New Mini vs New Beetle
DAINTY
10-11-2001, 10:16 AM
I think that New Mini is good cars. I like Mini design and characteristics. Mini Cooper is very good car. But i dont like Beatle design.
If to me have offered to choose between the Bug and Mini pass I precisely would buy last. And you?
If to me have offered to choose between the Bug and Mini pass I precisely would buy last. And you?
DVSNCYNIKL
10-11-2001, 10:19 AM
I think I would side with you on this one and go with the Mini. I'm not to keen on the design of the beetle.
hakka
10-11-2001, 06:59 PM
I think I would take the mini too, it actually has a little bit of a race heritage, looks (a little) better than the beetle, and is made by BMW
YellowMaranello
10-12-2001, 02:51 PM
Most definately the Mini. The Bug looks like it was beat with the ugly stick.http://www.plauder-smilies.de/rough/twak.gif
Twice.
Twice.
F20C
10-12-2001, 10:24 PM
Nah Beetle Turbo Sports is a lot better than Mini Cooper. 180hp 1.8T engine and a lot of tuneability. If you are talking about Mini Cooper S than I would pick the Chrysler engine powered supercharged mini.
PookJP
10-13-2001, 10:52 AM
Obviously the Mini.
dejoux
10-30-2001, 09:24 PM
I wouldnt buy either theyre both overpriced slo novelty cars.
If I had to choose Id pick the Mini. The beetle aint nothing but an unpractical version of a golf. Take it everybody has seent eh depth of the dashboard in a beetle. How ugly is that
If I had to choose Id pick the Mini. The beetle aint nothing but an unpractical version of a golf. Take it everybody has seent eh depth of the dashboard in a beetle. How ugly is that
F20C
10-30-2001, 09:26 PM
Mini have excellent handling.
Shaitan
05-29-2002, 01:30 PM
MINI
Ssom
05-29-2002, 09:33 PM
MINI as the Beetle is just an over-glorified Golf, which is a shit car in its' own right
What ya Smoking?!?
06-19-2002, 07:36 AM
the new Mini!:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper
StageOneGalant
06-19-2002, 08:57 AM
I would go with the MINI, jus because that BMW is designed it and is responsible for all MINI manufactures.:smoker2:
YogsVR4
06-19-2002, 09:02 AM
I cant fit in a Mini and the Beetle is a pretty lame looking car, but I would rather have it then the mini.
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NISSANSPDR
06-19-2002, 10:10 AM
Mini Cooper S...there's a 195HP version that hopefully come state side soon...
HELLS YEAH!
http://www.euroautofestival.com/Mini-Cooper-S.jpg
HELLS YEAH!
http://www.euroautofestival.com/Mini-Cooper-S.jpg
swedish
06-19-2002, 10:22 AM
yeah, mini for me, look at the pic, it might be a small little "novelty" car, but at least they tried to give it some pleasing asthetics (wheras the beetle looks like an up-side-down bathtub with wheel wells:rolleyes: ) The only thing that looks kinda poor on the mini's is the side mirrors.
Ando_Rules
06-20-2002, 07:08 AM
the beetle is kinda ugly IMO so i pick the minni
crayzayjay
06-21-2002, 06:14 PM
MINI by far, its actually a very good car.
Moss1O6GTi> How can you say Golfs are sh*t????
Moss1O6GTi> How can you say Golfs are sh*t????
|Banchi1O5|
06-23-2002, 03:39 PM
I would also choose the mini for obvious reasons
but it is fwd right?
but it is fwd right?
crayzayjay
06-23-2002, 05:50 PM
Affirmitive
|Banchi1O5|
06-24-2002, 12:09 AM
i really wish it wasnt maybe awd would be nice
crayzayjay
06-24-2002, 02:12 PM
rwd would be even nicer :D
|Banchi1O5|
06-24-2002, 06:03 PM
im sorry :)
1st - awd
2nd - rwd
3rd - a bicycle
4th - a nice 1/24th scale model
763rd - fwd
:)
just my opinion
but since its coming from me
its more than just an opinion - its an absolute truth! :smoker2:
1st - awd
2nd - rwd
3rd - a bicycle
4th - a nice 1/24th scale model
763rd - fwd
:)
just my opinion
but since its coming from me
its more than just an opinion - its an absolute truth! :smoker2:
crayzayjay
06-27-2002, 12:58 PM
lol... exaggerating a little arent you? :D at least FWD is travelling by car, plus there are some very good FWD cars (I wont even bother listing them)....
1. RWD
2. AWD
3. FWD
4. Motorbike (not scooter)
5. Bicycle
6. Skateboard
7. Walking
1. RWD
2. AWD
3. FWD
4. Motorbike (not scooter)
5. Bicycle
6. Skateboard
7. Walking
ArtemisEntreriR34
07-10-2002, 07:54 PM
Mini, since its made by BMW, and it looks way better then Beetle. And definintly RWD is #1!
Jay!
07-10-2002, 08:06 PM
I like Minis. :)
The old Minis, even being FWD, were some of the best handling cars EVER. I'd like to go see how well BMW has fared at this...
The old Minis, even being FWD, were some of the best handling cars EVER. I'd like to go see how well BMW has fared at this...
|Banchi1O5|
07-10-2002, 11:10 PM
The old mini was fwd?
man
i watch old vidz
on speed all the time
of the lil mini zipping around tracks and stuff
and i coulda sworn it was rwd
well still a really really cool car :)
man
i watch old vidz
on speed all the time
of the lil mini zipping around tracks and stuff
and i coulda sworn it was rwd
well still a really really cool car :)
Ssom
07-11-2002, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by crayzayjay
MINI by far, its actually a very good car.
Moss1O6GTi> How can you say Golfs are sh*t????
Well I like the way they look, the engineering and thier quality of build. HOWEVER the 1.4, 1.6, N/A 1.8 and 2.0 engines are gutless as hell, the reliability is slipping and they are seriously overwieght.
However the 1.8 Turbo, V5, 1.9 TDi and VR6 are still good cars.
They still need to look at what made the Mk2 Golf GTi such a good car (Hell even my Mk 2 Jetta is a better drive than a Mk 4)
MINI by far, its actually a very good car.
Moss1O6GTi> How can you say Golfs are sh*t????
Well I like the way they look, the engineering and thier quality of build. HOWEVER the 1.4, 1.6, N/A 1.8 and 2.0 engines are gutless as hell, the reliability is slipping and they are seriously overwieght.
However the 1.8 Turbo, V5, 1.9 TDi and VR6 are still good cars.
They still need to look at what made the Mk2 Golf GTi such a good car (Hell even my Mk 2 Jetta is a better drive than a Mk 4)
Fliquer
07-11-2002, 10:52 PM
Its too bad the mini is waaaay overpriced. You're paying about 20k (after dealer padding) for a car that is half the size of an accord and half the engine (115 hp).
Ssom
07-12-2002, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Fliquer
Its too bad the mini is waaaay overpriced. You're paying about 20k (after dealer padding) for a car that is half the size of an accord and half the engine (115 hp).
Yeah, BUT, despite a silky V6 and auto-tranny, the Accords driving experience is as dull as dish-water, unlike the MINI's, which is apparantley a stonking good drive and half the engine??? Who gives, the Cooper S well makes up for that one and does size REALLY matter?
Its too bad the mini is waaaay overpriced. You're paying about 20k (after dealer padding) for a car that is half the size of an accord and half the engine (115 hp).
Yeah, BUT, despite a silky V6 and auto-tranny, the Accords driving experience is as dull as dish-water, unlike the MINI's, which is apparantley a stonking good drive and half the engine??? Who gives, the Cooper S well makes up for that one and does size REALLY matter?
crayzayjay
07-12-2002, 08:46 AM
Well I like the way they look, the engineering and thier quality of build. HOWEVER the 1.4, 1.6, N/A 1.8 and 2.0 engines are gutless as hell, the reliability is slipping and they are seriously overwieght.
OK, they are getting fat, which i dont like, but VW is giving the public what they seem to want because GOlfs are sellling in bigger numbers than ever... The GTi's arent the drivers cars they used to be, but then again neither are their competitors' hot hatches etc... its a shame hatches are growing vertically as well as horizontally... IMO the Civic Type R looks like a mini-MPV on steroids... not pretty at all, but its the way cars are going now
OK, they are getting fat, which i dont like, but VW is giving the public what they seem to want because GOlfs are sellling in bigger numbers than ever... The GTi's arent the drivers cars they used to be, but then again neither are their competitors' hot hatches etc... its a shame hatches are growing vertically as well as horizontally... IMO the Civic Type R looks like a mini-MPV on steroids... not pretty at all, but its the way cars are going now
Ssom
07-12-2002, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by crayzayjay
OK, they are getting fat, which i dont like, but VW is giving the public what they seem to want because GOlfs are sellling in bigger numbers than ever... The GTi's arent the drivers cars they used to be, but then again neither are their competitors' hot hatches etc... its a shame hatches are growing vertically as well as horizontally... IMO the Civic Type R looks like a mini-MPV on steroids... not pretty at all, but its the way cars are going now
But the GTi in the UK is just a specification level isn't it??? Before teh Mk4 GTi was replaced by the V5 the NZ-spec had a 1.8 Turbo motor, ie. The real deal. But despite the 1.8T being a good drive the base models are lacking compared to thier Mk 2 counterparts (as said)
Although the Civic Type R (Which sadly we do not get here) is supposed to be a good driver despite it's butt-ugliness am I right? I know the performance is top-notch, but I think the fact that it is so tall, might just hamper the experience..........
What about the new Focus ST range? what are they like?
OK, they are getting fat, which i dont like, but VW is giving the public what they seem to want because GOlfs are sellling in bigger numbers than ever... The GTi's arent the drivers cars they used to be, but then again neither are their competitors' hot hatches etc... its a shame hatches are growing vertically as well as horizontally... IMO the Civic Type R looks like a mini-MPV on steroids... not pretty at all, but its the way cars are going now
But the GTi in the UK is just a specification level isn't it??? Before teh Mk4 GTi was replaced by the V5 the NZ-spec had a 1.8 Turbo motor, ie. The real deal. But despite the 1.8T being a good drive the base models are lacking compared to thier Mk 2 counterparts (as said)
Although the Civic Type R (Which sadly we do not get here) is supposed to be a good driver despite it's butt-ugliness am I right? I know the performance is top-notch, but I think the fact that it is so tall, might just hamper the experience..........
What about the new Focus ST range? what are they like?
crayzayjay
07-14-2002, 07:50 AM
I think the base "Gt" in the UK is actually a diesel, it outperforms the lesser 125bhp GTi. Youre right, the lesser models arent great to drive if youre into your thrills, but VW have clearly moved away from that now. The best Golf is probably the V5 170bhp.
The Civic is supposed to be a great drive but the tallness of the thing does of course hamper the experience to some extent (how much better would it have been if it was a regular size old-stylee hatch.
As for the Focus ST170, its supposed to be very good to drive but the chassis could handle even more power, which is sometimes disappointing that they just didnt give it this power. When's the RS coming out?
The Civic is supposed to be a great drive but the tallness of the thing does of course hamper the experience to some extent (how much better would it have been if it was a regular size old-stylee hatch.
As for the Focus ST170, its supposed to be very good to drive but the chassis could handle even more power, which is sometimes disappointing that they just didnt give it this power. When's the RS coming out?
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