97 Gtp Starts Without Key

97 GTP starts without a key in the ignition. I can just turn the ignition like the key is in there and it starts. Can’t turn the ignition back to the stop position. I can push it in but can’t go to the last click. The shift indicator lights in the dash stay on all the time. I can move the shifter anywhere I want any time I want I think it might be the shift lock release because the button was stuck in the release position. But I some how popped it up and it looks to be in proper alignment. This forum has helped many times so I’m laying it in you’re lap once again.

97 GTP starts without a key in the ignition. I can just turn the ignition like the key is in there and it starts. Can’t turn the ignition back to the stop position. I can push it in but can’t go to the last click.

Based on the above it sounds like the ignition key cylinder/tumbler is worn out and most likely related to the shift interlock (BTSI) problem. Until the key gets in all the way the BCM module will not know the key is in and you will get no warning chime.

BNaylor thanks for all the effort you put into this forum. Do you have directions that detail how to change out a tumbler?

Thanks for the compliment. We have a procedure posted at Tips & Maintenance to replace the ignition switch and harness but it should cover the part of getting to the key cylinder. Just do the part applicable to the key cylinder. Good luck.

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BEFORE BEGINNING THIS REPAIR REMOVE THE NEGATIVE TERMINAL FROM THE BATTERY. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO THE REPAIR WITHOUT DOING THIS.

Look inside the slot where the tilt steering knob is located. There is a black metal piece where the knob inserts into the tilt mechanism. Pry it back slightly with a small screwdriver. One from an electronics tool set will work. While you have it pried, pull the knob out and it should release.

Remove the two screws from the bottom of the steering column cover and remove the cover.

Remove the two screws that hold the top steering column cover in place.

Insert the ignition key into the key cylinder and turn the key clockwise to the start position. Nothing will happen because you have disconnected the battery prior to starting this project. Lift the top steering column cover being careful not to break it because it is still held in place by the ignition key cylinder. You will see with your mirror near the back end of the cylinder housing a small hole. Stick a small allen wrench in the hole, this will release the key cylinder so that it can be pulled out. Once the key cylinder is removed the column top cover is free to be removed.

Tomorrow night sounds like a good day to start this project. Thanks Again