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ChopinPorkChop
02-12-2003, 02:09 PM
Fuck, Shit, Ass they are just words, y u must complain. They dont mean anything, rite now i can call you a morkintambo but u wouldnt take offense to it bcuz its JUST A WORD. NOTHIN PHYSICAL AT ALL, im not saing that im going around calling people dicks and shit but if i get pissed and im like FUCK then dont freak out
I know everyone is probly going to freak at this but u must understand

jon@af
02-12-2003, 09:57 PM
I understand what you are saying, it's not so much the word as what is connotation is that gets people in an uproar. Im willing to bet that had the prior mentioned words been used in a different context upon their creation, they would be just as acceptable as the other words in english vocabulary. You are very right, they are nothing but words, it is what they represent that make them 'dirty'.

YogsVR4
02-13-2003, 04:05 PM
ChopinPorkChop, you are wrong - words do carry meaning. Thats what they are around for. Walk into harlem and scream "Nigger!" at the top of your lungs and then try to explain how it doesn't mean anything for the remaining five seconds of your life.

Graphik Styles
02-13-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by YogsVR4
ChopinPorkChop, you are wrong - words do carry meaning. Thats what they are around for. Walk into harlem and scream "Nigger!" at the top of your lungs and then try to explain how it doesn't mean anything for the remaining five seconds of your life.

tru............but then again it doesnt really depend on wat you say it really depends on what the person whos recievin it takes it...............for example if you call a small little skinny guy a "Nigger" and you yourself arent one................then im pretty sure that they wouldnt care too much.................but then again if you call a monster of a guy thats like 800 pounds and like 7 feet tall then im pretty sure that your fucked..........



my 2 cents

tonioseven
02-14-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by De$i Gank$ta


tru............but then again it doesnt really depend on wat you say it really depends on what the person whos recievin it takes it...............for example if you call a small little skinny guy a "Nigger" and you yourself arent one................then im pretty sure that they wouldnt care too much.................but then again if you call a monster of a guy thats like 800 pounds and like 7 feet tall then im pretty sure that your fucked..........



my 2 cents I'm a "small skinny guy" 6', 149lb. and I will kick your ass if you call me one! If I can't do it with my bare hands, I will resort to something else but I guarantee you will think twice about doing it again! To get back on topic, Yogs is correct! Words can mean the difference between life and death depending on the circumstance.:bandit:

Graphik Styles
02-14-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by tonioseven
I'm a "small skinny guy" 6', 149lb. and I will kick your ass if you call me one! If I can't do it with my bare hands, I will resort to something else but I guarantee you will think twice about doing it again! To get back on topic, Yogs is correct! Words can mean the difference between life and death depending on the circumstance.:bandit:

yeh but jut saying that im as big as a tree trunk and im like 400 pounds and im all muscle........you wouldnt even think of f***ing wit me.......unless your plain crazy :rolleyes:

hondacivic4drlx
02-14-2003, 08:23 PM
why is it that the word nigger is so taboo to say in front of an african american, but when i get called a cracker it doesnt really matter?:rolleyes: im sick of hearing the whole nigger thing here and there. if it was so derogatory to the african american culture 200 years ago, then why does the black community say it so often, and produce songs about it. i think any black person who says it is a hipacrit.


i am sorry that i can spell:(

jon@af
02-14-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by ChopinPorkChop
Fuck, Shit, Ass they are just words, y u must complain. They dont mean anything, rite now i can call you a morkintambo but u wouldnt take offense to it bcuz its JUST A WORD. NOTHIN PHYSICAL AT ALL, im not saing that im going around calling people dicks and shit but if i get pissed and im like FUCK then dont freak out
I know everyone is probly going to freak at this but u must understand

Im a bit lost at the moment, when exactly did the thread turn from swear words to racial slurs? yes, a racial slur can in fact mean possible harm to someone who may utter it, but thats not what the thread is about, its about SWEAR words, such as Fu*k, and Sh*t. These words have no more depth than the letters that form them, they are nothing but slang words to describe other words, as I said before, it is not the word that is offensive, it is the connotation of the word.

TURBO_EK4
02-15-2003, 12:04 AM
I think that the word "Nigger" is a deragotary statement towards blacks, (I think this cause im hispanic, but i do have black cousins and this is whatt they tell me) But the word Nigga is somehow different, dont ask me how, this is what my cousins tell me, they say that the word Nigga is like saying Homeboy, or Dude. I tell my cousins "Sup, my Nigga" But never "Nigger". They dont mind and most my friends dont either.

Discuss

Porsche
02-15-2003, 12:38 AM
I would have thought that 'nigga' would be the evolved form of 'Nigger'

The word itself originates most likely originates with the Latin word "niger" which translates to "black". Similar words for "black" exist in other languages (Spanish, for example, is "negro"). Also somewhat relates to the African country Nigeria, which is primarily black. Many variations exist, including "Nig", "Nigel", "Niggy", "Niggly", etc.

that's from http://rsdb.fuck.org/, and anyone who's sensitive about racial matters be cuatious before you click.

I really don't understand how the whole Nigga thing works, if someone could explain that.

tonioseven
02-15-2003, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by De$i Gank$ta


yeh but jut saying that im as big as a tree trunk and im like 400 pounds and im all muscle........you wouldnt even think of f***ing wit me.......unless your plain crazy :rolleyes: I am;)

tonioseven
02-15-2003, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Porsche
I would have thought that 'nigga' would be the evolved form of 'Nigger'

The word itself originates most likely originates with the Latin word "niger" which translates to "black". Similar words for "black" exist in other languages (Spanish, for example, is "negro"). Also somewhat relates to the African country Nigeria, which is primarily black. Many variations exist, including "Nig", "Nigel", "Niggy", "Niggly", etc.

that's from http://rsdb.fuck.org/, and anyone who's sensitive about racial matters be cuatious before you click.

I really don't understand how the whole Nigga thing works, if someone could explain that. Hi! It will always be used no matter how much it's hated by some. Today's youth embrace it as a term of generalization and endearment; A Tribe Called Quest even had a song explaining the use of it as a term of endearment. The use of it is kinda like when you mess with your sister or brother but how dare somebody else mess with your sister or brother! I personally have gotten sick of hearing it and I try to make it clear when in conversation with those who choose to use it. As far as the size thing, I would try to use my brain before I would try anything incredibly stupid but fear is not a factor; I have 2 children to raise in this f****d up world and I don't have time to be scared because if anything's gonna happen then it'll happen.:grey:
why is it that the word nigger is so taboo to say in front of an african american, but when i get called a cracker it doesnt really matter? im sick of hearing the whole nigger thing here and there. if it was so derogatory to the african american culture 200 years ago, then why does the black community say it so often, and produce songs about it. i think any black person who says it is a hipacrit. I totally agree! I don't like hearing any racial slur at all and I don't think the double standard thing is cool either.

Diesel2NR
02-15-2003, 11:10 AM
In my view, there is a lot of difference between a nigger and a black person. Tonio seems to be a decent black man...is he a nigger?? hell no. I just wonder how this thread got onto the subject.

Steel
02-15-2003, 05:54 PM
"nigger" and "nigga" is all just semantics, but in the U.S. you are free to fuck with semantics all you want and get away with it.

jon@af
02-15-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by 94 Mustang GT
In my view, there is a lot of difference between a nigger and a black person. Tonio seems to be a decent black man...is he a nigger?? hell no.

To call a black man a "nigger", in my opinion is demoralizing and socially wrong, if he wants to call himself this, that is his business, but for someone else to do it, I believe that it is not their place. Granted there are many black men who have friends who are also black who call each other "nigga" as a greeting of sorts or as a way to acknowledge that particular person, but they have a relationship with one another and are fine with it between them, not some joe blow off the street. I believe that for a white man to call a black man a "nigger" is not only ignorant, but very much merits the guy having his ass kicked, that is basically stating that the black man is inferior, which is not true, and has never been true. Anyways, Im getting into this a bit too much.

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars


Im a bit lost at the moment, when exactly did the thread turn from swear words to racial slurs? yes, a racial slur can in fact mean possible harm to someone who may utter it, but thats not what the thread is about, its about SWEAR words, such as Fu*k, and Sh*t. These words have no more depth than the letters that form them, they are nothing but slang words to describe other words, as I said before, it is not the word that is offensive, it is the connotation of the word.


Please Read the Above :rolleyes: Granted I responded to the new topic, but I still think that the original topic at hand was really never discussed.

taranaki
02-15-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by De$i Gank$ta


yeh but jut saying that im as big as a tree trunk and im like 400 pounds and im all muscle........you wouldnt even think of f***ing wit me.......unless your plain crazy :rolleyes:

Haven't seen you post a pic of yourself yet.

hondacivic4drlx
02-16-2003, 08:28 PM
nigga and nigger are the same thing, i think there both derogatory, and the black people at my school can call eachother niggers, but when some one from a different color or cred says it then they get offended. i dont call my friends crackers or spics.

Graphik Styles
02-16-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by taranaki


Haven't seen you post a pic of yourself yet.


no im not really that big.......im only 14...................i was just speaking hypothetically

ChopinPorkChop
02-16-2003, 08:54 PM
hmm yall have a good point i mean we all want racism to go away so how did this topic pop up cuz i really dont like hearing or reading "nigger" so n e ways bak to the real topic i just think its stupid no matter what it is, slang or whatev its stupid, and in the same sense i dont know why i use swear words when im angry, im basically arguing with myself PFFF

YogsVR4
02-17-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by ChopinPorkChop
hmm yall have a good point i mean we all want racism to go away so how did this topic pop up cuz i really dont like hearing or reading "nigger" so n e ways bak to the real topic i just think its stupid no matter what it is, slang or whatev its stupid, and in the same sense i dont know why i use swear words when im angry, im basically arguing with myself PFFF

I used the term first. It wasn't to turn it into a debate about a single term. But, I was stressing that words have meanings. Swearing isn't just using words that people shouldn't get uptight about. I mentioned nigger because its not even considered a swear word but you can see how it inflames people.

MaximusGTR
02-17-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by hondacivic4drlx
nigga and nigger are the same thing, i think there both derogatory, and the black people at my school can call eachother niggers, but when some one from a different color or cred says it then they get offended..

Why not? If its cool with there own race, then let it be. I bet other races would get pissed if a black person comes at them like-- What up Spic or What up Wetback or What up Cracker? Those people would get pissed too. I say it all day to my homeboys or people who I know is cool with it. I'm not gonna go up to the Pastor of my church and say What up Nigga. Because thats not someone I'm cool with like that. I'm black by the way and anybody of another race that comes to you with some racial Bullshit is looking for a beat-down. Anybody of any race would feel the same. Its cool for people to say certain things about there race to there race if that race is cool with it.

HogieGT-R
02-17-2003, 06:04 PM
well i know that along time ago the word "fuck" used to mean to plow fields for harvest.......

and with the "Nigga" and Nigger" thing....i can't even stand it when black people use the word no matter how it sounds and I'm black as well.... it's a word of ignorance and i can't stand ignorance...just one of those things...but i mean i get dirty looks sometimes for just saying balls or something......go figure:rolleyes:

MaximusGTR
02-18-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by HogieGT-R


and with the "Nigga" and Nigger" thing....i can't even stand it when black people use the word no matter how it sounds and I'm black as well.... it's a word of ignorance and i can't stand ignorance...just one of those things...but i mean i get dirty looks sometimes for just saying balls or something......go figure:rolleyes:

Hey dog, I can respect that. The thing is I use it with people I knew for like 8 years or more or my cousins because I know and they know that we don't mean shit by it. I'll never use the word with elders and a place of business thoughhttp://www.ok-speed.com/forums/images/smilies/nono.gif

Jimster
02-18-2003, 11:36 PM
To tell you the truth- people who swear come across as unsofiisticated and I generally give them less of my time- I just can't stand swearing and only resort to it if all other means of communication had failed

what?
02-26-2003, 10:35 AM
I agree. What do they mean anyway? :devil:

MaximusGTR
02-26-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by what?
I agree. What do they mean anyway? :devil:

What?:D

TexasF355F1
02-26-2003, 01:29 PM
Personally, I don't think those words should be said if your not black. However, if a black person knows the white guy saying it and he knows its a friend I don't think its a big deal. I have had black friends(by the way I'm caucasion)friends all my life and I have said the word nigga when I would talk to them and they knew I was saying it b/c I was cool with them. Others may think differently of this than I do, but this is my opinion.

TexasF355F1
02-26-2003, 01:55 PM
In my view, there is a lot of difference between a nigger and a black person. Tonio seems to be a decent black man...is he a nigger?? hell no. I just wonder how this thread got onto the subject.
I actually just went back and read the whole thread and thought I'd speak on this. 94MustangGT I totally agree, and I will give my reasoning for this from a few events out of my life. My example is my freshman year me and two of my friends were walking home from school and a car full of black people(guys and girls) drove by and pulled over and this guy jumped out of the car asking us if we would jump him. He said he needed us to jump him so he could get in a gang and we just kept walking not saying anything, then he went to my other friend who was the biggest guy out of us, and keeps telling him "come on hit me hit me, I ain't gonna do nothing". And then the guy starts telling the people in the car "should I hit him, should I", with his friends saying get in the car and leave them kids alone. And then for no reason he turned and punched my friend in the nose and blood went everywhere, we had to call an ambulance b/c it wouldn't stop bleeding. I think this guy is a blank .

MaximusGTR
02-26-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by TexasF355F1
Personally, I don't think those words should be said if your not black. However, if a black person knows the white guy saying it and he knows its a friend I don't think its a big deal. I have had black friends(by the way I'm caucasion)friends all my life and I have said the word nigga when I would talk to them and they knew I was saying it b/c I was cool with them. Others may think differently of this than I do, but this is my opinion.


Now that is true, I know it sounds ignorant but that shit is true. I had an Armenian friend that was cool as hell and he said it to me all the time, but we had that connection like that and I knew him since we were like 11 years old. Anybody I don't know would get Fu#@ed up though:mad:

MaximusGTR
02-26-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by TexasF355F1

And then the guy starts telling the people in the car "should I hit him, should I", with his friends saying get in the car and leave them kids alone. And then for no reason he turned and punched my friend in the nose and blood went everywhere, we had to call an ambulance b/c it wouldn't stop bleeding. I think this guy is a blank .

That's fucked up about your friend and all but that could have been anybody or any race in the car and that shit is unfortunate. What did your friend do back?

TexasF355F1
02-26-2003, 03:20 PM
Nothing. As soon as the guy hit him he turned around and jumped in the car and then we all ran to my friends house. I dont think it broke his nose(i dont remember since that was around 7yrs ago) but I think it busted a blood vessel and thats why it bleed so profusely. I totally understand and agree that it could have been any race.

MaximusGTR
02-27-2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by TexasF355F1
Nothing. As soon as the guy hit him he turned around and jumped in the car and then we all ran to my friends house. I dont think it broke his nose(i dont remember since that was around 7yrs ago) but I think it busted a blood vessel and thats why it bleed so profusely. I totally understand and agree that it could have been any race.

Man, thats really messed up, the thing is Ive seen that kind of stuff before living in L.A. Of course it seemed things like that happened all the time some years ago when I used to catch the bus in Jr high. Ive seen some crazy shit before though. This one time back in 98, when I was getting my second tatoo, These two black guys were walking and one threw up a gang sign at this car with like 4 black guys in it. The guys in the car stopped. 2 guys jumped out. The guy that threw up the sign ran. The 2 guys that jumped out grabbed the other guy who didn't do anything and put him in the trunk of the Cadillac and drove off. Now that is messed up. Who knows what happened to that guy. But I was just sharing that story, it didn;t have anything to do with race. Just sharing a real unfortunate situation

TexasF355F1
02-27-2003, 02:37 PM
:eek: That is freakin' crazy! They threw the guy in the trunk....its probably a safe bet what happen to him which is pretty sad. Gangs are so dumb, people hating each other with out even really knowing each other, thats pretty stupid. My junior year I knew this guy who didn't show up to school for a few weeks and then he came back. I asked him where he was and he was like I got jumped in the Crips and I've been recovering...my mouth kinda dropped and it made me nervous. I was just like well if you see me somewhere tell you boys not to mess with me. He was like you have nothing to worry about cuz I'm cool with you so dont sweat it. I was like wow. Anyways, just another story, that's kinda pointless.

Dorikin
02-27-2003, 03:51 PM
Damn I went to a predominantley black school last year. Up here, the black guys are mostly from the Carribean(i.e Jamica, Trinidad Barbados), and my dad is from Barbados and still has a bit of an accent. On parents night the leader of the "gang" heard my dad talking in his carribean slang with the mother of the leader ofthe "gang". Ever since then I was cool with them and it help me a ton. I could say the n-word around them (I never did) and it saved me from beatings and tons of shit.

Kinda pointless story, but it helped me out. One kid did get jumped but he was an Arab kid and this was like a day after 9/11 so me and my buddies beat the shit outta the guy jumpin the Arab kid. Funny how an Arab, Black Muslims and a Jew get along when polititcs are put aside.

tomlong
02-27-2003, 04:14 PM
I do not think it is ever right to refer to someone as a nigger, negro, spick, honky, cracker, round eye, or any of the other commonly used racial slurs even though I feel like it sometimes. I think blacks that call each other it are uneducated losers. Just like people of other colors who use these words. How many white people run around calling each other crackers?
To get back to the original topic. Cussing should be taken in context. If I was to say go fuck yourself to someone I am arguing with than that is not an acceptable way to respond. If I was to say fuck off to a friend who just played a joke on me this is for fun and he understands this.

hondacivic4drlx
02-27-2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by tomlong
I do not think it is ever right to refer to someone as a nigger, negro, spick, honky, cracker, round eye, or any of the other commonly used racial slurs even though I feel like it sometimes. I think blacks that call each other it are uneducated losers. Just like people of other colors who use these words. How many white people run around calling each other crackers?
To get back to the original topic. Cussing should be taken in context. If I was to say go fuck yourself to someone I am arguing with than that is not an acceptable way to respond. If I was to say fuck off to a friend who just played a joke on me this is for fun and he understands this.
well said, and i agree 110%:D

endlesskev86
02-27-2003, 09:21 PM
check the dictionary...some words have their meaning to it

orange nitro
03-04-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by HogieGT-R
well i know that along time ago the word "fuck" used to mean to plow fields for harvest.......

I wonder how it went from this meaning to the meaning that is used now.

Personally I think swearing is a way of releasing stress without hurting someone. Although if it is used too much it can make you look stupid. It is funnier if you say somthing smart or cunning.

tazdev
03-04-2003, 10:39 PM
yes they are just words but there is a right time to use them and a wrong time.

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