h22a vs b16a
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:40 AM
i was wondering whats the diff between the h22a and the b16a which would be better to get for a swap?
Jetts
02-18-2003, 10:42 AM
h22 is like 200 hp and is way bigger, b16 is like 170 and smaller
an h22 in a 4th gen would be crazy it would probally ride like shit cause that is a big motor for such a little car but i bet i can work i have seen a couple and i mean if the 30 more horses are important...
the price too the h22 cost more
an h22 in a 4th gen would be crazy it would probally ride like shit cause that is a big motor for such a little car but i bet i can work i have seen a couple and i mean if the 30 more horses are important...
the price too the h22 cost more
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:45 AM
damn well i think then a b16a with exaust intake and headers in the best way to go
civicHBsi91
02-18-2003, 10:45 AM
built b16b would be better i think unless your just using the car for stricktly drag racing, oops you said b16a....well a built b16a would still be better for daily driver etc....
Jetts
02-18-2003, 10:46 AM
its up to you your car and your money an h22 would be tight but if u want ac and power steering then go b16 and if u want room for a turbo or supercharger go b16 but if u want a n/a h22 go ahead and do it
Melt
02-18-2003, 10:47 AM
There is a guy on this board who has put a h22 in a 90 si, pm 'frostee' I am sure he will tell you all about it. :cool:
Hopefully he comes to the Central Valley Meet (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t83591.html)
Hopefully he comes to the Central Valley Meet (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t83591.html)
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:47 AM
mabye i'll go with this haha
97-99 Prelude Type-SH VTEC & 98+ Prelude SiR-S VTEC (JDM)
H22A:
- 220hp @ 7200rpm
97-99 Prelude Type-SH VTEC & 98+ Prelude SiR-S VTEC (JDM)
H22A:
- 220hp @ 7200rpm
VelocityCivic91
02-18-2003, 10:48 AM
B16 is better for a swap. H22 would be expesive, and like 96 said, your car would handel like ass. I got a B16a1 in my car and love it! I wouldnt get any other motor for the price. This is my motor in my car.
cyberrexer
02-18-2003, 10:48 AM
Power output on the H22 vary, the UK spec 4th gen lude for example has 183bhp. The same goes for B16#s 150BHP; 160PS; 170PS.
But remember the H22 weighs a lot more, affecting handling. If it’s for drag then it’s ok, you will get a lot more torque!!! The thing I love best about my Prelude 2.2 VTEC over the B16 siR.
But remember the H22 weighs a lot more, affecting handling. If it’s for drag then it’s ok, you will get a lot more torque!!! The thing I love best about my Prelude 2.2 VTEC over the B16 siR.
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:49 AM
well i say fuck power steering my stock dx has no power steering and no a/c lol
dunno about the summer tho gotta roll down all my windows haha
dunno about the summer tho gotta roll down all my windows haha
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:50 AM
yeah tomarrow im gonna go with my mom to a garage that she knows the owner and im gonna see if he can hook me up with a deal
gonna get a quote for a b16a complete swap and a h22a complete swap
then i gotta find some1 to buy my shitty old engine
gonna get a quote for a b16a complete swap and a h22a complete swap
then i gotta find some1 to buy my shitty old engine
Jetts
02-18-2003, 10:50 AM
they arnt that much more money, but handleing is going to suck that is all i heard bad about that swap
Jetts
02-18-2003, 10:52 AM
yea i wish i could throw out the ac but when it is 110 out i want ac
Melt
02-18-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by blueturtle
well i say fuck power steering my stock dx has no power steering and no a/c lol
dunno about the summer tho gotta roll down all my windows haha
Sucks for you .... my LX has Power steering, door locks, windows, cruise control, and thanks to my r134A my A/C blows 30 degree air :D
well i say fuck power steering my stock dx has no power steering and no a/c lol
dunno about the summer tho gotta roll down all my windows haha
Sucks for you .... my LX has Power steering, door locks, windows, cruise control, and thanks to my r134A my A/C blows 30 degree air :D
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:55 AM
thats cool
na not having power steering doesn;t really bother me at first i was like shit this wheels hard to turn when im not moving
but now ive got used to it got easy
and the best way to do it is to move a little bit then it turns a lot easyer
shit i can still drive with only using 1 hand w/o power steering
na not having power steering doesn;t really bother me at first i was like shit this wheels hard to turn when im not moving
but now ive got used to it got easy
and the best way to do it is to move a little bit then it turns a lot easyer
shit i can still drive with only using 1 hand w/o power steering
Jetts
02-18-2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Melt
Sucks for you .... my LX has Power steering, door locks, windows, cruise control, and thanks to my r134A my A/C blows 30 degree air :D
L = luxary (spelling)
Sucks for you .... my LX has Power steering, door locks, windows, cruise control, and thanks to my r134A my A/C blows 30 degree air :D
L = luxary (spelling)
civicHBsi91
02-18-2003, 10:56 AM
power steering sucks! i love no power steering you feel like you have soo much more control of the car IMO
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 10:59 AM
haha man my friend keeps telling me its a waist to spend all that cash on an engine swap tells me to just to rebuild my engine and get bigger pistons haha ide like to see him say that when i smoke his pos automatic acura
Jetts
02-18-2003, 11:00 AM
Honda H22a engine only $1450
at www.jspecjdm.net probally can find better deal just looked real fast
what is imo?
dont laugh im stupid
at www.jspecjdm.net probally can find better deal just looked real fast
what is imo?
dont laugh im stupid
VelocityCivic91
02-18-2003, 11:00 AM
I live in Florida, were it is hot as hell, and the humidity will kill the weak... :eek: and I have NO A/C. As long as the heat works, I am good. Cuz when winter rolls around, us Floridians cant really take the cold that well. My last car ( 91 Civic hatch STD ) had A/C, but I never used it, because it slowed my car down SOOOOO much, so I always drove around with the windows down. So, I am use to it, even on 90+ degree and humidity at 100% days. Oh and the powersteering thing... My old car never had it, my car now dosent have it, and I love the feel. You feel the car a lot better. It just sucks at dead stops when you gotta turn the wheel a lot. Remids me of driving a tractor trailer the steering is so hard. :flash:
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 11:01 AM
haha just get jacked and its easy to turn (not that im jacked :( )
civicHBsi91
02-18-2003, 11:02 AM
IMO = in my oppinion
and im pretty strong so it doesent bother me that much i usually just palm it
and im pretty strong so it doesent bother me that much i usually just palm it
Jetts
02-18-2003, 11:02 AM
B16A cable transmssion, white plug, complete change-over includes: complete long block, cable transmission, ECU and axles.
$1150 Plus freight shipping
at www.hmotorsports.com/jdmparts/jdm_lights.html
still you can probally find a better deal just looked real quick
$1150 Plus freight shipping
at www.hmotorsports.com/jdmparts/jdm_lights.html
still you can probally find a better deal just looked real quick
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 11:04 AM
nice thanks man
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 11:08 AM
ok when i get my engine i also wanna have it rebuilt before i put it in so if they say that the engine only has like 30k miles on it but it might really have like 100k+ on it
so what are all of the parts that i should replace to make the engine like new?
so what are all of the parts that i should replace to make the engine like new?
Jetts
02-18-2003, 11:09 AM
np i was looking at swaps for the 96 hatch i was going to get and i book marked some sites and they had the b16
Jetts
02-18-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by blueturtle
ok when i get my engine i also wanna have it rebuilt before i put it in so if they say that the engine only has like 30k miles on it but it might really have like 100k+ on it
so what are all of the parts that i should replace to make the engine like new?
no idea but, i will take a guess so someone plz correct me on this one
pistions, rods, seals, bearings....
that is all i can think of sorry
ok when i get my engine i also wanna have it rebuilt before i put it in so if they say that the engine only has like 30k miles on it but it might really have like 100k+ on it
so what are all of the parts that i should replace to make the engine like new?
no idea but, i will take a guess so someone plz correct me on this one
pistions, rods, seals, bearings....
that is all i can think of sorry
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 11:21 AM
i also think radiator/water something/and some other shit
frostee
02-18-2003, 11:27 AM
if you cant make up your mind whether you want a b16 or h22, why dont you just get a b18, it's in between the two and it's a badass motor too.... So have you made up your mind already? if you want an h22 it's gonna cost you an arm and a leg to modify it to fit and up your suspension totally to the 2nd gen integra suspension or go aftermarket. But I think it's worth it if you've got the money..... I dont have that much money, i just got lucky to stumble upon a good deal....
Jetts
02-18-2003, 11:27 AM
no idea i bet someone will tell you tho
blueturtle
02-18-2003, 11:30 AM
i think im gonna go b16a rebuilt with bigger pistons intake headers and a damn good exaust
owe my mom 600 for insurance so i'll have 2 g's left but then have 4 months untill i have to pay for insurance agian so oi can make a good 2000-2500 more at work so i can get the swap just in time for summer and then im gonna smoke everyone at my school muahahaha
owe my mom 600 for insurance so i'll have 2 g's left but then have 4 months untill i have to pay for insurance agian so oi can make a good 2000-2500 more at work so i can get the swap just in time for summer and then im gonna smoke everyone at my school muahahaha
frostee
02-18-2003, 11:33 AM
why not a b18, or go ls vtec??
Jetts
02-18-2003, 11:36 AM
or just go moded b16 easiest swap and has mad potential for the price for it
mellowboy
02-18-2003, 11:44 AM
Or do what i'm doin. Find yourself a gsr/type r short block and get yourself a first gen b16 head and slap it on the block. There u have a poor mans type r set up! Its a very good set up and you'll have that nice lil torque. I dont like my wimpy 111 lbs of trq!
Hybrid1990crx
02-18-2003, 01:23 PM
You don't really have to rebuild the motor, its not like its dead and all the motors are guaranteed to start up. Just replace the water pump, timing belt, spark plugs, and plug wires. Maybe some other things?
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