Clueless About Audio
Kappasocer08
10-13-2001, 11:34 PM
What would be the best sounding yet not to expensive sound system i can get? All the speakers are blown to HELL in my car right now...and I have $0. So i need to get 4 new midrangers 4 no more then $300 THANX ALOT!
Kappasocer08
10-15-2001, 07:21 PM
Guess Nobody wants to answer me :bloated: kinda sucks! well :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: .....
J/K!:smoka: :rolleyes: :p
J/K!:smoka: :rolleyes: :p
olds88
10-18-2001, 10:52 PM
well you can get a 100 dollar sony cd deck and 3way 6x9s pioneere with 2 1/2 fronts for about 350 us and thats what i started out with and it sounded prety good
Tireburner
10-19-2001, 09:11 AM
Actually I would go with a Pioneer head unit and speakers. Pioneer makes speakers that fit in the funny shaped holes a lot of manufacturers have.
Just from personal experience, and not to dis. the previous poster, I have had real bad luck with Sony audio products.
Just from personal experience, and not to dis. the previous poster, I have had real bad luck with Sony audio products.
Polygon
10-23-2001, 10:02 AM
I’m sorry; I have to disagree with you both. I am not much for Pioneer when it comes to the deck. And as for Sony, don't buy any of their car stereo products, they make great TV's but car audio is not their forte. For the deck I would stick with Kenwood, Alpine, or Clarion. In that order.
For speakers get MB Quartz, Kenwood, or Infinity. Pioneer speakers are ok; make sure you get the premier line of speakers if you do. Also stick with stock sizes like the 6"x9"s in the back and 5"-6" in the doors.
For speakers get MB Quartz, Kenwood, or Infinity. Pioneer speakers are ok; make sure you get the premier line of speakers if you do. Also stick with stock sizes like the 6"x9"s in the back and 5"-6" in the doors.
Tireburner
10-23-2001, 10:08 AM
The reason I suggested Pioneer was because of his budget. If he was looking at adding amps and going high end, then hands down I would agree with your choices of speakers.
As for the deck, everything you suggested are very high quality units (except the Clarion --ewwwww) And all can be had pretty close to the cost of a Pioneer.
As for the deck, everything you suggested are very high quality units (except the Clarion --ewwwww) And all can be had pretty close to the cost of a Pioneer.
Polygon
10-23-2001, 10:19 AM
Ya' good point.
If he is going for less exspensive Pioneer is alright, ahd two that went bad on me, but I suspect the actual wiring of the car they were in.
And hey I liked my old clarion. :D It lasted me good seven years before the internal amp died, then just recently I bought the Kenwood MP3 deck.
Now what do you think about Blaupunkt? "SP"
If he is going for less exspensive Pioneer is alright, ahd two that went bad on me, but I suspect the actual wiring of the car they were in.
And hey I liked my old clarion. :D It lasted me good seven years before the internal amp died, then just recently I bought the Kenwood MP3 deck.
Now what do you think about Blaupunkt? "SP"
Tireburner
10-23-2001, 10:31 AM
Blaupunkt's quality is rising again. A couple years ago they got caught up in the low price race. ( I think they subleted a lot of product to other manufacturers) Now their quality is rising again, but because of the problems they had earlier, a lot of shops are a little gun shy to carry their product.
Clarion used to make super quality product, but lately that has been slipping. It may be due to trying to spread to too many areas (audio, security, navigation, video) and maybe it's spreading their engineers too thin.
Clarion used to make super quality product, but lately that has been slipping. It may be due to trying to spread to too many areas (audio, security, navigation, video) and maybe it's spreading their engineers too thin.
Polygon
10-23-2001, 10:38 AM
Ya, the newer Clarion stuff is goin' south. Thus why I bought my Kenwood to replace it.
Kappasocer08
10-23-2001, 09:32 PM
So what do you guys think of Alpine and Infinity? Someone told me those two are the best money could buy. Is that a load of crap or is that true? Thanx alot! You guys seem to know ALOT about systems.
Polygon
10-23-2001, 10:59 PM
Alpine makes great decks, and Infinity makes great speakers. They arent the best but they a pretty good.
Tireburner
10-24-2001, 08:23 AM
Alpine is one of the top choices for a lot of people. They build a very good product.
Infinity for home systems is awesome, but for cars, it is not my first choice. Most Infinity speakers (automotive only) have built in amplifiers, thus making it hard to upgrade, or add additional power. When a car manufacturer does a complete Infinity system specifically designed for a vehicle (Grand Cherokee for example) they sound good (not excellent) and the system played properly (not maxed out volume for extended periods of time) will last as long as the vehicle.
If you are looking for the best of the best in head units, I would have to say Nakamichi (sp?) is it.
Infinity for home systems is awesome, but for cars, it is not my first choice. Most Infinity speakers (automotive only) have built in amplifiers, thus making it hard to upgrade, or add additional power. When a car manufacturer does a complete Infinity system specifically designed for a vehicle (Grand Cherokee for example) they sound good (not excellent) and the system played properly (not maxed out volume for extended periods of time) will last as long as the vehicle.
If you are looking for the best of the best in head units, I would have to say Nakamichi (sp?) is it.
Kappasocer08
10-24-2001, 10:28 PM
Never heard of them...ill ask my friend! Thanx Alot man! U Guys are the :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka: :smoka:
Steel
10-31-2001, 05:27 PM
This is what im planning on:
2- Polk 6.5 inch with 1.5 inch tweeters
2- Polk 6x9 's midrange in the back
2- 12 inch i think i twas MTX? subs in box not enclosed or vented
1- 60 watt sony midrange amp
1- Kenwood 600 watt sub amp
all this, with installation for only $1600.
Polks are really good, ONLY if you amplify them though. If you play polks on a stock radio, or even new radio without amplifying them, the distortion will kill them. They hunger for power, and when you give it to them, they sound fantastic. Im gonna have a Metal Monster truck now, to drown out all of those damn riced out CRX's and Civics playing rap.
2- Polk 6.5 inch with 1.5 inch tweeters
2- Polk 6x9 's midrange in the back
2- 12 inch i think i twas MTX? subs in box not enclosed or vented
1- 60 watt sony midrange amp
1- Kenwood 600 watt sub amp
all this, with installation for only $1600.
Polks are really good, ONLY if you amplify them though. If you play polks on a stock radio, or even new radio without amplifying them, the distortion will kill them. They hunger for power, and when you give it to them, they sound fantastic. Im gonna have a Metal Monster truck now, to drown out all of those damn riced out CRX's and Civics playing rap.
RockfordF1
01-30-2004, 09:08 PM
Steel, you and me both man. No more of that damn rap shit. Im cruising around with some damn Slayer and Nirvanna man. But hey if you get MTX's dont get anything under 6000 Series.
bumpinstang77
01-30-2004, 09:40 PM
I wouldn't get MTX if I was you. Their prices are very high for subs that aren't very high wattage. If your looking to get a more popular brand I would go with something like fosgates or jl's. And I must say that the polks sound very good. About pioneer 6x9's... I wouldn't reccomend them, the highs on them distort easily and the mids on them aren't loud enough.
Haibane
01-31-2004, 12:18 PM
I would go for a pair of CDTs, you can get at www.thezeb.com (http://www.thezeb.com) Much better than any of that other crap. These are higher SQ.
Rich
01-31-2004, 03:35 PM
About pioneer 6x9's... I wouldn't reccomend them, the highs on them distort easily and the mids on them aren't loud enough.
I have to call bull$hit on this one. I personally have owned a couple different sets of Pioneer 6x9's (a set of 3way's and a set of 4ways), and with the amount of power that they were rated for, they sounded amazing.
I have to call bull$hit on this one. I personally have owned a couple different sets of Pioneer 6x9's (a set of 3way's and a set of 4ways), and with the amount of power that they were rated for, they sounded amazing.
Haibane
01-31-2004, 05:06 PM
Rich, you may have some good working pionneers, but there are much better speakers that are cleaner and louder for the same cost with probably less power.
Rich
01-31-2004, 08:49 PM
Rich, you may have some good working pionneers, but there are much better speakers that are cleaner and louder for the same cost with probably less power.
I agree with you Haibane, but that doesn't mean they arent a good speaker. Just depends what you are going to do with them. I was just defending them against the quote that bumpinstang77 made, saying
About pioneer 6x9's... I wouldn't reccomend them, the highs on them distort easily and the mids on them aren't loud enough
I do agree that there are better speakers out there, but I personally (Just IMHO) think that Pioneer speakers are not overpriced for what you are getting.
Also, I am not looking to start a brand war here, so I will drop the subject now.
I agree with you Haibane, but that doesn't mean they arent a good speaker. Just depends what you are going to do with them. I was just defending them against the quote that bumpinstang77 made, saying
About pioneer 6x9's... I wouldn't reccomend them, the highs on them distort easily and the mids on them aren't loud enough
I do agree that there are better speakers out there, but I personally (Just IMHO) think that Pioneer speakers are not overpriced for what you are getting.
Also, I am not looking to start a brand war here, so I will drop the subject now.
loismustdie
01-31-2004, 09:00 PM
i didn't read all the posts so someone might have said this,
for your budget i would say that infinity's would be great and so would pioneers.
and it didn't seem like you needed a new head unit, but blaupunkt has some nice cheap ones, with good features.
somebody dissed pioneers head units too, they are very good, and giving alpine a run for their money.
and whoever said that alpine and infinity are the best you can buy,................. punch them in the face, becasue they are dead wrong.
for your budget i would say that infinity's would be great and so would pioneers.
and it didn't seem like you needed a new head unit, but blaupunkt has some nice cheap ones, with good features.
somebody dissed pioneers head units too, they are very good, and giving alpine a run for their money.
and whoever said that alpine and infinity are the best you can buy,................. punch them in the face, becasue they are dead wrong.
loismustdie
01-31-2004, 09:02 PM
but i will have to side with haibane, get some cdt components.
best thing so far recomended
best thing so far recomended
Haibane
01-31-2004, 10:58 PM
I have to say I am not a big infinity fan. It seems everyone who owns them immediately becomes egotistical and says everything else is crap. Of course they haven't heard everything else.
bumpinstang77
01-31-2004, 11:04 PM
Well all the pioneers I've heard hasn't sounded very good at all especiall with the lack of enough mids it just doesn't sound full.
Haibane
02-01-2004, 08:25 AM
bumpinstang, no offense, but I couldn't understand what you meant by the last sentence. Can you use some commas and periods?
bumpinstang77
02-01-2004, 04:56 PM
The pioneers I've heard hasn't sounded very well. The mids aren't as loud as the highs and it doesn't have a full sound to it.
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