How i hate Revell

I HATE IT !! I HATE IT !! I HATTTEEE IT !!

My BMW 316I kit is the wost kit i've made, you wouldn't even call it a 1/24 scale BMW 316i. It had about 20 mistakes, the instruction sheet misses more parts that there are instructions. Pins are in the wrong place, holes are molded to the opposite and revese of the part.

When i was a kid I build my first revell, i think it was the testarosa. and it had mistakes too. Now i know why i hate revell

sorry but I FUCKING HATE THEM.


alright, that made me feel a little better. what a waste of my time this thing was. I'm glad the only kits i've bought now are Tamiya.

I hate Revell too.. but just took an Integra at my Hobbyshop last week.. this is the first revell kit that impress me.. but it still have lot of mistake and fit problem.. as always...

I have to agree, I have read so much and seen enough that I wouldn't think of buying Revell unless I knew somebody else made it(like the Hasegawa Focus WRC in a Revell box) As an American it really bothers me that our model companies cannot make a better product, I guess they they just don't care or take any pride in their work. None of them can seem to produce a kit that doesn't have fit problems.

Sounds like you're frustrated with their older kits. I personally like them for their price and full engine detail. The newer kits are getting better and at most require sanding of mold lines on the body, and trimming of excess plastic on the engine parts at most.

Yeah revells like that but I think there ITR kit is great.

Is Revell that bad... haven't build any kits made from Revell... is the detail on the car as Crappy as Fujimi or worst?

When I was younger I always found Revell to be crap but Monogram was really good! Kinda odd considering they are kinda the same company.

The new ITR is impressive though, the new Civic Si also looks well done.

you also gotta remenber its a re issue......

si the kit is not up to their current standards.

Originally posted by endlesskev86
Is Revell that bad... haven't build any kits made from Revell... is the detail on the car as Crappy as Fujimi or worst?


Revell is no where near the shitness that is Fujimi. I don't see why you all complain about Revell so much, just more sheep to Tamiya. Most of us Revell makers buy them because no other makers make the classics, not most of the shit that is on the streets today. Other reasons are full engine detail, excellent detail in most & the price. I'd rather 2 Revell kits for the price of 1 Tamiya. IMO, this is what its like in Australia for me:

Tamiya=:finger4:
Revell=:cool:
Fujimi=:hehehe: :finger: :apuke:

If you think Revell is bad ( I like Revell but to each, their own!) You should try an older AMT kit! You'll bow down at Revell's plastic boots!:p A lot of Revell's newer kits aren' so bad if you're interested in certain subject matter.:)

Grr Revell always sucks well these few of my reasons:

Ugly body molding & sometimes too thick
The molding looks stiff not like tamiya or fujimi even...well don't compare with hasegawas they're too thin in the plastic

The scale The scale The scale it's always 1:25 hate them it will look funny next to the tamiya&fujimi's!

Am I the only one who does'nt have anything agianst revell? Personnaly, I like them, they're easy and fun, Tamiya is if you really like that car and don't mind spending time on the detail, it's like that for me at least :D

PLease don't start with fujimi or hasegawa, I was VERY dissapointed with thier quaility :mad:

I don't hate Revell, I hate Fujimi though. $65AUSD for a damn Integra of all things, HELL NO! First Fujimi kit I made has been trashed and burnt, second is still there because its a nice real car but it is lacking so much detail its not funny. Third and last is a FC RX7, I only buy a Fujimi if I really really like the car and noone else makes it, but no one told me that Tamiya made a FC RX7 so now I'm pissed off.

i dont hate revell they brought out a teg with a motor (too bad its 1/25) even better an honda SI coupe. i love building revells for their simplicity and quickness it takes to build them yeah they have their perks but which company doesnt. if you dont like them dont buy them

my friend is building the same Beemer and hers is coming out fine so i dont know whats wrong with yours.



HEY LOWRYDA REVELLS HAS A 1/24 ESCALADE DUE OUT THIS YEAR:D

I was thinking about buying a Revell Monday. By the way all you guys are talking good thing I didnt:). I might still try one, you never know, I might like them.

Originally posted by Lowryda
...but no one told me that Tamiya made a FC RX7 so now I'm pissed off...

You should really do more research rather than blaming other people. I have a pictorial list of every single Tamiya kit in their 1/24th scale sports car range and it has proved invaluable.

Here (http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/list/24car_1.htm) is the link in case you're interested.

I kind alike revell,its the only kits i can get in my area with out spending a lot of money, and i really dont see that many mistakes, but their pontiac GTO has a lot and their Saleen mustang has a lot

i don't seem to have any probs with revell kits but then i dont always make the kit as per instructions and even when they are a bit of a prob
it becomes a challenge to fix or my fav to modify

has built many revell kits but never finds any big probs that a little sanding can't fix, i'm building a revell mustang gtx "7/eleven" right now and other than the boot lip being a bent, theres nothing else wrong with the kit n the kit is like 15yrs old

I think there newer kits are alot better then there older one's but still need alot work on them if you are judging it with a Tamiya kit

They do need alot for sanding, testing the fitting of parts etc to make a good kit.....but i beleive that with some good time spent on any model you can turn it into a masterpiece i
If you a willing to spend the time and put the effort into a Revell kit it will IMO turn out looking great

and if u say revell is a bad matching parts up dont try airfix they 20times worse

You've got to remember that is a reboxed Hasegawa kit, tooled in the same fashion as all their car kits. No Hasegawa car kit that I've built went together without a fuss.:rolleyes:

Like P-Man said, Revell's newest stuff is very good, and every modern Revell kit I've built has fit together quite well.

Don't forget that they cost 1/3 as much as Tamiya kits. Therefore their body molds aren't going to be as crisp, you'll spend a bit more time getting the mold lines taken care of and cleaning up the body in general. And don't confuse new Revell USA stuff w/Revell AG stuff, there's no comparison...the European Revell kits are simply not as well executed, especially the body molds...my Z8 and Modena Spider have horrible mold lines, sink marks to deal with. The Minis I built were better, but had other minor problems that you don't see in Revell USA kits.

My ITR fit together as well as any Tamiya kit, and engraving under the hood, on the chassis and interior in some cases exceeded that of Tamiya. It was only on the body mold (which was pretty good) and wheels/tires where I could see the "price difference" between Revell and Tamiya.

The old BMW kit was originally made in 1981. The old Revell models are quite decent if you have patience and a few good modeling skills to deal with the minor issues. The kind of stuff every good modeler should learn along the way. I see a distinct lack of patience amongst some people here that whine and bitch about Revell stuff as if it's all crap, which is totally untrue.

Get your modeling skills and techniques polished and even a bad kit can look fantastic. My Fujimi F355 comes to mind there...it sucked worse than any Revell kit made in the last 30 years. And that includes Revell of Germany, not just Revell USA who makes far, far better models than Revell of Germany. What I learned in the past 15 years made my crappy Fujimi F355 come out much nicer looking than my Tamiya Testarossa (a FAR better kit) I built about 15 years ago and was impressed as hell with how it came out...then.:cool:

Now, if Revell would only make certain cars 1/24th instead of 1/25th I'd be satisfied...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :cool:

>Veyron
It's not tooled by Hasegawa.

Originally posted by hirofkd
>Veyron
It's not tooled by Hasegawa.

Dragon?:confused:

AMT/Ertl was by far the worst kits I have ever built, cheap plastic "to thin" and the damn bodys/frame seemed to be twisted. Also the wheels/tires looked cheap as hell :(

I did a Revell Benz 190E 23-16 in 1990. it was totally a crap. The wheels cannot turn at all and the steering and wheel parts are wrong in the menu......

Revell is the worst.:flipa:

Maybe its the modeler not the model :p :p

I think the people that complain more about Revell are people who have been modeling for a long time and are more "picky" about how the car looks and since some companies may make a kit that is "easier" to put together, companies that require a little bit more time and patience are considered horrible when they are cheaper. I could see people complaining about building box stock but if your modifying it you should have the skills to easily fit the "problems" with the kit.

Im to lazy to look at who said something like, if you use your modelling skills you can make it better.

Attached is one of my tires. This is the awesome level revell gives us. Maybe the '97 BMW 316i came with 3 regular Michelin, and 1 no name, smaller, super slick used tire tube.

And, my bottom frame is twisted to.

Revell I love you ! Oh, i use to like in skokie,IL which was like 2 mins away from their factory. I would always pass by it. Now i know where to send my complains ;)

Originally posted by clatescivicr
Maybe its the modeler not the model :p :p

I think the people that complain more about Revell are people who have been modeling for a long time and are more "picky" about how the car looks and since some companies may make a kit that is "easier" to put together, companies that require a little bit more time and patience are considered horrible when they are cheaper. I could see people complaining about building box stock but if your modifying it you should have the skills to easily fit the "problems" with the kit.

Anyone can make a decent model if it's Tamiya. That's the policy of Tamiya, and tooling cost is spent to make sure the kit meets Tamiya's own standard of quality.
Although other manufacturers need some work, it's got more enjoyable factor, and there's a chance of distinguishing your model from others, because the modeler can decide the workload, ie box stock, lightly enhanced, heavily corrected, etc etc.
Any plastic model is workable, compared to one resin kit I bought. It was a total piece of ****.

Originally posted by clatescivicr
Maybe its the modeler not the model :p :p

I think the people that complain more about Revell are people who have been modeling for a long time and are more "picky" about how the car looks and since some companies may make a kit that is "easier" to put together, companies that require a little bit more time and patience are considered horrible when they are cheaper. I could see people complaining about building box stock but if your modifying it you should have the skills to easily fit the "problems" with the kit.

I'm of the opinion that you don't offer products with problems. I work as a product manager and my philosophy is you engineer the best product for your price point. To me, the traditional approach for most companies has been to cut corners to meet a price point. This always leads to an inferior product. Revel, Fujimi, and others come to mind. The alternate view point is you engineer quality into your price point, and use innovation and planning to control costs. This is the approach Tamiya takes(Toyota, Honda, VW, Swatch, etc..).

Revel truly is an inferior product. You can't really say Revel kits are cheaper than Tamiya. Tamiya products are imported and have additional distribution costs. If you took adjusted FMC(Final Manufacturing Costs) values and retail mark up, and excluded distribution costs. Tamiya kits would be only 10-15% more. On a "GANT" plot I would also say Tamiya spends considerably more than Revel to enginner their products, with a corresponding decrease in manufacturing costs.

Just my two cents. Revel I am positive has the capability to rival if not exceed Tamita for quality. They choose not to do so. And in a free market, if the market demands quality they will eventually adapt or risk going out of business. So vote with your check book. If they have a kit you like but wouldn't buy for lack of quality. Write and let them know. If they're good business people, they will listen.

I have built many Revell kits and I think they are not bad though they do require more sanding and filling. Maybe I need to get a Tamiya kit to see the difference but Tamiya is more expensive and doesn't have full engine detail. But I have seen some nicely built Revell and AMT kits on this site (i.e. Kunta's 'Vettes)

Reveller

Engine detail schmengine detail !:D :rolleyes:

OK it sums down to THIS !

Tamiya=QUALITY=$

Revell=:rolleyes: bare minimum of quality= CHEAP.

To each, their own! Buy what you like, build what you like! There is no need to be in such disagreement about one's choice of models! Personally, I can take just about any model and make it look decent but then again, who cares what I can do with a model so I'll shut up and mind my own business :)

It's pretty weird,I have two Revell models. My first, which is 99% done, and another one that is ready to be primed. The first one was one of those 2 in 1 where you can build a dragster or a stock. Never again will I buy one of those. The kit is horrible and lacking detail, even as a newbie modeler I can tell. The second kit is not a 2 in 1 and seems to be excellent quality (well, excellent compared to the 2 in 1). This being the reason or not, I am trying to stay with Tamiya models for the most part...

Originally posted by Mainomega
I HATE IT !! I HATE IT !! I HATTTEEE IT !!

My BMW 316I kit is the wost kit i've made, you wouldn't even call it a 1/24 scale BMW 316i. It had about 20 mistakes, the instruction sheet misses more parts that there are instructions. Pins are in the wrong place, holes are molded to the opposite and revese of the part.
When i was a kid I build my first revell, i think it was the testarosa. and it had mistakes too. Now i know why i hate revell
sorry but I FUCKING HATE THEM.
alright, that made me feel a little better. what a waste of my time this thing was. I'm glad the only kits i've bought now are Tamiya.
Is this a Revell AG kit? Or possibly a re-box? I've never even heard of such a kit from Revell!!
Anyway...Old arguement, same result... read this- Revell vs. Tamiya - Let's get it on!! (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t28290.html)
Here is one of those damn Revell kits!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/487535camaro3-4.jpg
It's not the clay, it's the ARTIST!!!:finger:

:D All you guys who claim that you're never gonna buy a revell kit agian, I bet by the end of the year, you guys are all gonna show off your revell civics ...

LOL... You guys... :rolleyes:

In an effort to be fair, let's list all the cars we that weer kitted by both Tamiya and Revell (and beware of reboxes! ;))

Of the top of my head:

Ferrari Testarossa
Ferrari Mythos
Ferrari F50
Ferrari 360 Spyder
Nissan [Datsun] 240Z
~94 Ford Mustang (& Mustang Cobra)
...
What else...?

VW bug I think.

Originally posted by integra818
:D All you guys who claim that you're never gonna buy a revell kit agian, I bet by the end of the year, you guys are all gonna show off your revell civics ...

LOL!!! You KNOW he's RIGHT!! LOL!!!

:biggrin2: :hehe: :biggrin2: :hehe: :biggrin2: :hehe: :spit: :spit:

Originally posted by Ghost_9418
VW bug I think. Oh, yeah. New and old, no doubt...

true, compared to tamiya, revell is an inferior product. however, i must agree with jdm on the issue that it's in part innovation. i believe marketing and distribution is a major part of it as well. everyone on this board knows how 'bad' a revell kit can be but that doesn't stop any one of us from buying their products. in this business, the bottom line counts. if they still get your money, why spend more on engineering and tooling? it'll just keep eating their profits. they'll never get the tamiya market share so why compete directly? in this respect, i believe they're doing a very good job in both running their business and keeping their existing fans happy with new subjects (the new civic coming out, escalade, etc.)

Originally posted by jay@af
Oh, yeah. New and old, no doubt...

Ferrari F40
Ferrari 360 Modena
Ferrari Enzo (:o)
BMW M3
Ferrari F310B
Ferrari F1-2000

Originally posted by ales


Ferrari F40
Ferrari 360 Modena
Ferrari Enzo (:o)
BMW M3
Ferrari F310B
Ferrari F1-2000

When has Tamiya made a BMW M3??

Originally posted by Mikke


When has Tamiya made a BMW M3??

I though it was called M3, but it's still the same car Revell makes.
click me (http://www.1999.co.jp/asp/GoodsDetails_e.asp?Bno=4035101&Typ1_c=102&Typ2_c=106&Typ3_c=438&SPage=1&SC=9&SN=Search+result+Search+for+%3A+TAMIYA+BMW&It_c=10013150&andor=0&scope=0&scope2=0&thumb=1&sortID=1&urikire=1&sort_sort=0&ItKey=TAMIYA BMW&app_url=KeyReference_right_e.asp)

Originally posted by ales


I though it was called M3, but it's still the same car Revell makes.
click me (http://www.1999.co.jp/asp/GoodsDetails_e.asp?Bno=4035101&Typ1_c=102&Typ2_c=106&Typ3_c=438&SPage=1&SC=9&SN=Search+result+Search+for+%3A+TAMIYA+BMW&It_c=10013150&andor=0&scope=0&scope2=0&thumb=1&sortID=1&urikire=1&sort_sort=0&ItKey=TAMIYA BMW&app_url=KeyReference_right_e.asp)

It's actually the same kit :D

Just like Tamiya's BMW 850i, this kit is a Revell kit re-boxed by Tamiya. I think I've read somewhere that Tamiya changed the wheels and did some corrections to the instructions, though. 850i was a Revell Premium kit, IIRC.

I'm still sticking to Revell, no matter what anyone says it comes down to money and time.

It's strange when i started building many many many and many moons ago all kits were great to build,(and if you think quality is bad now you dont know what you missed).And with a slight amount of work they came out great. now we have kits like Tamiya which i think are like building snap kits ( now settle down ) i mean you paint and glue together hardly any sanding or work to go in it. With revell kits well thats a different story a bit of sanding for sureand a bit more work. i love to detail kits but tamiya-fujimi-hasagawa weres the bloody motors okay some do but not many. And when you build a revell or Amt yo can go to town on them. i like all kits with around 200 Tamiya and 250 or more Amt and revell kits

It seems that a lot of people don't realize this :
If it says Revell AG on the box, that doesn't mean the kit has been engineered by Revell AG !

Since the 80's, Revell Germany has re-boxed kits by Revell-Monogram, Fujimi, Italeri (several trucks & sports cars), Protar (Alfa Giulietta Spider), Aoshima (Range Rover, MG B), Dragon (the BMW E36 series), Hasegawa (rally cars) and lately Esci.
So, don't blame the packager, blame the real manufacturer !

Anyway, I agree with the first poster, the 316i/318ti Compact Tuning ain't Tamiya quality, but with some test-fitting, sanding and extra detail painting, it can turn out nicely. :)

I like the Revell kits ( the only one I really have built in the last 5 years is the ITR) they have motors and detailed engine bays. The fitment may not be great but hey, that is what putty and scrap plastic are for. I think the Japanese models with engines are nice but the curbside models only look pretty good on the exterior (there interiors lack serious detail) for the money I really love the Revell kits. I don'e really build to many Revells though, most of my none honda models are of japanese decent.:flipa:

I dont really care what company makes the kit, if the car interests me then ill buy it regardless. Personally I dont mind if the kits has flaws in it as half the fun is fixing them. I prefer a challenge :)

Guys, i know i started this thread and the fact that my BMW kit was a horrible horrible of revell's quality. I bought two more kits from them after seeing my GF's completed prowler.

I bought the Viper GTS(R) i forget and the 35th Anni. Camaro SS. My local hobby shop sold them for 14.99 and 17.99 respectively. I bought them both at walmart for 10.29, so im gona return the hobby shop ones.

I've always thought Tamiya had the better detail. But looking at the SS, i think revell is winning this game. the body is detailed to the same detail tamiya employs. The fact the the engine is also there is a plus, and something i hadn't seen in any tamiya or revell kits before is the detail on the hood (the inner side). i'm kinda amazed by this kit. I just wished they made them 1/24 and not 1/25. Those few inches do make all my tamiya's bigger.

I heard the Viper had some flaws in it, but hopefully not to many.

Revell is local to me, so I hope i can say that i'm proud of their kits.

Originally posted by Mainomega
and something i hadn't seen in any tamiya or revell kits before is the detail on the hood (the inner side).

The revell bmw alpina b6 kit came with detail on the other side of the hood too, it was cool

Originally posted by XR6 Martin
I dont really care what company makes the kit, if the car interests me then ill buy it regardless. Personally I dont mind if the kits has flaws in it as half the fun is fixing them. I prefer a challenge :) w3rd:bandit: