I Want....

Im starting this because I want an 11 second maxima with a passion, at the illegals here in vegas the was a 10!! second civic it was amazing, The import scene around here is pretty good, I didnt go, but I herd two weeks ago there was close to 400 cars because there was some heavy competition going on. Anyone from Vegas? I want to see if there is or I want to start a Maxima/Nissan club around here.

For the Vegas race question, you should look here. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=550)

Basically you want to go where no one else has before, 11 seconds in a Maxima. If this is your true goal, I hope you have $$$ to spend, I'd say at least 10-15k to spend on the engine work alone. Don't think your going to have a daily driver after that either. Your going to need new internals, and that's all gonna have to be custom=$$$$. Best of luck, but your asking an awful lot... :D

Originally posted by mtrai760
Basically you want to go where no one else has before, 11 seconds in a Maxima. If this is your true goal, I hope you have $$$ to spend, I'd say at least 10-15k to spend on the engine work alone. Don't think your going to have a daily driver after that either. Your going to need new internals, and that's all gonna have to be custom=$$$$. Best of luck, but your asking an awful lot... :D

let's see what he'd need to accomplish the 11 second Max...

hmmm...

a supercharger or a turbo with very high boost, intercooler, built bottom and top end, pistons, rods, cams, LSD, bigger piping, racing tranny, gutted interior, carbon fiber body(and i mean the whole car), slicks, and oh, yeah..NOS....hmmm...did i miss anythings? :D

Originally posted by irvine78


let's see what he'd need to accomplish the 11 second Max...

hmmm...

a supercharger or a turbo with very high boost, intercooler, built bottom and top end, pistons, rods, cams, LSD, bigger piping, racing tranny, gutted interior, carbon fiber body(and i mean the whole car), slicks, and oh, yeah..NOS....hmmm...did i miss anythings? :D

He wouldn't need a Carbon fiber body. Don in Texas recently hit a 12.2, but he has Massive amounts of work done to his Max, he's auto with NOS. Phil96se is running built internals with an SC and hit low 12's, but no one has hit 11's yet. I'd say you'd need built bottom, ported and polished everything, though that won't gain you much on a max, custom pistons, rods, valves, springs, and cams, LSD, 3" full exhuast, gutted interior, racing clutch, lightend flywheel, slicks, and NOS, not to mention a custom turbo or supercharger setup with intercooler. $$$$ ;)

what do you mean knew piping?

Originally posted by Corion
what do you mean knew piping?

He said bigger piping, as in exhaust, probably a full 3" from Y-pipe back. You'll also probably have to do some work to the S/C or Turbo piping to get the most power out of that, especially with an intercooler... :D

You guys forgot to mention ECU... that's probably going to be the most important thing (fuel mapping and timing).

True, that's probably going to be the most important and difficult part, not to mention $$$ and dyno time...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
You guys forgot to mention ECU... that's probably going to be the most important thing (fuel mapping and timing).

DAMN IVE GOT SOME WORK AHEAD FOR ME!!
Ive got another question for you guys, one where could I buy an engine rebuid kit (pistons, gaskets etc..) and is there a kit which adds extra hp, and for a totally new crazy idea of reaching my 11sec fantasies how possible is it to say drop a v-8 into it to add some major hp and be able to compete with mustangs and such because yesterday I got so blown away by a trans am it made me sick.... any help?

if u want an 11 sec car, looks like you may have to ditch the max or have a lot of money. i mean alot.

Originally posted by Corion
DAMN IVE GOT SOME WORK AHEAD FOR ME!!
Ive got another question for you guys, one where could I buy an engine rebuid kit (pistons, gaskets etc..) and is there a kit which adds extra hp, and for a totally new crazy idea of reaching my 11sec fantasies how possible is it to say drop a v-8 into it to add some major hp and be able to compete with mustangs and such because yesterday I got so blown away by a trans am it made me sick.... any help?

No, there is no rebuild kit for the Max that will add power, ie stroker kit. A V-8 in a Max? Ha ha ha ha, lmfao. Good luck, better have tons of money to do that. Blown away by a Trans Am? Never happens to me, and I don't run 11 seconds. Ive kept up with new porsche's, stomped on Mustangs, and left dozens of Honduh's in the dust. You can do a lot to the Max to make it faster, it doesn't have to be an 11 second car. 13's are easily accomplished with the right mods. You have a 4 door family car, appreciate it for what it is, and what it isn't... :D

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Doing a little math, the maxima that did a 12.2 has about 326.53 HP at the wheels, and about 424.50 HP at the flywheel. This is assuming that you have around a 3000 lb vehicle. (Someone please tell me the weight of the 4th gen) IF you wanted to do 11 you would need about 445.48 HP at the wheels, and about 579.13 HP at the flywheel. Or if you could drop the weight of the vehicle to 2700 lbs then you would need about 400.93 HP at the wheels, and about 521.21 HP at the flywheel. This is all assuming that you could "hook-up well" with slicks and that the transmission could take it. As fas as the engine??? Either a complete build-up or turbo or supercharging. (either way new pistons to drop the compression ratio is needed.) If street legal then probably supercharging with the stillen kit highly modified with an intercooler and other stuff like nitrous. This vehicle would be scary as hell to drive and traction would be difficult except for a track. Wet weather.... forget it. As for how I got these numbers, there is a cool web calculator here is the link. Its at the bottom of the page. http://www.atkinsrotary.com/rx7drag.htm :eek:

Cool calculator!!!!!! I wish my Max could run low 9's!!:D :D

After thinking about it some more, I not sure that the stillen supercharger is the way to go. The maximum pumping capacity might not be large enough to support 550hp. Better a big turbo (with crappy driveability) The Nissan Skyline(straight six instead of V) has had people achieve this horsepower and more with turbos. However, the Straight six is a better engine for HP that V6 (I am not sure why just know that all big power is produced with straight sixes like the Skyline and Supra turbo) You would also need bigger injectors, a new fuel computer to tell the injectors what to do and probably better axles and a close look at wheel bearings. I hear the when you lower max's these things get pist off and fail. But hey build it and show us how. and when you do give everyone who told you you cant do it this......:flipa:

alrighty folks this is I cn see dreams of 11s in my future see, my grandpa lives in CA and he owns a couple junk-yards and he has a shop and lots of other goodies so my car is in for some mods probly not anything major for awhile seeing as I have to go to school but Im hopin to rule the streets, and about the trans am blowing(i mean blowing me away) think its because ive only been driving stick for a week? it seemed to be stock, but i cant be positive but yea I got murdered slaughtered like friday the 13thed....

Well the Max that ran a 12.2 was Don in Texas (on the .org) He has a 95 automagic on NOS. His car is no longer streetable, at least he doesn't drive it, he trailers it to the races. He has his VB mod, a high stall Torque Converter, set to what speed I don't know, on an LSD tranny, he's got his heads ported and polished, extrude honed intake and exhaust, though it didn't gain much, JWT ECU and NOS, I think he's running a 125 shot, but it may be more now, I think he's also running larger injectors, but I'm not sure, and he's on Slicks. He runs a 14.1 off the bottle. I'm sure it's also stripped down, since it's a track only car, so it probably weighs around 26-2700 lbs. Based on a similiar Maxima's Dyno run, I'd say he's about 350+ Hp or so, and about 400+ft/lbs tq. To make it into the 11's, I'd say you would have to have about 450 HP and about 500 ft/lbs tq. With an everyday driver, good luck. Traction, weight, and reliability are all gonna get ya. You could build the engine for it, but again, the cost are going to be a real killer. Needless to say, to handle anymore power will require a major buildup of the whole engine to handle the extra boost and heat. Wanna teaser? watch the video! :D
BPU++ supra (450HP) vs. NOS'ed Maxima (filmed from supra)http://www.sx7r.com/sx7rvids/BPU++Supra_vs_sx7rNOSMaxima.mpeg

crazyness ok so my whole point in doing this is I wanna be able to blow a cobras and mustangs as well as this 11 second civic at our (las vegas) illegals, is it 11 seconds I dunno but it blows the shit out of everyone.

Well it's gonna be a lot harder to make a 11 sec maxima than a 11 sec civic. 1, the civic is a hell of a lot lighter than the max, 2, all the aftermarket that is available for the civic means that prices are much lower, and, everyone makes a freakin turbo kit for the civic now. With the maxima, your gonna be breaking new ground, which means R&D and lots of $$$. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. You might want to contact, Jim Wolf Racing for ECU, NOS, and Turbo questions, Arias and JE would both be good for custom pistons, you'll probably have to get your stock cams reground, and you can probably get JE to do your head work also. Good luck again. :D

Ok guys ive been doing some math off the available mods on here and without nitious I get 387 hp
soo with nos maybe as much as 487 soo how fast would that be?

Originally posted by Corion
Ok guys ive been doing some math off the available mods on here and without nitious I get 387 hp
soo with nos maybe as much as 487 soo how fast would that be?

First of all, what mods do you include to get 387hp? Even though manufactures advertise you get such and such HP from a Mod, doesn't make it true, there are a lot of factors that go into it, such as driveline loss, condition of engine, etc... You can also only add so much NOS with boost, you really need to look at your other mods to find out. Some people have run NOS with the Steallin SC just fine, others have had detonation, so it's all going to depend. With off the shelf parts though, I'm saying your not getting over 300hp, IMHO. Just my $.02 :D

I got all the mods off of the maximadriver.coms list of all possible mods

Originally posted by Corion
I got all the mods off of the maximadriver.coms list of all possible mods

Okay, a Stock Maxima will baseline dyno at about 155-160 HP at the wheels. Add a Y-pipe, Full exhaust, and CAI, and your at about 180-185 HP at the wheels. Add a SC at stock boost of 6psi or so and your at about 235-245 HP at the wheels. Where did you get 387HP? I'm probably about 260+hp right now, with over 300ft/lbs tq, It would take a LOT of work to get to 387 for me, I just don't have the $$$. Don't take the #'s and just add them together. A Y-pipe may claim to add 20hp, good luck getting even 10hp out of it in the real world. :D

what are you talking about stock hp for a maxima is 190 at least thats what mine was at when the last owner dynoed it

Originally posted by Corion
what are you talking about stock hp for a maxima is 190 at least thats what mine was at when the last owner dynoed it

What? Okay, stock HP levels are set by the manufacture for a certain engine. This HP level is at the crank, not at the wheels, and is assuming everything else is PERFECT. This means tolerances at the high end of the specs, engine broken in perfectly, etc. Dyno'ed at 190? Not likely, unless he had hella mods on there, sorry. Ask him to see the Dyno Sheet... :(