did show up but took 8 weeks to get to me.

I've had some recent issues with this seller.
I purchased an 'as new and sealed' Tamiya Calsonic R32 Skyline from him off ebay and when I received it the decal bag had been opened,the decals were now frail,cracked and yellow making them useless. (yes I realise it's an old kit,1990 to be exact??) I enquired about the damaged decals and he said it would not be a problem and he would replace them.This all started in Oct last year.
He told me several times they were already sent (although he kept changing the dates they were sent) until most recently he said they were sent early January,I waited over a month until I emailed him again as I still had not received the decals. The entire time I have been very polite and patient but this has not seemed to have helped at all. I sent another email recently asking if he could tell me when they were sent as I have still not received them.He has still not replied to this message.I even asked for the part number so I could try to order them myself from Tamiya.
Does anyone know if you can still order them from Tamiya? When I checked the site they listed the kit only as 'discontinued'..studio 27 does not list these decals either..does anyone know where I can purchase them? I really want to build this kit!!

He needs to get checked out by ebay. This has gotten out of hand. I will say this though anytime you buy overseas like this with guys selling hard to get kits at a really good price be cautious. I was lucky with bboykorea and didn't have major issues but all of these complaints are ridiculous he is a terrible seller. Everyone on here should neg. rep his feedback.

He needs to get checked out by ebay. This has gotten out of hand. I will say this though anytime you buy overseas like this with guys selling hard to get kits at a really good price be cautious. I was lucky with bboykorea and didn't have major issues but all of these complaints are ridiculous he is a terrible seller. Everyone on here should neg. rep his feedback.


Looks to me like people are making an elephant out of a mosquito, again.
He's got 98% positive feedback, which isn't all that bad after all the articles he's sold.

Also we can't give negative feedback unless we don't buy from him. And I can't give him negative feedback as long as I had no bad experience with him when I bought from him.

Tell you what, don't buy from him if you are so insecure.

Some people love to complain over and over again, like in the other thread about the Tamiya F1 kits, when there was a missing part in the kit and the buyer made it look like if it was the end of the world. :rolleyes:

Looks to me like people are making an elephant out of a mosquito, again.
He's got 98% positive feedback, which isn't all that bad after all the articles he's sold.

Also we can't give negative feedback unless we don't buy from him. And I can't give him negative feedback as long as I had no bad experience with him when I bought from him.

Tell you what, don't buy from him if you are so insecure.

Some people love to complain over and over again, like in the other thread about the Tamiya F1 kits, when there was a missing part in the kit and the buyer made it look like if it was the end of the world. :rolleyes:

I haven't had problems with the guy. But when you have 6 pages of complaints somthings wrong.

I haven't had problems with the guy. But when you have 6 pages of complaints somthings wrong.

Yeah something's wrong but it's not the ebay seller as much as people who think they can buy something on the cheap on the net and get the same customer service they get in their LHS.
Some people need to grow up and stop whining.

I hope BBOY gets his act together because we all agree his prices are good. He's eliminated some basic things in order to pass the savings on to us and unfortunately for some that results in damaged goods. I think Jano might have a different opinion if he had purchased a $200 item and received it crushed beyond recognition as some customers have. It's like Russian Roulette in a way; five of the people enjoy the game.

The damage I saw in my kit was from crushing as a result of postal carriers stacking heavy boxes in columns on top of the kit. I suggested to BBOY that he reinforce the perimeter of the kit boxes with a strip of cardboard before wrapping in his usual ricepaper. That cardboard strip would provide added support and help resist compression during transport without adding much to his overhead costs or the weight of the parcel.

He didn't reply.

I think Jano might have a different opinion if he had purchased a $200 item and received it crushed beyond recognition as some customers have. It's like Russian Roulette in a way; five of the people enjoy the game.

I bought two times 2 kits from him (some 100€ all in all), and even if the packaging wasn't excellent I didn't see any warped part in my kits.
It obviously happened to others that the kits didn't arrive in good condition, and it happened to me too with other ebay sellers, from HK and Europe too (who only wraped the kit in a paper with no additional care).

The damage I saw in my kit was from crushing as a result of postal carriers stacking heavy boxes in columns on top of the kit. I suggested to BBOY that he reinforce the perimeter of the kit boxes with a strip of cardboard before wrapping in his usual ricepaper. That cardboard strip would provide added support and help resist compression during transport without adding much to his overhead costs or the weight of the parcel.

He didn't reply.

He sometimes replies to email inquiries, but not always, I've had mixed results with this too. But I do not blame him given the number of articles he sells.

You can't expect to send fragile model kits (and lets be honest they are fragile) various distances around the globe with no protective packaging and the kits simply wrapped in paper. It just will not suffice. Anyone selling model kits knows they are fragile and if they don't then they shouldn't be selling them. I personally think that a bit of good customer service costs little and goes a long way. A happy customer is one that will buy from you again and again. A disgruntled customer will avoid you at all costs. If people are complaining then they aren't happy. A couple of complaints maybe one could expect, but when there are many, something is wrong, somewhere. A good seller listens to their customers and then improves their service where they need to. Just because he sells a lot of stuff it doesn't mean he can slack off on customer service.

Tell you what, stick to your LHS, that way no worries at all.
If the post workers doesn't take care they can certainly squash any kit unless it has a wooden or metal casing.
Still I don't see anyone complain about the post but rather about the seller even if he clearly didn't post a squashed model.

When I sell on eBay I do pack everything in cardboad boxes. However it takes a hell of a time to find suitable boxes and do the packaging, to such an extent that sometimes I even wonder if the price I get for an article is worth the lost time.

The guy will not have enough time to do a much better job unless he orders spec boxes and asks us to pay another 5usd for each of them. and if he does that everyone will be moaning about how he is a cheat and inflates the shipping costs.

To be honest it's a lose/lose situation for him, given that people have a very biased view of things.

So you're saying, that if I bought some fine china plates by mail, and I received them wrapped in paper, completely smashed, that it is the fault of the post office, and not the seller?

You are being completely ridiculous.

So you're saying, that if I bought some fine china plates by mail, and I received them wrapped in paper, completely smashed, that it is the fault of the post office, and not the seller?

You are being completely ridiculous.

Sorry to disappoint you but model kits have their own cardboard packaging.

Am I ridiculous?!
I suggest you take a good look in the mirror next time before being rude.

The cardboard boxes that model kits comein are flimsy and little better than paper themselves. Look at HLJ's shipping - heavy gauge cardboard, it's definitely a LOT better than just wrapping in paper. Jano, your stating that it is entirely the post's fault really does sound a bit ridiculous. If you went to the car dealer to pick up a new car you ordered, and it had been smashed to hell because it wasn't transported properly, you wouldn't accept it. I understand you haven't been burned by this seller, which is fine - but others have and you need to let them discuss their issues. The way you defend the seller so strongly just seems a little odd to me.

Buying on e-bay is both purchasing the item, and some semblance of a guarantee that you will get your item in a useable fashion. That is, after all, why there is a description and photos there. Buyers should have a reasonable expectation that their items arrive safely - there can always be mishaps, yes, but the seller should be taking reasonable precautions. Surely they understand how the post works just as well as we do, that things can be stacked on it, etc. He is, after all, posting his listings as "100% Perfect Condition" - if/when a buyer receives a pile of mangled plastic, how do they know it wasn't like that when it was shipped?

Bottom line is - people can buy from him if they accept the risk of the packaging - you always take some risk on ebay. But he should clearly state the shipping approach (and from some of the items earlier in the thread, it sounds like he says in e-mail he's doing more than he is, and not giving you the option to have it better packed for increased money). And the fact that he doesn't respond to e-mails (regardless of how many items he is selling) is not acceptable to me. So for me, I won't order from him. And I appreciate that people have voiced these concerns so I can spend my hard-earned money somewhere that I can actually get what I paid for.

Sorry to disappoint you but model kits have their own cardboard packaging.

Am I ridiculous?!
I suggest you take a good look in the mirror next time before being rude.

LOL! I would hardly consider a model kit's box to be "cardboard". It is common knowledge that packages and mail are not treated very gently for the sake of efficiency. A customer has the right to expect that their package arrive in the condition they purchased it in, regardless if they paid $20, or $200, and it is up to the seller to minimize the risks of damage by making sure it is protected. Your reasoning that because the seller is selling his items for less than the competition, he is allowed to skimp on packaging and deliver damaged products is just wrong.

So, yes. You are being absolutely ridiculous.

I suggest you take a good look at your posts and see how senseless your arguments are. It almost seems like you are doing it for the sake of being obnoxious.

The cardboard boxes that model kits comein are flimsy and little better than paper themselves. Look at HLJ's shipping - heavy gauge cardboard, it's definitely a LOT better than just wrapping in paper. Jano, your stating that it is entirely the post's fault really does sound a bit ridiculous. If you went to the car dealer to pick up a new car you ordered, and it had been smashed to hell because it wasn't transported properly, you wouldn't accept it. I understand you haven't been burned by this seller, which is fine - but others have and you need to let them discuss their issues. The way you defend the seller so strongly just seems a little odd to me.


There is nothing odd in defending someone, at least not more than how odd it is that people are fighting to have his head because they expected to pay 10USD instead of 100USD but still get 100USD worth of kit AND services.

The guy still has 98% positive feedback, and given how many articles he's sold, that he ships worldwide and all the rest I find that OK.

Also as far as I know he offers to replace broken or missing items.

I'd like to know how many of those complaining about crushed packages did ask the post man why the package was crushed and ask for a refund from the post?! Not many I think.

For those who are so much against the dangers of buying from HK sellers I advise to buy from the local LHS and see if you are happy paying 2 or 3 times more for the same article.

I'll continue buying on eBay knowing that things might go wrong and that I can ask them to replace broken parts or get my money back. It happened to me already several times.

LOL! I would hardly consider a model kit's box to be "cardboard". It is common knowledge that packages and mail are not treated very gently for the sake of efficiency. A customer has the right to expect that their package arrive in the condition they purchased it in, regardless if they paid $20, or $200, and it is up to the seller to minimize the risks of damage by making sure it is protected. Your reasoning that because the seller is selling his items for less than the competition, he is allowed to skimp on packaging and deliver damaged products is just wrong.

So, yes. You are being absolutely ridiculous.

I suggest you take a good look at your posts and see how senseless your arguments are. It almost seems like you are doing it for the sake of being obnoxious.

Your rubbish is not worth of a decent answer, and this is my last answer to your attacks.

are you saying that the seller has no responsiblity whatsoever to the buyer, to ensure that what is has paid for doesn't reach the buyer in the same condition as it left the seller?

Only an idiot would defend shipping model car kits across the world in only a paper-wrapped kit box. Kit boxes are for holding contents for sale on a store shelf, kits are not meant to be shipped in their boxes. They're shipped from the mfg. in case quantity in real cardboard boxes.

Sorry, but it's not the fault of the shipper, it's the fault of the seller.

At the very least the seller should make it perfectly clear to customers how their kits will be shipped. Of course they do not. They should offer stronger shipping containers, even if it increases cost. Make that option to the buyer. Of course, they do not.

No, this seller just takes the money, wraps in paper, and lets the customer suffer. Feedback means little if you read between the lines.

I can't fathom how anyone could continue to apologize for sellers that practice this sort of shipping without letting their customers know ahead of time how their items will be shipped. Unbelievable. :disappoin

Only an idiot would defend shipping model car kits across the world in only a paper-wrapped kit box. :disappoin

And only a very low human being would call others idiots just because they have a different opinion.

Sorry, but it's not the fault of the shipper, it's the fault of the seller.

At the very least the seller should make it perfectly clear to customers how their kits will be shipped. Of course they do not. They should offer stronger shipping containers, even if it increases cost. Make that option to the buyer.

PS: Next time you send a letter by post make sure you put it in a titanium case, otherwise who knows what might happen to it because the post is not responsible for it according to you.

are you saying that the seller has no responsiblity whatsoever to the buyer, to ensure that what is has paid for doesn't reach the buyer in the same condition as it left the seller?

I'm not sure I understand your phrase, but I'll try to give an answer.

What I ordered from bboykorea always arrived with all parts intact.
Yes it was only wrapped in a green paper. But it also had "Fragile" written all over it with big lettering.
Also all the parts in the kits were wrapped in bubble wrap and the body shells were also filed with bubble wrap and wrapped into a piece of it in order not to brake.

IMO the post is responsible for not throwing around packages that have Fragile written on them, and not to put heavy boxes on top of them either.
Do you really think that a cardboard box is enough protection against such abuse?!

I don't know how much he earns on the kits he sells but I'm rather sure that it is very little given the prices he offers.

And what I stress since ever is that people who want a kit on the cheapo should not expect to be treated like they were at the Ritz.

I'll stop posting in this thread as it is evident that everyone made up hi/her mind and some already went the full length of it and started being very rude, for whatever reason they have.

Sending anything like a plastic model kit overseas without sufficient protection amounts to not much more than negligence.
If kits are being recorded as being damaged when it arrives in the sellers' hands, then that implies that the protection is not sufficient.

And stop with the hyperbole.
No one is asking for metal cases; just a sufficiently strong box in which you can put the kit box into.
As you are so eager to point out, this seller in particular sells thousands of kits.
He is also based in Hong Kong a place where if one so desires, one can order boxes commercially fit for purpose, for mere cents per unit as other online retailers such as HLJ does.

As was pointed out before, the box a kit is packaged in is not designed for heavy duty handling as may occur during the postal service.
Bubble wrap inside the packaging box is not much good because the box itself isn't strong.
If you have never had broken parts from him, fine, well done but that doesn't change the fact that the seller is being negligent.

The low cost isn't the issue here.
If you paid 50 cents for a burger, does that excuse the seller if you get food poisoning?
Would it be ok because not every one who eats those 50 cent burgers get food poisoning?

So far I've seen the issues going back and forth with bboykorea. The one person i've been making my purchase on ebay is another seller in Hong Kong call icanucan his turn around time was about 2wk shipped to me from HK to So Cal. not to bad packaging is good. Seller pretty much bubble wraps his stuff so can't complain and everything I get isn't dinged up so I give a recommendation to him if you guys want another seller to look at.

No one is asking for metal cases; just a sufficiently strong box in which you can put the kit box into.

Define "sufficiently strong box in which you can put the kit box into".

It will for sure be function of how it is treated by the post. So the strongest the better, thus I proposed a titanium case even though it might not survive an airplane crash and for sure it will be bboykorea's fault that the kit wasn't better protected.

The world isn't perfect and people should learn to live with it, this is my point.

So far I've seen the issues going back and forth with bboykorea. The one person i've been making my purchase on ebay is another seller in Hong Kong call icanucan his turn around time was about 2wk shipped to me from HK to So Cal. not to bad packaging is good. Seller pretty much bubble wraps his stuff so can't complain and everything I get isn't dinged up so I give a recommendation to him if you guys want another seller to look at.

I agree, he does an excellent job!

The guy still has 98% positive feedback, and given how many articles he's sold, that he ships worldwide and all the rest I find that OK.

that's precisely this running argument that makes you ridiculous !!!

98% positive feedback is illusion, 250 negs are a reality !!!

Anyone not completely stupid would know and understand that this rate is artificial to catch naive people to his sales...
only you refuse to admit the reality...

one have to be really naive or crazy to pretend than such a negs rate is buyer fact (and not a problem when you sale so much) and pretend this seller is a nice recommended guy and defending so hard that point of view surely makes you so ridiculous...!!

everyone buying to this seller knows he has a chance not to receive his kit...
I don't care there are 1500 positive or I don't know how many, I see he has 250 or so negatives for not sent or broken etc reason...

You love to risk your money buying to him ?! so what that's you're choice !!
but don't think we are stupid or naive and try page after page and post after post with such ridiculous argument to make us believe this seller is a kind of victim of unhappy or jalous buyers only because he still have 98%...
Some seller have 12000 sales and almost 100% positive if not 100% or even not 10 negs in their whole presence on Ebay !
that's why some of us think this is moreover riduculous, simply stupid !
because defending bad sellers only is encouraging them !

I agree, he does an excellent job!

crap better yet anyone is interested he has his own website and purchase w/ shipping is way cheaper then ebay by a few dollars. if I recall its kenncer.com sign up and get 10% off that includes shipping. if you buy 2 or more items he or she refunds you the shipping difference so thats a huge plus.

Define "sufficiently strong box in which you can put the kit box into".

I already have.
have you ordered from HLJ before?
The boxes they use are more than up to the task of being thrown around by whatever postal service. And before you come up with some rediculous price for those boxes, have a look here (http://www.packaging2u.co.uk/?gclid=COP0-8j7jpkCFYR_3god4kR9Zg) for UK prices.

So the strongest the better, thus I proposed a titanium case even though it might not survive an airplane crash and for sure it will be bboykorea's fault that the kit wasn't better protected.

Again, hyperbole does nothing for your argument.
As I put forward before that you conveniently ignored, does cheap food mean it's ok to get food poisoning from it?

Tell you what, how about I start selling kits for a quarter of their rrp, then randomly break half the kit?
Then if someone complains, I can say, "well, what did you expect? I'm selling you the kit for a 1/4 of rrp"


In case you weren't aware, I deliberately used terms that would be used in a court if this sort of case were to be taken that far.
Negligence, fit for purpose, responsibilty.

98% positive feedback is illusion, 250 negs are a reality !!!

IMO 98% is reality and 250 negatives are relative.

250 negative, positive, neutral, white, black, pink, green, whatever you want means nothing, as long you don't put it into a context.

It's like saying that earning 10000 whatever a month is a lot without looking that you need 1 million to buy yourself a house for example.

Anyway, I lost enough precious time on this and I'm not willing to lose any second more.

You do whatever you think it's right for you and I'll do what I think it's right for me (without calling others ridiculous or idiots).

I already have.


No you didn't.


have you ordered from HLJ before?
The boxes they use are more than up to the task of being thrown around by whatever postal service. And before you come up with some rediculous price for those boxes, have a look here (http://www.packaging2u.co.uk/?gclid=COP0-8j7jpkCFYR_3god4kR9Zg) for UK prices.


Yes I did, and their shipping prices are the highest I ever paid for model kits, so I did pay a couple euros for that nice box they use, it didn't come for free.
So I don't buy from them anymore, R10 has cheaper cardboard boxes. :D



Again, hyperbole does nothing for your argument.


It's still more than no argument at all, like you do.


As I put forward before that you conveniently ignored, does cheap food mean it's ok to get food poisoning from it?

It wasn't my intention to ignore it, sorry.
I don't buy cheap food, I only buy Bio or Organic food.
Why is that? cause I'm not after buying cheap and than complaining on a board that is someone else's fault.



Tell you what, how about I start selling kits for a quarter of their rrp, then randomly break half the kit?
Then if someone complains, I can say, "well, what did you expect? I'm selling you the kit for a 1/4 of rrp"


Be my guest. If you manage to get 98% of them in good shape to me I'll buy them all.


In case you weren't aware, I deliberately used terms that would be used in a court if this sort of case were to be taken that far.
Negligence, fit for purpose, responsibilty.

No matter the terms used, you doesn't have a case, to start with.

Have a nice evening.

cause I'm not after buying cheap and than complaining on a board that is someone else's fault.

so are you saying it's not his fault that he doesn't package the kits better so they are better protected against the postal service?
i.e once the kit is paid for, he doesn't have to care?

The simple fact is, no matter what hyperbole you want to dish up, he doesn't package the kits in a manner suitable for the handling that occurs during posting.
He is responsible for their damage as it is his negligence in providing packaging fit for purpose.

Tell me why this would not be sufficient for a case?

so are you saying it's not his fault that he doesn't package the kits better so they are better protected against the postal service?
i.e once the kit is paid for, he doesn't have to care?

Once the kit is accepted by the postal service it's their job to get it to the other end of the world in one piece.

You still didn't tell me what kind of packaging is strong enough.
Let's say it will be the lowest package in a pile of 10 packages each o those above it weighing only 2 kgs. Will it resist to 18 kgs? Maybe, under a static charge, but what if the lorry with the packages goes over a bump or something or what if the one on top of it is smaller and will brake the top of the cardboard box the kit is packed in?! How strong does that box need to be in order to be 100% sure it get's to you in good shape?

My point is that once someone brings a package to the post, it writes "Fragile" all over it and it pays for it to be delivered to the other side of the world, well it's not anymore up to him if someone will brake it.
Given that 98% of them arrived OK tells me that the 2% of broken or lost items are accidents that happen during the handling of the package.

This is my opinion, even after receiving squashed kits wrapped in paper sent from only 30 kms away, after getting paper wrapped kits in good shape from the other side of the world and also after getting squashed kits tat were packed in a cardboard box!

PS: What I find funny is how people went on and bought kits from him long after this thread existed, and than they come here and start moaning.

Once the kit is accepted by the postal service it's their job to get it to the other end of the world in one piece.

You still didn't tell me what kind of packaging is strong enough.
Let's say it will be the lowest package in a pile of 10 packages each o those above it weighing only 2 kgs. Will it resist to 18 kgs? Maybe, under a static charge, but what if the lorry with the packages goes over a bump or something or what if the one on top of it is smaller and will brake the top of the cardboard box the kit is packed in?! How strong does that box need to be in order to be 100% sure it get's to you in good shape?

My point is that once someone brings a package to the post, it writes "Fragile" all over it and it pays for it to be delivered to the other side of the world, well it's not anymore up to him if someone will brake it.
Given that 98% of them arrived OK tells me that the 2% of broken or lost items are accidents that happen during the handling of the package.

This is my opinion, even after receiving squashed kits wrapped in paper sent from only 30 kms away, after getting paper wrapped kits in good shape from the other side of the world and also after getting squashed kits tat were packed in a cardboard box!

PS: What I find funny is how people went on and bought kits from him long after this thread existed, and than they come here and start moaning.

So are you saying that the seller is not responsible at all once the item has been paid for?
Are you saying that a bit of bubble wrap inside a soft cardboard box is sufficient protection for something that is "fragile"?
Are you saying that the postal service is responsible for badly packaged parcels?

I have stood on HLJ boxes.
I weigh about 60kgs.

Because you missed it again, that is one example of a suitable box that I have given time and time again; the HLJ boxes.
Also, I have previously provided a link to a UK supplier of various packaging boxes.

If you only have hyperbole to rely on for your argument, you are the one who has no case.

IMO 98% is reality and 250 negatives are relative.

Of course if you inverse all argue into your sens you can only be right...
and after that you don't want to be called "ridiculous" ?? :eek7: :lol: :lol:

250 negative, positive, neutral, white, black, pink, green, whatever you want means nothing, as long you don't put it into a context.

So what and what is this context...?? :eek7:
how can you say that negs number is relative when total amount is only an amount of anything else (+ and - and 0) ???

It's like saying that earning 10000 whatever a month is a lot without looking that you need 1 million to buy yourself a house for example.

So that's your famous context ??
No matter the number of negs as long as he keeps a certain positive rate ??
completely no sens...
the amount and final rate only is... the amount of each part of the rate !!
for sure if he increased his negs feedbacks he also increase the total amount (and so final rate) in which negs are dissolved...!!
so what is contextual and what is relative there ????
this argue of final rate definitely has no sens !!
just take a look at sellers who have 2 or 3 times more amount of auctions and... 100 times less negs !!!

You do whatever you think it's right for you and I'll do what I think it's right for me (without calling others ridiculous or idiots).

if you don't want to be called ridiculous or idiot don't act like if you were idiot with so ridiculous argument !! :icon16:


You've been defending all along 8 pages a seller everyone is OK to say he's not reliable and have bad pratice with selling and sending items with no sens arguments so don't be surprised to be seen ridiculous or even idiot even if I personaly don't think you're idiot, but for sure you seem to be because you hardly wants to be right agains all evidences...

So are you saying that the seller is not responsible at all once the item has been paid for?

NO, once he shipped the goods.It must be the 3rd time I post this. :banghead:


Are you saying that a bit of bubble wrap inside a soft cardboard box is sufficient protection for something that is "fragile"?

Yes it is, about as sufficient as with a cardboard box but a rather empty box inside. Especially if the package is handled as it should by the post.


Are you saying that the postal service is responsible for badly packaged parcels?

Actually for all the packages they get their hands on!


I have stood on HLJ boxes.
I weigh about 60kgs.

I tried once to stand on a cardboard box I used for moving from one place to another, one with double walls and it failed miserably. BTW I only weight 10 kgs more than you.


Because you missed it again, that is one example of a suitable box that I have given time and time again; the HLJ boxes.

I didn't miss anything. Saying HLJ box is like saying donut, it doesn't quantify how strong a box needs to be.


Also, I have previously provided a link to a UK supplier of various packaging boxes.

And?! Should I call them up and ask how strong a box needs to be in order to safely contain a plastic kit inside, for about two weeks while it is being tossed around like if it was a brick?


If you only have hyperbole to rely on for your argument, you are the one who has no case.

I was expecting numbers from you, as you were giving me the impression that you are a cardboard box specialist, and al I got was a hyperbole about HLJ boxes.

So I'll ask, where is your case? I certainly don't see any facts or numbers coming from you only comparisons with HLJ boxes, like if they were International Standard Measure Units. :screwy:

Please folks, we're all friends. Let's try to avoid insulting words and stick to the subject itself.

Jano, no amount of argument will convince others in this thread that BBOY is a good seller including me so please stop trying. It's not going to change anything and you could have a heart attack or something.

I've had some dealings with the US postal system trying to collect on damaged goods claims. They simply will not honor a claim if they deem the packaging insufficient to withstand a "reasonable" amount of static weight and acceleration. I would assume most PO's around the world are the same. They have no idea how effectively the contents are protected by the packer when the parcel is handed to them and should not be liable.

I've bought from HLJ and found their service excellent, their boxes were double corrugated and the contents restrained from shifting etc. But I don't buy from HLJ anymore because I personally think their prices are a bit too high. I've found other sources with equal performance at a better price and that to me means better value.

Value = Service / Price

Jano, no amount of argument will convince others in this thread that BBOY is a good seller including me so please stop trying.

Same goes from my side.


It's not going to change anything

That is obvious.


and you could have a heart attack or something.

If anything this keeps me in good form. ;)


Honestly, I couldn't care less about bboykorea's seller performance. What bothers me is people who pay for peanuts and expect to receive coconuts and than publicly complain about it.

al I got was a hyperbole about HLJ boxes.

So I'll ask, where is your case? I certainly don't see any facts or numbers coming from you only comparisons with HLJ boxes, like if they were International Standard Measure Units. :screwy:

Please point to my hyperbole about HLJ boxes?
If you really want proof, I can try and take a photo of myself standing on a HLJ box.
If you won't accept HLJ boxes because they're perhaps over specified for the job, I have an equally strong Amazon single wall box that can take my weight.
I even have a box that Hiroboy uses that I can stand on for you.

For comparison, how about you take a kit of yours, wrap it up like how this seller did with bubble wrap and you step on it and see what happens?

No quantifiable numbers?
Doesn't my 60 odd kgs on a box count as a figure?

Honestly, I couldn't care less about bboykorea's seller performance. What bothers me is people who pay for peanuts and expect to receive coconuts and than publicly complain about it.

but that isn't what is being discussed.
People aren't buying cheaper/worse goods.
They are buying the same goods that are then packaged badly and occasionally broken during posting.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the goods but the quality of the service.

Blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah.

That's all I hear.

Go build a model, instead of spending your life defending something that nobody in the world but yourself will defend. Unless you are the seller in question...

What a bloody waste of time... :lol:

THIS IS A STRANGE SELLER...
As i was informed about the problems caused by his soft packages I prayed him to make a hard box around my 2 1/12 Tamiya Porsches... He did a good job. Then i had many problem with a Hasegawa Cosmo Sport that he sent me (he told me) 3 times... Never received until some days ago after i left a neutral feedback: a ball shrinked green paper with some broken plastic pieces inside.... I suspect that he is not un-honest, but.... not well organised and a little bit... un-smart...

I know that formally the postal service is the only responsible of shipping once the seller give the item to the post office, but if boxes exist and almost every ebayer use them maybe this is for some reason.... I can confirm that his boxes are crazy. I will never buy from him again although i did great bargains with him.

Fact is this sellers packaging is 'p**s poor' no one surely can dispute this. If you send a package, inadequately protected, half way around the world and it gets broken it's not the fault of the postal service but the seller, because HE never protected it well enough in the first place. All he needs to do is protect the goods in a strong box. But people argue still "define a strong box" One that stops the stuff getting damaged, simple. Stop splitting hairs over a box.
His feedback score gets no better. Whilst this thread has been active he is still racking up the negatives with 34 in the last month alone. Every page of his feedback ratings are littered with red and grey instead of green. So many negatives do not look good and they certainly do not portray a seller that cares either.

Jano11

I'm not having a personal attack on you or anything but how you can look at those pages upon pages of red negative feedbacks, read why people have given them and still defend BBOY is baffling to me...??

I think that it's the seller's responsibility to take in context of the abuse the box will go through once it's delivered to the postal or delivery service. The delivery or postal service workers only deliver the package and therefore are not responsible for the damage it goes through unless you specify it to them in the first place to take care of it by putting fragile stickers and stamps all over the box. Only then will it be the postal service or delivery service's fault if they end up damaging the goods or boxes (That is what insurance is for) and such.

If the sender can't do a good job in packaging, then it would be that person's fault in the first place. When I use crappy boxes to send my stuff, I make sure I package it real good by using foam or packaging foam to make sure the good inside comes out okay at the end. I also wrap it in bubble and paper to make sure the weather doesn't get to it as well.

Hi,
I´m new to this forum, and almost new to modeling.

Sometime in the past few months I found that this person was selling a kit that I´d like to build in a really good price.

Today I was sucked into this thread, and just for curious wanted to check if he still have kits like that one, but I didnt find him on ebay anymore, so, was he banned from there? And if that is so, I think Im glad to know that, because he p***** off a lot of people stealing their money... But thats just my opinion.:disappoin

Take care,
B.

Banned from Ebay?

Priceless :lol:

At least somewhere in the world there is a semblance of sanity.

I guess its not worth sharing my horror story with everyone now this ebay menace has been BANNED, after reading ebays new seller rules i was just waiting for this ass to get his crap bizniz banned.

BUT lets just see where he pops up again under a new name
and does the same thing all over.

With a name like bboykorea i was suspicious
cuz most b boys i know are CRIMS.
rack it up fool

YEEEAAAA BWOOOOY.

HAHAAA.

With a name like bboykorea i was suspicious
cuz most b boys i know are CRIMS.
rack it up fool

YEEEAAAA BWOOOOY.

HAHAAA.

Very intelligent! :shakehead

You must be a b boy as well
Sorry to offend
the truth is often hard to digest.
Or do you just want to get into a debate about hip hop culture?