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Hybrid1990crx
02-10-2003, 04:13 PM
im thinking about getting a 92-96 prelude vtec and I was also thinking about getting the jackson racing supercharger for it? Anyone know anyone or have this done to their car? What power gains did you see? Also, 1/4 times?

del
02-10-2003, 05:41 PM
sorry to bust your bubble, but there is no jrsc for the 4th gen due to fitment, or lack thereof. the firewall is in the way. jackson racing only makes the kit for the 5th gen. get a turbo.

Hybrid1990crx
02-11-2003, 04:17 PM
damn it. thanks.

88sedan_civic
02-22-2003, 03:08 PM
turbos the way to go if your looking to drag the car and street race it.
but if your looking to go road course with it than yes a supercharger.

Prelewd
03-02-2003, 10:24 PM
That sure bursts my bubble... It seems like there is so much room under the hood. Son of a bitch. Dreams are altered. I'll make it fit. What does the OBDII do when you hook up a supercharger? Does the kit come with a new CPU?

del
03-03-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Prelewd
That sure bursts my bubble... It seems like there is so much room under the hood. Son of a bitch. Dreams are altered. I'll make it fit. What does the OBDII do when you hook up a supercharger? Does the kit come with a new CPU?

your car has OBDI, you don't have to worry about OBDII which didn't come on preludes til 97. kit comes with JR ems. it'll all hook up with the stock ecu.

and if you got the money for it, you can make anything fit i suppose. haven't heard of anyone doing such a thing before though. if you do attempt it, let us know how it all goes. it'd sure be interesting to see it done. i know a lot of 4th gen owners who would love the JRSC for their car.

MidNiteMysT
03-04-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by del


your car has OBDI, you don't have to worry about OBDII which didn't come on preludes til 97. kit comes with JR ems. it'll all hook up with the stock ecu.

and if you got the money for it, you can make anything fit i suppose. haven't heard of anyone doing such a thing before though. if you do attempt it, let us know how it all goes. it'd sure be interesting to see it done. i know a lot of 4th gen owners who would love the JRSC for their car.

yep, i would have liked a JRSC, and the OBDII came on the preludes starting 1996, not 97... dont forget about us 4gens!

del
03-04-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by MidNiteMysT


yep, i would have liked a JRSC, and the OBDII came on the preludes starting 1996, not 97... dont forget about us 4gens!

thanks for the correction:bandit:

Prelewd
03-04-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by del


your car has OBDI, you don't have to worry about OBDII which didn't come on preludes til 97. kit comes with JR ems. it'll all hook up with the stock ecu.

Reasong I asked about the OBDII is for the 5th gen h22 engines. The type S I believe. I was wondering what effect the blower had on the computer.

del
03-04-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Prelewd


Reasong I asked about the OBDII is for the 5th gen h22 engines. The type S I believe. I was wondering what effect the blower had on the computer.

the H22 come in all 5th gen preludes, not just the type s. anyway, the jrsc is designed as a direct bolt-on and will run with pretty much everything stock including the ECU. now coz of OBDII, the check engine lights will get triggered. and everytime you reset it, it'll just light up again. you may also experience a decrease in gas mileage. which should be obvious. other than that, as long as it's tuned right, the kit shouldn't have any adverse effects.

Prelewd
03-04-2003, 02:23 PM
thanks for the info del. what was the type S though, the VTEC model? I knew all 5th gens came with the h22.

do you think, overall, that the supercharger is worth the time and money? especially to put in a 4th gen? or would that 3k be better ivested in something like an all motor application?

also, are the intake manifolds for the h22 and the h23 the same size? I wonder if that supercharger would hook up to an h23. There would probably be a difference in belt lengths though. I don't really want to spend 3000 to find out.

I wonder if jackson racing or vortech would just give me a blower to try it out. 4th gens are too overlooked.

del
03-04-2003, 06:06 PM
honestly, you're gonna end up spending more than $3000 to custom fabricate the jrsc into a 4th gen. i don't think it'd be worth it. you can spend that money on a turbo or put towards an all-motor setup and you'd be faster than if you'd put the jrsc on it. i'm content with the supercharger. i know my car can be faster with a turbo but it's fine for me and the way i use my car. i think you're better off just spending the money on a turbo setup.

the type s is a japan-only model. it has the H22A that you find on other preludes but with more aggressive cams and intake manifold giving it 220hp instead of 200. and some cosmetic differences.

if you want to spend the money, go for the customized jrsc setup and do a write up on it. everyone with a 4th gen would love to see it done. anything's possible for the right amount of money. i would think a vortech would be easier to do however. but like i said, your money would be better spent on a turbo or all-motor setup IMO.

MidNiteMysT
03-04-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by del
honestly, you're gonna end up spending more than $3000 to custom fabricate the jrsc into a 4th gen. i don't think it'd be worth it. you can spend that money on a turbo or put towards an all-motor setup and you'd be faster than if you'd put the jrsc on it. i'm content with the supercharger. i know my car can be faster with a turbo but it's fine for me and the way i use my car. i think you're better off just spending the money on a turbo setup.

the type s is a japan-only model. it has the H22A that you find on other preludes but with more aggressive cams and intake manifold giving it 220hp instead of 200. and some cosmetic differences.

if you want to spend the money, go for the customized jrsc setup and do a write up on it. everyone with a 4th gen would love to see it done. anything's possible for the right amount of money. i would think a vortech would be easier to do however. but like i said, your money would be better spent on a turbo or all-motor setup IMO.

ditto

del
03-10-2003, 01:10 PM
there's a guy on SHO that customized a jrsc into his 4th gen. here's what he needed for the install, quoted directly off SHO.

"...Well, the only parts that you need besides the supercharger are the power steering pump, the top power steering hose, and a brake master cyclinder. According to hondaautomotiveparts.com that 413, 108, and 180. So +$700... "

just find a guy to do the install for you, and you should be set. the guy hasn't been able to dyno or time his car yet. so figure about $3500ish for the supercharger, another $700 for the extra parts and AT LEAST $700 for a custom install, unless you want to attempt it yourself. i'm gueesin you're probably gonna spend upwards of $5000. that's just to get the supercharger in. it's recommended to put a good i/h/e setup, so that's another grand. worth it? i still don't think so. but there's a little more info for you.

the guy's username is DrSeus on superhonda .com. so if you want to get a hold of him. register there and PM him.

Prelewd
03-10-2003, 11:08 PM
Del, I always look forward to your posts. There's a damn good reason you are a mod.

Anyhow, I decided on saving up for an H22 right now. My engine is 178 thousand miles old and getting a little tired. Forced induction probably wouldn't help. Plus, I'd get the money back if I sold the car with an H22 in it. Sounds good to me.

Thanks for all the help del, I still think it's worth it to see a supercharger in a 4G, but then again, I want to swap my H23 into a 1G and convert it to RWD somehow... Just dreams I guess.

del
03-10-2003, 11:42 PM
thanks Prelewd.:cool: funny that you say that though. i've been asking to be replaced as moderator only coz i don't have a lot of time to do any "moderating" anymore.

anyway, a RWD prelude project would definately be something to see. maybe even perhaps give honda some ideas.:hehehe: now there's some dreaming.

MidNiteMysT
03-11-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by del
thanks Prelewd.:cool: funny that you say that though. i've been asking to be replaced as moderator only coz i don't have a lot of time to do any "moderating" anymore.

anyway, a RWD prelude project would definately be something to see. maybe even perhaps give honda some ideas.:hehehe: now there's some dreaming.

ide like to be mod... they never made me one tho..... i think i know alot about 4th gens... now that rwd project could even reach a magazine and catch some attention

del
03-11-2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by MidNiteMysT


ide like to be mod... they never made me one tho..... i think i know alot about 4th gens... now that rwd project could even reach a magazine and catch some attention

i can only recommend someone for moderator. it's all up to igor. and of course other moderators have to chime in their vote as well. so as long as you're good with other moderators and they see your knowledge and helpfullness, they'll have positive things to say in the moderator's forum. igor just "hired" a whole batch of second mods so i dont' know if there's a need for one. this forum isn't very busy and Veetec was just made a mod. i'll see what i can do though. i'm not making any promises however.

Prelewd
03-11-2003, 02:43 PM
Well, the way I see the 1g H23 RWD conversion working out is kind of like a cross between that junkyard wars show on TLC and monster garage. It probably wouldn't handle too well, more of a straightline car. Everything transferred to the rear for better weight distribution. Tons of custom fabrication. I think it'll be a street/strip car if I do make it. The ultimate sleeper IMO. Gives me the shivers just thinking about it. People would look at it like :eek: and then :confused: .

It'd be nice to make it a midengine car and do some wheelies.. Oops.. dreaming again.
:eek2:

MidNiteMysT
03-11-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Prelewd
Well, the way I see the 1g H23 RWD conversion working out is kind of like a cross between that junkyard wars show on TLC and monster garage. It probably wouldn't handle too well, more of a straightline car. Everything transferred to the rear for better weight distribution. Tons of custom fabrication. I think it'll be a street/strip car if I do make it. The ultimate sleeper IMO. Gives me the shivers just thinking about it. People would look at it like :eek: and then :confused: .

It'd be nice to make it a midengine car and do some wheelies.. Oops.. dreaming again.
:eek2:

might aswell buy a different car already....

Prelewd
03-11-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by MidNiteMysT


might aswell buy a different car already....

Like I said... dream.. Dreams come true at no expense.

It wont be that bad as far as money goes, I already have the engine, just need the driveshaft and rearend, and other miscellaneous parts.

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