civic model

does anyone know anyone who makes a 1990 honda civic hatch plastic model. e'g Tamiya .. (not that Tamiya does) and sites that i could buy from or somting.

I have been looking too. No luck yet.

There are pictures of one floating around on the net but so far no one knows who makes it or where it comes from.

I have been looking for a scale 4th gen hatchback model FOREVER, and I cannot find one. CRX's are definitely out there though...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/9205014thGenCRXmodel.jpg


I used to have a pic or two of the 4th gen hatch model that was posted up here a long time ago, but I can't find it for the life of me... it IS out there though... Actually, I'm pretty damn sure that it was Ami that posted it, maybe back when we were on host-board...

Yea, ive been looking for one for a long time. I went on the Model Forum on AF and ask, and no one knows in there, they all say they don't make one :(

Originally posted by Theodditie
I went on the Model Forum on AF and ask, and no one knows in there, they all say they don't make one :( That's what I say, anyway. :o

Best bet is to kitbash the rear of the 3rd gen hatch w/ the front of the 2nd CRX. You'd still have plenty of work to do from scratch around the taillights...

HERES A PIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1299724thgenmodelcar.jpg

I have been looked the whole interenet for this model and I still can't find it. But hey I bet if we email Revell enough to stop making those gay ass VW Golf model cars and make a 88-91 Civic HB they probably would. Just an idea.

Originally posted by dx_tuner
But hey I bet if we email Revell enough to stop making those gay ass VW Golf model cars and make a 88-91 Civic HB they probably would. Just an idea. The reason Revell is making MKI Golfs in 2003 is because they still have a molds from 15-20 years ago, and they're already paid for. It's almost like free money to them, because raw plastic is cheap.

To make a new mold for a 4th gen Civic hatch would cost whatever company does it around $500,000. They'd have to be pretty sure they'd make quite a lot more than that on selling them...

I think they would make just as much money as the 84-87 hatch makes. Why make that hatch and the 5th gen hatch and skip the 4th gen? that makes no sense to me.:confused:

Originally posted by Theodditie
I think they would make just as much money as the 84-87 hatch makes. Why make that hatch and the 5th gen hatch and skip the 4th gen? that makes no sense to me.:confused: Well, Tamiya made the 3rd gen back in 1985 (?). Maybe it didn't sell too well, and that kept them from making any more Civics. This Mugen Racing Civic was that last one produced by them in 1/24 scale:
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/list/24car_img/24063m.jpg

Hasegawa are the ones that make the 5th gen Hatch and Sedan, and I have a hunch the only reason they made those is because of the racing versions in the JTCC. Since they made the tools for the race cars, it was an easy step to add a full interior and box it as a street car.

but still, c'mon i think they could make just as much money as the CRX makes. i think we should try writing a certain company and demand a 4th gen hatch

But the CRX molds are already paid for! :o

The decision to drop $500K on a tool for a new car in 1990 that they knew they could use for the next 20 years is totally different than spending $500K in 2003 to model a 13 year old car. And on top of that, it depends on the market the manufacturer is in...

Are 4th gen hatches so popular in Japan? If not, why would a Japanese company make one? If so, then why haven't they made one already? (clue in the last rhetorical question :uhoh: )

Are 4th gen hatches popular in the U.S.? [Let's say yes, if you look at this forum ;)] Popular enough that an American model company would think they could make back their $500K at $12.99 a kit? That means selling around 40,000 units, just to break even; nevermind turning a profit. There's how many peeps in this forum? Around 200-300? Are you all gonna buy more than 120 model kits of this car, each?

damn you, you just gotta ruin the fun don't ya. but damn that is a lot of money for a mold.

Originally posted by Theodditie
damn you, you just gotta ruin the fun don't ya. but damn that is a lot of money for a mold. If I made a kit of one out of resin from scratch, how many of you would pay me $120 for one? :thinkerg:

thats a tough question man, but at that price you wouldn't really make that much money with prices that high.

I'd be doing all the work myself, in my apartment.
I'd shape by hand the masters for all the parts I'd need.
I'd section them back out to make them a semi-simple kit.
I'd cast copies of all the parts in resin using RTV rubber molds.

For the master alone, I'd guess that's ~200 hours of work.

Then, I'd only be able to make ~150 copies of the kits before my RTV molds deteriorate to the point where I'd have to throw them away and make new ones, if I felt it was worth it to keep making the kit.

How much is that worth? :devil: (not meaning to be sarcastic, really. how much would one pay for said kit? and how many people would be willing to pay $X?)

thats too much damn work for one person though

I think if Revell made one they would sell a hell of alot more than 40,000 models. Think of all the people that live here in the United States plus over seas sales. On top of that most people will just buy because its a Honda. Trust me

good point dx_tuner

hell yeah do that shit make 150 of em sell for 50 a pop
thats 7500 bucks man
then make another 150 and thats 15g's thats hella hot

Originally posted by Theodditie
thats too much damn work for one person though That's why my price would be so high. Labor + materials.

And, on top of that, even if I worked 20 hours a week (I do have a real job) on it, which means I wouldn't get any work done on any of the model projects I want to do (like my Spoon S2000 race car or my facelifted NSX model), I wouldn't have even the master done for 2.5 - 3 months... :o

LOL, why am I even talking about this project? :silly:

I would buy one for 50 bucks

Originally posted by dx_tuner
I think if Revell made one they would sell a hell of a lot more than 40,000 models. Think of all the people that live here in the United States plus over seas sales. On top of that most people will just buy because its a Honda. Trust me Then you should write a letter to Revell. See if you can convince their bass-ackwards marketing staff. :rolleyes: Of course those bastards would make it in 1/25 scale! :o

From what I hear, Revell sells very little outside the U.S. I hear all the time that people in Japan, HK, NZ, etc. can't get American Revell kits. OTOH, they do sometimes share molds with Revell of Germany, so they may have an in to a Euro market.

I would pay 50 for a Resin mold of a 4th gen!! :)

Anyone have a email address for Revell? Im ready to bomb the hell out of them with emails requesting a 4th gen model.

Hell with a Wings West kit on it would be even better!!!!!!

personally i think wings west is shit i think blitz is HOT

Originally posted by CWBETB
I would pay 50 for a Resin mold of a 4th gen!! :)Important distinction: I'd sell resin models, not my molds. :devil: You make copies of my work, and I'll come break your kneecaps.

Not flaming, just making an important point. The work that would go into such a project would be extremely valuable to me, and I wouldn't have a whole lot of copyright protection. That makes me economically vulnerable. :o

Here's Revell's site:
http://www.revell-monogram.com/
Good luck with that! :p

Oh, and did I mention the timing on their end? If they announced they were making the kit today, you wouldn't see it a day before June 2005. :o They have production delays up the wazoo!

well that sucks =\

*testing to see if my pic worked*

Yeah Blitz is hot if you like the Fast and the Furious ;)

Sorry about that, model not your mold

ARRRTGGGG

ims ooo stupid how do i get a siggie pic to work

just the damn url shows up

Originally posted by blueturtle
ARRRTGGGG

ims ooo stupid how do i get a siggie pic to work

just the damn url shows up quote my post


http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/320303bodykit-honda-civic-8891-blitz-fb.jpg

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wtf does quote ur post mean?




EDIT = CWBETB

It means exactly what he said, he is posting the pic for you. When you reply quote it.

for a image to show up you have to type {img}http://www.imagestation.com/civicpic.jpg{\img}

Replace { } with [ ]

click here and you'll see the code i used to post your picture (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=776894)

Also, blueturtle... in order to check to see if your signature picture is working properly, you do not have to create a new post. Just find a post that you've already made, and your signature will be updated in that post as soon as you change it.

And Jay, how hard would that be to do man (creating a model out of resin)? That is totally something I would want to try to do myself if it's not too complicated...

Originally posted by ci5ic
And Jay, how hard would that be to do man (creating a model out of resin)? That is totally something I would want to try to do myself if it's not too complicated... Well... Making one would be much easier than casting many. I just posed it that way to see if it'd be worth it for me to do it, since I have no real interest in a 4g for myself.

Like I posted above, you could cut up existing kits for the 3g hatch and 2nd CRX and just scratchbuild/scavenge the rest of the parts. This is the easiest option, and gets you one model for the price of 3, with a "hardness" level of about 5 (assume just assembling a normal kit is a "1" (disregarding painting, etc)).

For a bit of insight into scratchbuilding, check out Hiroaki Fukuda's model car pages:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xr2h-fkd/scalemodels/

specifically:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xr2h-fkd/scalemodels/project/ferrari/333sp/333sp01.htm
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xr2h-fkd/scalemodels/project/jaguar/xjr15/xjr1501.htm

He posts on AF under the name hirofkd.

Originally posted by CWBETB
I would pay 50 for a Resin mold of a 4th gen!! :)

Anyone have a email address for Revell? Im ready to bomb the hell out of them with emails requesting a 4th gen model.

Hell with a Wings West kit on it would be even better!!!!!!

lets do it to it! if the handfull of 4th gen members on HB could bug SCC enough to get mentioned in the website section....i'm sure we can really stand up and be heard with 70+ people on the member's list alone ;)

they'll be asking if anyone got the liscense plate of the 4th gen civic that hit them :devil:

If someone gets their e-mail, post it on here wo we can all gang up on them :D

Originally posted by Theodditie
If someone gets their e-mail, post it on here wo we can all gang up on them :D I'm sure this is the wrong address, but that's their problem now... :devil:

[email protected]

Haha I pity the person who get the emails, Im sending mine now! Thanks for the info!

Jay, you are my hero :ylsuper

sorry mods, i didn't see this topic.

well, i italy i found a CRX model, i can find bounches of those...

whatta hell, none of the civic.

i asked a friend who lives in japan, but he doesn't care about it so.....help me guys!!!

i would pay 50€ to have one:alien2:

? kinda looks like a model.. but i think it might be a real car

:eek2:


*and i never leave just smiley replies*

nevermind... it's a real car..lol

Originally posted by dirtydx
? kinda looks like a model.. but i think it might be a real car

if thats a model then thats hella detailed!:eek:

yeah i agree.
its just the blurryness gives the effect of being zoomed in greatly..and the intercooler looks kind of unrealistic too.

mamma mia!:eek:

first off bump!

and then I found this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3120839450&category=223

just found this too. I think its kinda cool