McLaren's colors

Here is a picture with all the different colors of Mclaren that I have :

Black
"Grey"
Titanium
Silver
Green
electric-blue
light-blue (I have only one pic :( )
(dark)blue
red
burgundy
orange (yquem)
yellow
white (I have only one pic :( )

Did you have other colors :D ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/allcolor.jpg

The LM's 'Historic Orange', and Gulf Colours may count for some of the GTR's.

Nice color collection you have there.

I suspect that the White color was actually created from something else using an image editor. I used to have that photo as well but I can't seem to find it.

The one color you're missing is Wyclef Jean's car. It's an F1 roadcar that was painted a very unique shade of Dk Blue. It can almost appear green or black depending on the lighting around it. I can post some pics if you'd like.

Also - I've never seen that photo of XP4 before. Do you have a higher res version of it that you could share or any others like it. I'd love to add it/them to my collection if you're willing. Here's the shot I'm talking about cut out of your photo.

Thanks in advance.

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ER

Originally posted by Peloton25
Nice color collection you have there.

The one color you're missing is Wyclef Jean's car. I can post some pics if you'd like.

Yes thx :D

Do you have a higher res version of it that you could share or any others like it.

Here are they : (I found theses pictures on the web but can't remember where - webshots or google search :( )

http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/f1_1.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/f1_2.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/f1_3.jpg

Originally posted by Peloton25


I suspect that the White color was actually created from something else using an image editor.



I don't think so : you can find here http://www.qv500.com/mclarenf1p2.htm a list of the chassis numbers and colors

and ...

chassis 053 - 1995, 35th car built, White

So, XP4 is owned by Wycleaf Jean? Does he also have a black one? I recently saw a VH1 show of celeb's cars and they briefly showed his car but it looked black in the show.

>>nevermind, I see Peloton's note about the lighting.

>>On a somewhat related note, here are 2 other picture of XP4 that we have all seen. If this is indeed Wycleaf Jean's car would this be his house and garage as well? That's one MTV Cribs that I would save!

Originally posted by drewwtms
So, XP4 is owned by Wycleaf Jean?


No ! I think you should read the post of Peloton one more time ;)

he said : " The one color you're missing is Wyclef Jean's car. It's an F1 roadcar that was painted a very unique shade of Dk Blue. It can almost appear green or black depending on the lighting around it. I can post some pics if you'd like."

The Wyclef Jean's car is this one :

http://urbanracer.com/features/fmf02_article.html

Ahh, thank you for that! I should have read more slowly.

Originally posted by jkbon
I don't think so : you can find here http://www.qv500.com/mclarenf1p2.htm a list of the chassis numbers and colors

and ...

chassis 053 - 1995, 35th car built, White

I realize that there was a real F1 road car delivered in White, I just don't believe that to be an actual photo of the car. What I meant was that someone took a photo of a different colored F1 and desaturated it to make the car appear white. A program like Photoshop could easily do the trick.

BTW: Thanks for correcting Drew for me - this can all get a bit confusing. I'll try to be more clear in the future.

Drew - Wyclef also has one of the few Pagani Zonda C12s that have been imported to the US.

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ER

Wyclef's car is actually Genesis Blue. Before he bought the car, I went to Germany to inspect the car for a client of mine. At that time, the car was in exceptional condition. My client, however, did not care for the color combination as the interior of the car was dark green with a bright yellow driving seat. My client was also not really interested in reworking the entire car to suit his needs right after buying it. He opted for a different car.

Wyclef has since altered his car. As you can see by the image that jkbon provided, the car is now Black with White leather and polished wheels. I am not convinced the car is actually black. Close inspection of the image shows a metallic blue base. It is very possible that the exterior of the car has not been painted.

Peloton,
The picture of the white car is a real picture. It is found on a book cover: The World of Cars by Roy Bacon. The smaller size of the image you see here makes it look somewhat altered.

Thanks for the info on that book - I have never seen it, but will try to add a copy to my library soon.

There are two F1's on the list prior to 1996 in the color of Wyclef's car. Actually, one is a late '94 F1 #022 in 'Genesis Dark Blue' and the other is a late '95 F1 #046 in 'Genesis Blue Metallic'. I assume that it's the '94 car, but can you tell us for certain which car it is?

That's neat that you got to see the car in Germany. If you ever need someone to carry your luggage on a trip like that, look me up. :D I believe this car was for sale through ASAM Cars website ( www.asamcars.com) prior to it coming to the US and that a company called East Coast Exotic Cars (www.ececars.com ) was the one who brokered the sale of the F1 to him.

I heard a horribly nasty rumor that at the Funkmaster Flex car show where those photos were taken, that Wyclef claimed he paid 1.8 Million for the F1. Hopefully that included all the transport and conversion fees to get the car into the US as well as the cost of changing the interior. That's still a lot of money to pay for the privilege of F1 ownership and I can't see him finding a full return on that investment any time soon if he decided to sell his car. I also doubt you'll find anyone who would like the interior style he chose, so I'm betting that the car would head back to the McLaren factory once again for a refit adding more to the purchase price. I will agree with you that his car hasn't been painted - there was another website with better pics than the one linked here and you could clearly see the Blue in the paint. Unfortunately I just checked to see if I could link them here and it appears that their photos from that event are gone.

I'm not sure if you noticed in the photos XO-Tech, but it appears that he has also had the wheels polished to add a bit more 'Bling' ;) but I guess that is better than having them chromed and certainly better than fitting a set of wheels like Kennedy's car wore at SEMA.

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ER

Peloton,

Wyclef's car was acquired by East Coast Exotics by crooked and backhanded tactics that are not without their legal consequences. The future of the car in this country is not known at this point.

By the time ECE got finished with Wyclef, I would bet the final price was quite close to $1.8Million. I know what the car was purchased for, what the conversion cost is, shipping, etc. The commission that ECE took from that sale was profound. Further add to the price the cost to redo the interior.

He will never get a return on his money. The car will likely not reach values of that level.

Yes, the wheels on Wyclef's car are polished. I do find the wheels very attractive on the car, but the interior choice does not impress me and will likely not prove to be very durable with time and wear.

That's a crappy story you tell. :(

It surprises me that someone who is so intelligent in his own field of music would allow themselves to be taken so badly in a transaction like this. I guess he really wanted the car - but does he use it, or is it simply the ultimate status symbol for him?? Also, to spend that much money and not even have a guarantee of the car's ability to be here permanently is also pretty whacked.

Anyway - sometimes I'm glad that I can't afford to have those kinds of problems. ;)

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I've included one of the few photos that clearly show the exterior color is unchanged.

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ER

I would choose no color, just put a shiny clear coat over the carbon fiber, to let the weaving show through.

Ringo,
I must agree, I believe a McLaren would be very impressive in its birthday suit so to speak. While in Switzerland two years ago, I was able to take a couple days and go through the Geneva Auto Salon (which is going on as we speak). At that show was a Pagani Zonda that had been painted only in clear. The quality of the carbon fiber work was most impressive. It looks a bit odd from any more than about 50 feet, but up close, the sheer quality of workmanship is quite inspiring.

Although a quick reference to the McLaren colors produced, I see only 3 that were "Carbon". I am not certain if any or all of these were painted clear or simple a dark grey color. I have not seen a McLaren with only clear. To add to this, many McLarens receive new paint at the hand of each new owner.

Great comment Ringo.

I belive that there are pictures of XP1 (Peloton?) in the Driving Ambition book of a carbon-only finish. This was when the car went out for its first track testing. Obviously, it's not the same today but the car does look raw and edgy and very purposeful.

Originally posted by drewwtms
I belive that there are pictures of XP1 (Peloton?) in the Driving Ambition book of a carbon-only finish. This was when the car went out for its first track testing. Obviously, it's not the same today but the car does look raw and edgy and very purposeful.

Actually, all the photos taken of XP1 would have shown the bare carbon fiber as that particular car never made it to the paint booth. I have some photos of XP1 on a race track sourced from Road&Track, but it's difficult to tell that it's bare carbon. I do have this other photo that was scanned from "Driving Ambition" that shows XP1 during it's build process in December 1992. Unfortunately, who ever scanned it didn't get the full image, but it still looks sweet. You can tell it's XP1 by the caption next to the photo in the book, but also by the fact that the car has no front indicators below the headlights.

As most of you know, XP1 was subsequently destroyed during hot weather testing in the Nambian desert when BMW test driver, Roman Scherer drifted off line at ~150mph, clipped a gutter and lost control of the car. It apparently did a few cartwheels or somersaults before landing on the desert floor. Surprisingly, Roman was able to scramble out through the windscreen and the car would have survived the accident had oil not leaked onto the exhaust manifold and ignited a tiny fire which ultimately became an inferno. Losing XP1 was a setback to the McLaren Cars development team, but not a catastrophic one. Ron Dennins had every fragment of the car gathered and placed in a box to be buried - marked with a suitable tombstone at the McLaren Museum.

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ER

Although XP1 was indeed exposed carbon, it wasn't finished with a clear coat to give it that illustrious shine. It was raw carbon (and epoxy resin)as has been pointed out. The image that Peloton just posted is again raw carbon, but the high quality manufacturing and mold use (with the right lighting) do make it look as though it were cleared. Other than the inherent epoxy resin that impregnates the carbon fibers, there is not clear on the car.

Should the day come, I believe I would be hard pressed to conclude either burgundy (as the Clinic Model was once painted) or the clear coated carbon. The clear is Very Exotic. Quite a statement.

Here is a new photo of the white McLaren. Maybe some of you have seen this shot before. Personally, I think that the white is very boring and detracts heavily from the styling of the car. It's just odd...

This picture was apparently scanned from the Taylor and Crawley ad in classic and sports car (aug. 2002). They regularly have McLaren F1's listed for sale on their website along with other very rare and exotic cars. In fact, there is a yellow one on their main page and they list a silver one and F1 GTR #24R as being available as well.

http://www.taylorandcrawley.com/

jkbon - is there any chance you could post the white photo that you have. I looked for the Newman Wallpaper website that is credited at the bottom, but it has since turned into a pornography link site with 1 million pop-up ads. :(

Thanks!

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ER

No problem, I will add this picture this week-end.

I will create some "contact sheets" with all the Mclaren pictures (~1000) I have, so we can make exchange ;)

Hey don't leave us out of it...please post a link to the contact sheets here as well. We would all love to see them!
Rgds,
Faisal.

Originally posted by XOTech
Although XP1 was indeed exposed carbon, it wasn't finished with a clear coat to give it that illustrious shine. It was raw carbon (and epoxy resin)as has been pointed out. The image that Peloton just posted is again raw carbon, but the high quality manufacturing and mold use (with the right lighting) do make it look as though it were cleared. Other than the inherent epoxy resin that impregnates the carbon fibers, there is not clear on the car.

Should the day come, I believe I would be hard pressed to conclude either burgundy (as the Clinic Model was once painted) or the clear coated carbon. The clear is Very Exotic. Quite a statement.



hehe, my pic.....