How rough is No2 on your motor?
frostee
02-10-2003, 12:38 AM
hey there guys/gurls, i was thinking about getting a nitrous kit for my h22a, my bud's gonna sell me a complete kit for $300. I was wondering how much do you think the stock internals can take safely? I was thinking it should handle 90 shots ok, and is there anything i should do to the motor or any extra safety accessories i should get before running it so it doesnt kill the motor? I'm probably just gonna run it once a month if even that....
Neutrino
02-10-2003, 05:04 AM
90 shot on stock internals mmmm....bad ideea. I would say anything above 30 shot is starting to have serious potential of destroying the engine. Also for 300$ i bet that system dosn't come with a piggyback computer so uless you completty retune the ecu yourself you'll run way lean.
frostee
02-10-2003, 12:56 PM
-what exactly is a piggyback computer, how much do they run, and where do i get it?
-so if i'm gonna be running No2, would it make any difference with the pistons whether they are hi compression or low?
-I've got a buddy who runs 70shots on his b20vtec almost 10 runs every weekend for the last 6 months and his motor still runs smooth with stock internals.....
-so if i'm gonna be running No2, would it make any difference with the pistons whether they are hi compression or low?
-I've got a buddy who runs 70shots on his b20vtec almost 10 runs every weekend for the last 6 months and his motor still runs smooth with stock internals.....
Deakins
02-10-2003, 01:16 PM
NO2 a exhaust gas ;)
Self
02-10-2003, 02:34 PM
Your friend is lucky. A 90 shot on your car is pushing it. Gaurantee you will have big problems in little time. I say nothing more than a 75hp shot, but probably want to stay closer to 60 even.
Neutrino
02-10-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by frostee
-what exactly is a piggyback computer, how much do they run, and where do i get it?
-so if i'm gonna be running No2, would it make any difference with the pistons whether they are hi compression or low?
-I've got a buddy who runs 70shots on his b20vtec almost 10 runs every weekend for the last 6 months and his motor still runs smooth with stock internals.....
A piggyback computer will basically tell your stock ecu what to do. If you don't have one and have instead the classic cheap nitrous setup your stock ecu will be completetelly overwhelmed by the sudden gas in the manifold and will not be able be make up for it and your car will run way lean. With a piggyback the ecu will be tod what to do and will feed more gas so the fuel/air ratio will be good. The fuel/air ratio is a factor way too many people ignore and can prove very bad for your engine if is not good. Also the piggyback will monitor when is best to induce the nitrous not at random moments.
Venom makes a complete system wih a piggyback that goes around 500-700 $. I understand that NOS and the other companies also make piggybacks but are sold separatelly.
And yes as with any other types of forced induction the higher the compresion ratio the harder the shot will be on your engine.
And a 70 shot is too much IMO even the 60 recomended by self. I personaly would stick with a mximum of 30. Remember rebuilding your engine is very expensive.
Also DO NOT USE platinum plugs since platinum is a catalist for nitrous. I recomend iridium.
-what exactly is a piggyback computer, how much do they run, and where do i get it?
-so if i'm gonna be running No2, would it make any difference with the pistons whether they are hi compression or low?
-I've got a buddy who runs 70shots on his b20vtec almost 10 runs every weekend for the last 6 months and his motor still runs smooth with stock internals.....
A piggyback computer will basically tell your stock ecu what to do. If you don't have one and have instead the classic cheap nitrous setup your stock ecu will be completetelly overwhelmed by the sudden gas in the manifold and will not be able be make up for it and your car will run way lean. With a piggyback the ecu will be tod what to do and will feed more gas so the fuel/air ratio will be good. The fuel/air ratio is a factor way too many people ignore and can prove very bad for your engine if is not good. Also the piggyback will monitor when is best to induce the nitrous not at random moments.
Venom makes a complete system wih a piggyback that goes around 500-700 $. I understand that NOS and the other companies also make piggybacks but are sold separatelly.
And yes as with any other types of forced induction the higher the compresion ratio the harder the shot will be on your engine.
And a 70 shot is too much IMO even the 60 recomended by self. I personaly would stick with a mximum of 30. Remember rebuilding your engine is very expensive.
Also DO NOT USE platinum plugs since platinum is a catalist for nitrous. I recomend iridium.
gunnmen01
02-14-2003, 10:17 PM
Ive run the 55 HP shot on my D16 for a year, and a 75 HP shot the last 6 months...no problem yet...on stock internals. I'm building a motor now but still gonnna run just the 75 HP shot....
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whtteg
02-18-2003, 09:11 PM
I have been running a 75hp shot also for about a year now. My kit is a wet kit however. If you want it to be safe on your motor and you plan on using it alot then I suggest you finding a wet kit. The reason you ask? Well you can tune the sytem to what you need. ie: you want to run a 75hp shot, but you are affraid of detination. Well you can run one size larger fuel jet and run a little rich and make about 70hp. Running a little rich is much beter than running lean.
Also like Neutrino said don't use platinum plugs. And try to get some plugs that are a step colder. I am using the zex plugs and are happy with them, but I am thinking about tring the iridium ngk's.
Also like Neutrino said don't use platinum plugs. And try to get some plugs that are a step colder. I am using the zex plugs and are happy with them, but I am thinking about tring the iridium ngk's.
inferno
02-19-2003, 12:01 AM
The B-series can usually handle about a 60 shot, and the H-series is good for about 75 stock. A friend of mine had a 75 shot on his B18C1 for over a year before he decided to build a turbo motor. He had no internal modifications, but he did have i/h/e, aem fuel rail, aem fpr, adjustible cam gears, and msd ignition though while he was running the nitrous. I personally wouldn't suggest running a dry shot of nitrous except to spool a turbo on a carefully tuned application and in that case, I would use a small shot...no more than 55hp.
Neutrino
02-19-2003, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by inferno
The B-series can usually handle about a 60 shot, and the H-series is good for about 75 stock.
you sure? from what i hear the h22's have pretty weak rods.
The B-series can usually handle about a 60 shot, and the H-series is good for about 75 stock.
you sure? from what i hear the h22's have pretty weak rods.
inferno
02-19-2003, 03:52 PM
The stock H series rods are stronger than a B series rod.
Self
02-20-2003, 01:21 AM
Really? I also thought the H rods were not a very strong rod. I thought that was the problem behind all of the h22 turbo problems? I've heard of more than one turbo h22 blowing rods on factory boost settings, and a tad above...
frostee
02-20-2003, 03:14 AM
hmm... i guess we'll see what happens when i run 75-80 shots(wet) on my h22a......
Neutrino
02-20-2003, 03:41 AM
well good luck man. I still say that a 80 shot is too big but the final decission is yours. Hoppefully you can prove me wrong.
beastman
02-21-2003, 10:11 PM
I've heard a lot about up to a 75 shot is about the most you can do before you need internals. But I think about 35 is what you should should start out with and work your way up to 75.
civickiller
02-23-2003, 03:14 PM
why not just go with the good ol fashion 50shot, its in between 35 and 75, and all of my friends run 50 and there motors are still runnin. i think how much shot you run depends on how much you race. i mean if you race alot, then i say run lower, but if you race very little, then maybe you could go alittle higher
purespeed187
02-24-2003, 05:49 PM
TerryJoe
02-26-2003, 04:35 AM
fould the f series be capable of handling a 100 shoot with forged pistons,rods and getting resleeved?
TerryJoe
02-26-2003, 04:41 AM
would not fould
Self
02-26-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by TerryJoe
fould the f series be capable of handling a 100 shoot with forged pistons,rods and getting resleeved?
Yes, it should.
fould the f series be capable of handling a 100 shoot with forged pistons,rods and getting resleeved?
Yes, it should.
whtteg
02-26-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by TerryJoe
fould the f series be capable of handling a 100 shoot with forged pistons,rods and getting resleeved?
What compression ratio are you talking about? If not too high of a compression ratio than you should be able to run a bigger shot than that if your fuel system is upgraded ;)
fould the f series be capable of handling a 100 shoot with forged pistons,rods and getting resleeved?
What compression ratio are you talking about? If not too high of a compression ratio than you should be able to run a bigger shot than that if your fuel system is upgraded ;)
whtteg
02-26-2003, 04:02 PM
Don't forget the clutch also, N20 is hard on the clutch! Factory clutches won't last long with nitrous!
integra818
02-26-2003, 10:37 PM
Superstreet: " a general rule of thumb, you should use a nitrous level that is a little less than half your stock power"
IN this case, your engine, 220hp (correct me if I'm wrong) would be fine with 80 shot. My best advice to you is to get a/f ratio gauges, this toll will let you know when your engine is running bad, so you can let off the nitrous, thus saving your motor. I would'nt reccomend Bosch spark plugs, my bro melted his after the 2nd day of use and he ws only using 30 shot on a b18c1. Agian, my best advice, get teh gauges, this will be all the help in the world to you. Also, check the pressure of the bottle, just cuz you use a 50 shot jet, does'nt mean you're getting 50 shot, you could be getting les if the pressure of your bottle is not at the right temp, I'm not sure about the right temp, maybe someone here will mention it...
Read the january 2001 issue of superstreet, they have alot of usefull information about using nitrous. I hope your engine does'nt blow up, good luck to you.
Happy hunting ;)
IN this case, your engine, 220hp (correct me if I'm wrong) would be fine with 80 shot. My best advice to you is to get a/f ratio gauges, this toll will let you know when your engine is running bad, so you can let off the nitrous, thus saving your motor. I would'nt reccomend Bosch spark plugs, my bro melted his after the 2nd day of use and he ws only using 30 shot on a b18c1. Agian, my best advice, get teh gauges, this will be all the help in the world to you. Also, check the pressure of the bottle, just cuz you use a 50 shot jet, does'nt mean you're getting 50 shot, you could be getting les if the pressure of your bottle is not at the right temp, I'm not sure about the right temp, maybe someone here will mention it...
Read the january 2001 issue of superstreet, they have alot of usefull information about using nitrous. I hope your engine does'nt blow up, good luck to you.
Happy hunting ;)
frostee
02-26-2003, 10:56 PM
what about fogger kits?? they're alot safer running 80shots than 80 shots direct right?? any pros and cons about fogger kits??
whtteg
02-27-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by frostee
what about fogger kits?? they're alot safer running 80shots than 80 shots direct right?? any pros and cons about fogger kits??
The only thing that is bad about a direct port kit is that you cannot go under a 80hp shot. With the fogger you can go from 25hp to in your case 80hp. The direct port kit has better distribution of the nitrous and fuel. If you are not planning on building the internals fir nitrous then I would say you would be better off sticking with the fogger kit.
And bottle pressure should never get below 800psi with a wet kit or you risk a nitrous backfire! I like spraing at 900 - 1000 psi. A bottle heater is a must when you have a wet nitrous kit. And whatever you do , don't leave the bottle in your car on a hot day. My friend left his in his car and came out from work to find the safety valve on the botle had released all the nitrous into his car :eek: !
what about fogger kits?? they're alot safer running 80shots than 80 shots direct right?? any pros and cons about fogger kits??
The only thing that is bad about a direct port kit is that you cannot go under a 80hp shot. With the fogger you can go from 25hp to in your case 80hp. The direct port kit has better distribution of the nitrous and fuel. If you are not planning on building the internals fir nitrous then I would say you would be better off sticking with the fogger kit.
And bottle pressure should never get below 800psi with a wet kit or you risk a nitrous backfire! I like spraing at 900 - 1000 psi. A bottle heater is a must when you have a wet nitrous kit. And whatever you do , don't leave the bottle in your car on a hot day. My friend left his in his car and came out from work to find the safety valve on the botle had released all the nitrous into his car :eek: !
Neutrino
02-27-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by whtteg
My friend left his in his car and came out from work to find the safety valve on the botle had released all the nitrous into his car :eek: !
I bet he had a good laugh about it;)
My friend left his in his car and came out from work to find the safety valve on the botle had released all the nitrous into his car :eek: !
I bet he had a good laugh about it;)
305Cutlass
02-27-2003, 09:21 PM
Out here in redneck zone I've only know one person that used nitrous. He has an 86 Olds Cutlass and when he still had the 305 Chevy in it he was squirting 150 shots into it for a few months before he finally got his 383 stroker ready to swap in. The 305 had a flat cam lobe cause the people that owned it before rarely changed the oil, so I'm really surprised that motor never blew. I'm guessing bigger motors can take bigger shots though right? I know I wouldn't wanna spray anything too big in my daily driver.
98_4dr_civic
03-10-2003, 12:37 PM
general rule is never go over your stock hp unless the engine is built. h22 has 200 so I say 80 shot would be fine. by the picture I see you have pretty much a stock intake with a cone filter. I would get rid of it cause it might shatter with a 80 shot. If your nitrous goes into your intake you have a dry shot. DONT use dry with turbo, they dont go together. for turbo applications you have to get a wet shot.
the reason you need a piggy back is cause its not the N2O that makes the HP, its the extra fuel the nitrous helps burn that gives you those 80 extra ponies. so if theres no computer hooked up to your nitrous to tell the car to inject more fuel your going to be mad lean and fuck up your engine. I say the safest kit out there is the ZEX cause the computer manages your fuel through your stock injector and stock pressure regulator, it also shuts off if you go lean and you dont even have to press a button. it activates it self when you put the pedal to the metal.
have fun with your squeeze but be safe. peace with
the reason you need a piggy back is cause its not the N2O that makes the HP, its the extra fuel the nitrous helps burn that gives you those 80 extra ponies. so if theres no computer hooked up to your nitrous to tell the car to inject more fuel your going to be mad lean and fuck up your engine. I say the safest kit out there is the ZEX cause the computer manages your fuel through your stock injector and stock pressure regulator, it also shuts off if you go lean and you dont even have to press a button. it activates it self when you put the pedal to the metal.
have fun with your squeeze but be safe. peace with
ACURA_RSX_TYPE_S
03-10-2003, 09:33 PM
I have a friend that has a 632 in his 68 camaro, he runs a 250 shot of nos, but he races it at the stip regularly. I'm thinking about getting a Type S, but probably won't waste the money on NOS unless I can afford to do everything right (internals). I hope to have a turbo as my first major upgrade.
integra818
03-10-2003, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by ACURA_RSX_TYPE_S
I'm thinking about getting a Type S, but probably won't waste the money on NOS unless I can afford to do everything right (internals). I hope to have a turbo as my first major upgrade.
How bout instead of buying a type S (which my bro beats ALOT of times > near stock GSR) ,you can bu the new srt-4. If you put $1,000 into that car, in the fro of boost controller, tires, and nitrous, you can probably hit mid 12's. Whcih I THINK is faster than any RSX around, the fastet rsx I've seen is 12.9, it's built by greddy.
I'm thinking about getting a Type S, but probably won't waste the money on NOS unless I can afford to do everything right (internals). I hope to have a turbo as my first major upgrade.
How bout instead of buying a type S (which my bro beats ALOT of times > near stock GSR) ,you can bu the new srt-4. If you put $1,000 into that car, in the fro of boost controller, tires, and nitrous, you can probably hit mid 12's. Whcih I THINK is faster than any RSX around, the fastet rsx I've seen is 12.9, it's built by greddy.
98_4dr_civic
03-11-2003, 04:01 AM
I think it would take more than $1000 dollares to fix up a neon. the car is pretty fast stock but it comes factory set at 14lb which is alot on that little turbo which means turbo upgrade plus anything fuel related as well plus ECU tuneup plus B.C. tires and somemore stuff and not only that but you would also be driving a american car. not that I hate on american cars but I just wouldnt switch just cause it comes factory fast.
ACURA_RSX_TYPE_S
03-11-2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by integra818
How bout instead of buying a type S (which my bro beats ALOT of times > near stock GSR) ,you can bu the new srt-4. If you put $1,000 into that car, in the fro of boost controller, tires, and nitrous, you can probably hit mid 12's. Whcih I THINK is faster than any RSX around, the fastet rsx I've seen is 12.9, it's built by greddy.
Well, I could, but Neon's are basically american shitboxes (I have a friend that went through 3 in about 2 years) so if I were going to buy something factory ready, I would just go with a WRX or MAZDASPEED Protege. I'm not looking for performance right out of the factory. I want a car that I can upgrade on my own so that I can put exactly what I want in it. Just my opinion.:smoker2:
How bout instead of buying a type S (which my bro beats ALOT of times > near stock GSR) ,you can bu the new srt-4. If you put $1,000 into that car, in the fro of boost controller, tires, and nitrous, you can probably hit mid 12's. Whcih I THINK is faster than any RSX around, the fastet rsx I've seen is 12.9, it's built by greddy.
Well, I could, but Neon's are basically american shitboxes (I have a friend that went through 3 in about 2 years) so if I were going to buy something factory ready, I would just go with a WRX or MAZDASPEED Protege. I'm not looking for performance right out of the factory. I want a car that I can upgrade on my own so that I can put exactly what I want in it. Just my opinion.:smoker2:
305Cutlass
03-11-2003, 01:53 PM
It's not that its American, it's that its a frickin Neon. They've always been low quality unreliable cars and they're damn ugly too. I'd rather support hard working Americans and Canadians than send my money out to another country.
There are some decent made American cars out there, definately not the Neon though (or almost any Ford product).
There are some decent made American cars out there, definately not the Neon though (or almost any Ford product).
integra818
03-11-2003, 03:24 PM
We don't kNow for sure that it's unreliable. Just cuz it's a neon does'nt mean it sucks. I'm a diehard import fan but I still have respect for that car. I hate the old neons (my opinion, I'm sure someone here hates integras, don't start a flame war), but it does'nt affect my opinion about this new one. Come on guys, give it a chance, this might be one of the best cars around. It's gonna give the honda guys a shitload of competition, I know that for sure! BRING IT ON!!! :D
ACURA_RSX_TYPE_S
03-11-2003, 09:48 PM
I'll give the neon on credit for having the right to make people listen up a little bit, just because of the upgrades that it has already, but given it's past performances, I'm not going to count on it being to great of a car. I think that they just gave it a chance for something else to go wrong with it. I'm not saying that it is going to be aterrible car, I'm just going to give it osme time to prove itself before I actually think about getting one. Rsx has had a bit of a chance to prove itslef and I have heard nothing but good things about them. Thanks for offering your opinion though. Besides after I drop about 20k into the type-s (which I'm willing to do), I'm sure that it will be able to beat your bro's gsr and that there won't be too many other cars around that I won't be able to beat.
integra818
03-11-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by ACURA_RSX_TYPE_S
I'll give the neon on credit for having the right to make people listen up a little bit, just because of the upgrades that it has already, but given it's past performances, I'm not going to count on it being to great of a car. I think that they just gave it a chance for something else to go wrong with it. I'm not saying that it is going to be aterrible car, I'm just going to give it osme time to prove itself before I actually think about getting one. Rsx has had a bit of a chance to prove itslef and I have heard nothing but good things about them. Thanks for offering your opinion though. Besides after I drop about 20k into the type-s (which I'm willing to do), I'm sure that it will be able to beat your bro's gsr and that there won't be too many other cars around that I won't be able to beat.
Wait.. 20 grand in a car that alrady 20K? that's 40k if my math is'nt wrong. 40k and you're gonna have a low 12 second rsx, probably not even street legal, if you put 20 grand in the new lancer, you'll probably do low 11, full street trim, that means full exaust, street tires (no shaved road racing tires), and no nitrous. Your best route would be to get the lancer, cuz, well, it's just teh fact that they're cabale of doin 9 STREET-LEGAL while you'll do 9 with slicks and possibly nitrous.
Oh yeah, don't be so sure that you'l beat my bro's GSR with20k in your car. ;)
This it the type of shit I hate hearing on forums, I'm gonna get this , I'm gonna get that, well I can claim I'm gonna get a skyline and make it run 10's but I hav'nt done it yet so it doesnt matter...
IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE, NOT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET!
This is'nt a flame in any way, so please don't get mad at me.
I'll give the neon on credit for having the right to make people listen up a little bit, just because of the upgrades that it has already, but given it's past performances, I'm not going to count on it being to great of a car. I think that they just gave it a chance for something else to go wrong with it. I'm not saying that it is going to be aterrible car, I'm just going to give it osme time to prove itself before I actually think about getting one. Rsx has had a bit of a chance to prove itslef and I have heard nothing but good things about them. Thanks for offering your opinion though. Besides after I drop about 20k into the type-s (which I'm willing to do), I'm sure that it will be able to beat your bro's gsr and that there won't be too many other cars around that I won't be able to beat.
Wait.. 20 grand in a car that alrady 20K? that's 40k if my math is'nt wrong. 40k and you're gonna have a low 12 second rsx, probably not even street legal, if you put 20 grand in the new lancer, you'll probably do low 11, full street trim, that means full exaust, street tires (no shaved road racing tires), and no nitrous. Your best route would be to get the lancer, cuz, well, it's just teh fact that they're cabale of doin 9 STREET-LEGAL while you'll do 9 with slicks and possibly nitrous.
Oh yeah, don't be so sure that you'l beat my bro's GSR with20k in your car. ;)
This it the type of shit I hate hearing on forums, I'm gonna get this , I'm gonna get that, well I can claim I'm gonna get a skyline and make it run 10's but I hav'nt done it yet so it doesnt matter...
IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE, NOT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET!
This is'nt a flame in any way, so please don't get mad at me.
nate1313
05-15-2003, 08:50 AM
i been using a 50 75 and 100 shot in my 1990 gs integra for over 2 years still spanking almost everything in my path ..u can run that shot easily in that car ....im running dry shots...just dont abuse it :finger:
nate1313
05-15-2003, 08:54 AM
im running 50 75 and 100 dry shots in my 1990 integra with 160000 on it no prblems for 2 years so far just dont abuse it it wont abuse u :flipa: you can handle that easy
CRXtc
05-15-2003, 02:09 PM
ok so lemme ask this, if i were to use nitrous on an LS with B16A pistons which would put my compression at about 10.8:1 and used a venom vcn-2000 kit and wanted about 80 to 100 extra hp....is this possible? right now i am just toying with the idea of nitrous for me rex with swap because i am not sure about what i want to do so i want to learn about it b4 i even think about trying it
Neutrino
05-15-2003, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc
ok so lemme ask this, if i were to use nitrous on an LS with B16A pistons which would put my compression at about 10.8:1 and used a venom vcn-2000 kit and wanted about 80 to 100 extra hp....is this possible? right now i am just toying with the idea of nitrous for me rex with swap because i am not sure about what i want to do so i want to learn about it b4 i even think about trying it
well as far as dry nitrous that is the best system. but 80-100 shot its pretty high on stock internals.
a lot of people will call me conservative but on stock internals i never recomend more that 30-40 shot- rememer its your engine at stake.
ok so lemme ask this, if i were to use nitrous on an LS with B16A pistons which would put my compression at about 10.8:1 and used a venom vcn-2000 kit and wanted about 80 to 100 extra hp....is this possible? right now i am just toying with the idea of nitrous for me rex with swap because i am not sure about what i want to do so i want to learn about it b4 i even think about trying it
well as far as dry nitrous that is the best system. but 80-100 shot its pretty high on stock internals.
a lot of people will call me conservative but on stock internals i never recomend more that 30-40 shot- rememer its your engine at stake.
CRXtc
05-15-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Neutrino
well as far as dry nitrous that is the best system. but 80-100 shot its pretty high on stock internals.
a lot of people will call me conservative but on stock internals i never recomend more that 30-40 shot- rememer its your engine at stake.
i know i read your posts, ok so how about with B16a pistons and eagle rods?
well as far as dry nitrous that is the best system. but 80-100 shot its pretty high on stock internals.
a lot of people will call me conservative but on stock internals i never recomend more that 30-40 shot- rememer its your engine at stake.
i know i read your posts, ok so how about with B16a pistons and eagle rods?
Neutrino
05-15-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc
i know i read your posts, ok so how about with B16a pistons and eagle rods?
yeah with reinforced rods its a different story. but while you are at it get the crank balanced.
that should make a huge difference. i'm not sure how tuff the block is though. as some of the honda guys
i know i read your posts, ok so how about with B16a pistons and eagle rods?
yeah with reinforced rods its a different story. but while you are at it get the crank balanced.
that should make a huge difference. i'm not sure how tuff the block is though. as some of the honda guys
CRXtc
05-15-2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Neutrino
yeah with reinforced rods its a different story. but while you are at it get the crank balanced.
that should make a huge difference. i'm not sure how tuff the block is though. as some of the honda guys
of course, actually if i end up keeping the LS engine and adding nitrous it would be rebuilt and fully balanced and blueprinted, and is my assumption correct that nitrous like high compression (to a point) but not long duration cams?
yeah with reinforced rods its a different story. but while you are at it get the crank balanced.
that should make a huge difference. i'm not sure how tuff the block is though. as some of the honda guys
of course, actually if i end up keeping the LS engine and adding nitrous it would be rebuilt and fully balanced and blueprinted, and is my assumption correct that nitrous like high compression (to a point) but not long duration cams?
Neutrino
05-15-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc
of course, actually if i end up keeping the LS engine and adding nitrous it would be rebuilt and fully balanced and blueprinted, and is my assumption correct that nitrous like high compression (to a point) but not long duration cams?
well if you seriously rebuild then yeah you can put some serious shots.
and yes youn are right too much overlap on the valves and you'll lose precious pressure.
btw why don't you go turbo with all that rebuild? refilling that nitrous bottle can get pretty expensive.
of course, actually if i end up keeping the LS engine and adding nitrous it would be rebuilt and fully balanced and blueprinted, and is my assumption correct that nitrous like high compression (to a point) but not long duration cams?
well if you seriously rebuild then yeah you can put some serious shots.
and yes youn are right too much overlap on the valves and you'll lose precious pressure.
btw why don't you go turbo with all that rebuild? refilling that nitrous bottle can get pretty expensive.
integra818
05-15-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc
ok so lemme ask this, if i were to use nitrous on an LS with B16A pistons which would put my compression at about 10.8:1 and used a venom vcn-2000 kit and wanted about 80 to 100 extra hp....is this possible? right now i am just toying with the idea of nitrous for me rex with swap because i am not sure about what i want to do so i want to learn about it b4 i even think about trying it
I'm not sure, but I don't think B16 pistons even fit in an LS. Find out the diameter of an LS piston and the daimater of the B16 piston and you'll know for sure, I'm not sure.
ok so lemme ask this, if i were to use nitrous on an LS with B16A pistons which would put my compression at about 10.8:1 and used a venom vcn-2000 kit and wanted about 80 to 100 extra hp....is this possible? right now i am just toying with the idea of nitrous for me rex with swap because i am not sure about what i want to do so i want to learn about it b4 i even think about trying it
I'm not sure, but I don't think B16 pistons even fit in an LS. Find out the diameter of an LS piston and the daimater of the B16 piston and you'll know for sure, I'm not sure.
94tegRS
05-15-2003, 05:52 PM
arent all b series blocks 81mm except for b20 which is 84mm?
CRXtc
05-15-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by integra818
I'm not sure, but I don't think B16 pistons even fit in an LS. Find out the diameter of an LS piston and the daimater of the B16 piston and you'll know for sure, I'm not sure.
they will because the B16A bore is the same as the B18A/B bore....like he said all b series bores are the same except the b20
I'm not sure, but I don't think B16 pistons even fit in an LS. Find out the diameter of an LS piston and the daimater of the B16 piston and you'll know for sure, I'm not sure.
they will because the B16A bore is the same as the B18A/B bore....like he said all b series bores are the same except the b20
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