Turbo Build....D16Y8

ok. screw the twin cam stuff...im goin SOHC gonna build my D16Y8 for some serious boost. i'm gonna build the motor and put it in...run it for a while. put a small shot of N2O on it just to get used to driving with more power. and while i am waiting for the turbo parts. then i'm gonna slap a turbo on it. want to put 275+hp to the WHEELS. for racing.....tuned down to 6 psi for street driving. i am looking for reccomendations on internals. rods pistons sleeves cam....gonna use the stock crank. ......

u no that u need to have bolt ons mods (exhaust, intake,header, cam gears, pulleys, fuel rails and pressure regs etc.) before u go turbo.

Yeah, your entire exhaust will have to be replaced, and you will need to replace the fuel pump, possibly rails, and injectors.

yea and plus u gotta have tons of $ to.

Don't forget new clutch and lots of patience. ;)

tru that. and suspension. boosting a car takes alot of $, work, and patience.

Well, it isn't too hard to get that level of performance out of your car and it isn't going to take too much of a build to do it. I would suggest getting new forged pistons and rings, and of course a block guard. That is basically all you need to fortify the engine to survive that power level although I would recommend going ahead and getting a set of rods as well just to be safe. You can use 9.0:1 compression pistons with this set-up or stick with the stock compression ratio...not much of a difference really. I don't know about the emmissions laws where you are from so I would suggest going with the Greddy turbo kit with the large front mount intercooler. You'll need a new clutch of course and I would also suggest getting at least a set of springs and adjustible shocks. Anyone who has built a semi-powerful front wheel drive car will also suggest buying some sort of limited slip differential. I do not recommend going with the Phantom Grip lsd...get either a Kaaz or Quaiffe. I think that should about cover it.

Originally posted by F23A4Racer750IL
u no that u need to have bolt ons mods (exhaust, intake,header, cam gears, pulleys, fuel rails and pressure regs etc.) before u go turbo.

I/H/E are not needed to go turbo and neither are any of those other mods you listed. The Greddy kit comes with a fuel system which will support his goal, but that is about the limit of the kit. Of course, getting an adjustable cam gear and pulleys will make it a little bit easier to get his goal, but still not needed.

yea headers and intake are not needed. but exhaust would definitly be needed.

Originally posted by F23A4Racer750IL
yea headers and intake are not needed. but exhaust would definitly be needed.

Any exhaust he got for a naturally aspirated set-up would have to be swapped out for a bigger diameter exhaust when he went turbo unless he got a system that was far too big for a naturally aspirated set-up.

The biggest diameter exhaust you can run on the Civic's equipped with the D16 is 2.5" because 3" is too big to fit throught the opening between the rear suspension and the body. 3" exhaust will clang and probably get bent. So, if you're running 2.5" from CAT all the way back, you'll be okay.

As far as building the motor: bull crap.
Heavy mods: bull crap.
Fuel rail: Nope.
Fuel Mods: Definitely to get more than 10psi safely.

I've been running the Greddy 15G setup since late 2001 and the only problem I've had is a clogged CAT. It isn't clogged any more.

For more info on D16 mods, you might want to take a look at the turbo D16 forum: http://turbod16.no-ip.com/

Hope that helps you out with your decision making.

Maybe you didn't read his power goal SleeperCivic. If he wants to stay reliable at over 300 crank hp, he will at least need pistons. Rods and a block guard are not neccessary, but a safety procaution that most people would suggest.

No no, most turbo kits come w/ inslallation of the new fuel rails injectors etc... The only thing you need to worry about is a high flow exhaust (and catylic). W/ pushing 300hp's you can use your stock clutch (and pistons), you just have to pick your times of hammering it to save it as long as possible!! I do have info on the BEST turbo kit out there if your interested!! Im getting a stage one kit made for my Cougar that will push out 250hp"s(at the wheels) w/ a air to air intercooler! AND this kit cost $1200 less than anyone else out there!! You Honda guys will get one even cheaper than that because this company already has a stage I kit made for your car!! I know a t3/t4 Greddy kit will cost you $3200, try to beat that price!!!!!! Give them a call if your interested, ask for Carson @ 937-533-1730, or his website at itsturbo.net. You wont be dissappionted!!Tell him Nathan Brown told you to call and you will get the best sevice available!!:smoker2:

Nice sales pitch...but I don't know about the turbo kit coming with the fuel mods. Maybe a couple come with 2 extra injectors, but that's about it...

They wouldnt upgrade the fuel system for the car, they would recommend a inline fuel pump but shouldnt need it, especially under 10psi! Other vehicles like my own and Focus' and Contour SVT's that have returnless fuel systems do come w/ new fuel system that comes w/ the kit. All i know is these guys make the same kits as anyone else and get more hp than others and still charges $1000 (ave) less than anyone else. If you want to call that advertisement go ahead, i was thinking it was passing on good info to buyers out there trying to save some cash!

Originally posted by SleeperCivic
Nice sales pitch...but I don't know about the turbo kit coming with the fuel mods. Maybe a couple come with 2 extra injectors, but that's about it...

I don't know of a turbo kit that doesn't include fuel mods to at least support the stock boost level of the kit. I know you won't get fuel system upgrades when you are upgrading a factory turbo car in most cases. The Greddy, Apexi, HKS, Rev Hard, Drag, and Fmax kits all include fuel modifications as well as a lot of kits that aren't as well known.

You are correct, they do chip(or some type of module) all turbo cars for fuel mapping etc..but not very often do they change the whole fuel sytem. Cant just slap a turbo on and expect the ecu to "learn" that its got a turbo on it!

Originally posted by CougarSVT
No no, most turbo kits come w/ inslallation of the new fuel rails injectors etc... The only thing you need to worry about is a high flow exhaust (and catylic).

Look at what he said, then check my response. I'm not talking about a piggy back computer. I'm not a noob and I'm not ignorant to turbo kits. Thanks....

No, the turbo kit i can get comes w/ a flashed chip, this would count as a fuel upgrade.

Im not a noob either, and i wasnt trying to disrespect! Just stating what the installers are telling me.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Im not a noob either, and i wasnt trying to disrespect! Just stating what the installers are telling me.

No prob. Most piggy-back fuel components (blue box, or the FMAX units) are good to start, but I wouldn't expect them to be able to put out 300whp. The blue box runs way too rich, thus I'm upgrading my fuel to RC 440's, high flow pump, and using the VAFC hack. In the future, I'll switch to a complete management solution, but not before I build the block to require something that in-depth, will probably go with a Motec or Haltch unit.

I'm also going with a SPEC stage 3 clutch (http://www.speclutches.com/) in the next month and plan on 16" wheels, a BIG ass brake upgrade and rear disc conversion.

Also, from experience the stock fuel rail can handle well up to 300+ HP.

Hope that helps.

Nice, nothing like making a 12 sec EX, ha i love it!!! Let me know how much your paying for that clutch, im sure ill save you cash there!!!! This guy will beat anyones price out there, and im not talking 5-10 dollars either!!

$309 for the Stage 3, holds up to 399TQ. Let me know if you can beat that, because I got the price off of their website. If he can beat it, I'm in. Part # is SH223.

Hes checking on it, seems to think he can do a deal. At the latest i would reply tomorrow by 10:00 AM. Brakes? More you buy the better the deal:sun: Later! Thanks, Nathan

Got it, $289.00+ shipping!!

I can get it for $309 without shipping, I only live an hour away.

Ill try to get it w/ out shipping added. Thanks!

well, a helpful thread turned into a bash and then a parts department.

ok. I've been talking with The Old One. (Energy Dynamics) and remember this car will be putting 300+ to the wheels...the more the merrier. and sometimes seeing 1000+ miles a week as a daily driver. Here is the plan so far...if it is over kill...so what better safe than sorry, i like others do stupid stuff to show off....im sure that will include turning up the boost to insane levels just to see if she'll blow

Engine
Golden Eagle Manufacturing sleeved block (godzilla sleeves)
Energy dynamics Rollerwave Pistons (10-10.41:1) i know thats high but they say it will hold with the design of the pistons. im gonna give it a shot. what the hell.
eagle rods
ARP fasteners
Cometic Head Gasket
stock crank
moroso pan
turbo cam
new valve train
probably have the head ported and polished
high flow intake manifold and throttle body

Fuel System
fuel pump
injectors
rail
regulator

Exhaust
was thinking 3" thermal R&D but wasn't aware of the problems...will have to look into that

management
have been looking at the Hondata s200
(havn't looked into the haltech or motec yet.

Clutch
not sure yet

tranny
definately a quaiffe

volk CE-28N wheels
BFG drag radials.....

sorry for the long post...again i know its over kill, and i know i am looking at big $$$ but i would like to reliably slaughter some mustangs and cameros...V-8 kis my @$$......

oh yeah.....there will be machining for rod clearance and to improve oiling of the crank as well as ported and reworked oil pump to aid in oiling.......dont want to have a 4 banger monster starved of oil...that would be bad.....

Originally posted by white97ex
well, a helpful thread turned into a bash and then a parts department.

Ha ha ha!

hey white 97ex what you just posted in that list is not overkill for your goal. to get 300hp out of your car you will need everything listed there to run it everyday and not ruin it. and i dont know about those 10:1 pistons. you will need to run at least 15psi and with 10:1 compression that would scare the crap out of me. you have a high expectation at 300 wheel hp but it is possible. but again it will have to include everything you just listed. these people telling you, you just need pistons and a fuel pump are totally wrong. you rods would break in a very short time not to mention youd run lean as hell