put a b16 in?

hey guys::

i got a 90 civic hatch and i want to swap a b16a1 into it
however first i got some questions,,,

whats the difference between cable and hydraulic transmission??

what exactly does lsd do,,

and why will it cost me almost 1500 more to get these two things???

thanks a million

btw my car is a 1.5L 4 speed manual

-martin

4spd lol


so is it less than a dx

like it tops out at 85 mph?

funny guy...
actually its 104 mph so thanks,, btw if you dont have any help dont reply to the post whore

ok well heres my 2 cents on what i hjave learned on the lsd tranny it helps umm hold that thought i'll find the post i used

Originally posted by lowboy
funny guy...
actually its 104 mph so thanks,, btw if you dont have any help dont reply to the post whore


WHORE :hehe: HERE'S INFO ON THE LSD PART OF YOUR QUESTION

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85622&highlight=TRANSMISSION

AS FAR AS THE CABLE VS HYDROLIC ...CON'T HELP YOU THERE

ok found it

Cause you get better grip on wheels they are bouth pulling hard each time no metter in what possition your car is!!!
So you can more easily put your HP on the road

Doesn't word LSD(limited slip differencial) mean anything to you

Originally posted by blueturtle
Doesn't word LSD(limited slip differencial) mean anything to you

NO NEED TO BE A SMART A$$:rolleyes:

lol

ok how about the cable aand hydraulic trannies,,

whats the different, i mean i am assuming that i want hydro since its more expensive,, but will it be a sacrifice if i get the cable??

i dunno about that from what i gather hydro trannys are better b/c the clutch is easyer to use or some shit but i dunno the guy explaining it to me didn;t know wtf he was talking about lol

one tranny is not better than the other, cause its hydrolic or cable. its just a matter of what year your car is. 88-91 use cable 92-up use hydro. thats it really.

ok... its really simple.... on a cable clutch, it is a cable that pulls the pressure plate on and off, while on a hydrolic, it is a hydrolic line that does it. hydro pedal setups are often times easier to depress, but i personally think there is better feel with a cable tranny.

Originally posted by DarkImportGrey
but i personally think there is better feel with a cable tranny.

I agree. I hate hydro!:)

Originally posted by blueturtle

Cause you get better grip on wheels they are bouth pulling hard each time no metter in what possition your car is!!!
So you can more easily put your HP on the road

Doesn't word LSD(limited slip differencial) mean anything to you


I'm thinking that the word limited slip differential doesn't really mean much to you either....

think of the old subaru commercials: LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIALS SEND TORQUE FROM THE WHEELS THAT SLIP TO THE WHEELS THAT GRIP!

LSD = No more one wheel burnouts.:D

really......fuck that when i get b16 im stayin with the stock tranny that comes with b16


burnouts r the best part of driving standard

Originally posted by blueturtle
really......fuck that when i get b16 im stayin with the stock tranny that comes with b16


burnouts r the best part of driving standard

You misunderstood me, what I was saying was that you won't be doing one wheel burnouts, instead, both wheels will be burning out.

You can if you want to go with either a B16A2, B16A3 get (correct me if I am wrong) a hyro to cable conversion from HAsport. So if you wanted like the JDM A2 or A3 which (correct me if I am wrong) are rated 10hp higher at the flywheel than the B16A. It could be done. And LSD does not mean the end of burnouts it just means you'll need more than a stock B16A to roast'm.

:cool:

Originally posted by AlwaysMovin
You can if you want to go with either a B16A2, B16A3 get (correct me if I am wrong) a hyro to cable conversion from HAsport. So if you wanted like the JDM A2 or A3 which (correct me if I am wrong) are rated 10hp higher at the flywheel than the B16A. It could be done. And LSD does not mean the end of burnouts it just means you'll need more than a stock B16A to roast'm.

:cool:

A3 is a del sol motor which is a usdm. ITs 160 hp. Sir2 engine is 170. You can get the sir2 engine and use the cable tranny with it. Just because it comes with hydro that doesn't mean cable fit. It goes both ways. THe only thing about sir2 is obd1 and 2 depending on the year. So if you were gonna go with that you gonna have to convert your obd wiring.

oh i got ya

Why would you pay more to get a newer B16A when its really not nessicary? The beauty of having older cars is we can buy older engines for cheaper and swap them in easier. Thats why I think the 1st gen B16 is the best choice. It comes with the cable tranny so you don't have to get one and put it on a newer B16, or convert your 4th gen to hydro. Also, it comes non-OBD so you don't have to do a bunch of wiring to run an OBD ECU, and then deal with all the problems it will likley give you. (not to mention less HP gains from mods)

Also, I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what an LSD does. With a stock open differential (on most Honda trannys) all the power gets transfered to wich ever wheel is spinning the easiest.. Hence 1 wheel peels. With a limited slip it transfers power to both wheels when one begins to slip, so you don't just sit there and rot tires without moving. You'll still be able to do huge burnouts (if thats the thing to do) with you B16 if you want, but you'll start moving a lot quicker and easier with an LSD. I would love an LSD, as my B16 will start to spin the tires from just mashing the throttle in first gear from a roll.. It would be nice to have the traction...

oh hell yeah!!!

thanks alot guys i think im going to get the b16 with the ol cable trans for my civic,,,,

now whats all this about an ecu???

obd1432 - -- what the hell is all that mess supposed to mean

haha
thanks

btw im still flossin that 90 civic hb with 1.5L 4 sp aAAHHHAAAA