i have a 90 dx hb i need help bad
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 02:36 PM
first off i don;t rly know how much hp my 16 valve pos stock engine has i know its between 92 and 115 so i want to get an engine swap i just don;t know what kind gathering from what people have told me a b16a has 160hp and costs 900 bucks so i might get that if that info is accuarte or if theres a better engine out there like mabye a b16b or b18c5 i would go for that my only problem is i only have 2500 saved up to do this so my question is what should i do??
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 02:38 PM
what are you trying to go for...future wise or are you just wanting a swap?
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 02:40 PM
well im looking for just a swap now but i need to save up for a performance clutch short-ram intake 4 to 2 to 1 headers mabye new exaust and i wanna take off my cad convertor
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 02:41 PM
i also wanna get the engine either brand new or some miles but not a whole lot and hopefully with an engine with 5 spd tranny that comes with it
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 02:44 PM
B18C5 IS PROBABLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE ENGINE TO PUT IN A CIVIC....CLOSR TO $5000 MIUNS THE MOTOR MOUNTS, SHIPPING, AND INSTALATION....YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO WITH A B18C OR AN B16A2
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 02:47 PM
do you know how much it would run me up for any of those 2 engines? and how many hp do each of them have? thanks
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by H4Bangin
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/1115/enginespecs2.html
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/1115/enginespecs2.html
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 03:00 PM
ok nice now i just need some prices onl;y got 2500 $$$ mabye i could get a load but im getting killed with insurance untill march/may when i get new policy fuckin payin 300 a month now but goin down to 150
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 03:03 PM
I'D CHECK EBAY OUT....NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE LIKE EBAY BUT ALWAYS BUY STUFF......THEY CURRENTLY HAVE SOME GOOD STUFF...PUT IN EITHER "B16" "B18" OF "HONDA ENGINE" IF NO GOOD PRICES....THE LOOK AROUND AT DIFFERENT WEBSITES....SURE SOMEONE UP HERE HAS SOMEPLACE YOU COULD GO
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 03:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2401726077&category=33615
is this a good deal 1.7k for less than 40k miles brakes engine 5spd tranny axles (i need a new front axle anyways my boot is torn makes a lot of clicking noises)
is this a good deal 1.7k for less than 40k miles brakes engine 5spd tranny axles (i need a new front axle anyways my boot is torn makes a lot of clicking noises)
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 03:16 PM
THAT SEEMS COOL....NOW YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT SHIPPING...I THINK ITS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE SINCE THEY'RE SHIPPING THE WHOLE FRONT CLIP
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 03:19 PM
shipping 500 bucks so it would run me up to 2,200 how much is the engine swap itself gonna cost? prolly 1000 i think
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 03:29 PM
i'd go ahead and buy it and put it in the garage or buy a tarpe and put over it...that way atleast you'll have it and save my money to put it in
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 03:35 PM
aight thanks man since no 1 has bid on it i sent him an email offering him 1500-1700 shipped hope he takes it then i can afford to still put it in :sun:
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 03:37 PM
cool...let me know what happens
mellowboy
02-06-2003, 03:52 PM
Just go with b16. You'll be satisfied with it.
www.flashoptions.com
Stay away from b16b or b18c5. Its not worth the money. First gen b16a is a good choice. B16a2 cost too much and it comes with hydro tranny. Not only that its obd1 or obd2 depending on years.
www.flashoptions.com
Stay away from b16b or b18c5. Its not worth the money. First gen b16a is a good choice. B16a2 cost too much and it comes with hydro tranny. Not only that its obd1 or obd2 depending on years.
׿Pyro¿×
02-06-2003, 04:44 PM
Damn Blu take it easy on the caps lock lol
Jameson
Jameson
GTA
02-06-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by ׿Pyro¿×
Damn Blu take it easy on the caps lock lol
Jameson
do you have signatures turned off?? he will always have caps on if he is at work, its says that in his sig..
Damn Blu take it easy on the caps lock lol
Jameson
do you have signatures turned off?? he will always have caps on if he is at work, its says that in his sig..
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 06:49 PM
ok ive decided to go with a b16a all i need to do is find a cheap engine with the whole kit axles 5spd tranny brakes the whole ordeal wish i knew how to put it in myself.......i dun wanna pay some prick at a garage to put it in mabye da auto shop in my school will do it trying to talk this guy down to 1500 shipped on ebay but he's got a bogus email for ebay fuckin pos
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by blueturtle
ok ive decided to go with a b16a all i need to do is find a cheap engine with the whole kit axles 5spd tranny brakes the whole ordeal wish i knew how to put it in myself.......i dun wanna pay some prick at a garage to put it in mabye da auto shop in my school will do it trying to talk this guy down to 1500 shipped on ebay but he's got a bogus email for ebay fuckin pos
take it that he's not moving on the price...i checked out the auction and DON'T GET IT b/c he only has one feedback and i wouldn't trust making thta big of a purchase with someone that only has one feedback...if that's a business then that's different
ok ive decided to go with a b16a all i need to do is find a cheap engine with the whole kit axles 5spd tranny brakes the whole ordeal wish i knew how to put it in myself.......i dun wanna pay some prick at a garage to put it in mabye da auto shop in my school will do it trying to talk this guy down to 1500 shipped on ebay but he's got a bogus email for ebay fuckin pos
take it that he's not moving on the price...i checked out the auction and DON'T GET IT b/c he only has one feedback and i wouldn't trust making thta big of a purchase with someone that only has one feedback...if that's a business then that's different
BLU CIVIC
02-06-2003, 07:40 PM
besides here's his feedback...and it isn't good
Left by Date Item# S/B
sailwaygal(250) Jan-29-03 19:17:11 PST (private) S
Complaint : Damgaed goods-No response to emails or phone calls for several weeks now
dimples360(1) Jan-25-03 08:33:01 PST 1974949716 S
Complaint : Damaged goods rec'd would not remedy. Gave 4 wks to fix. Email me for details.
jchamberlinj(0) Jan-15-03 13:46:12 PST 1873635509 S
Complaint : paid for the seats never recived paid $455 they will not answer beware!!!!!!!!
luvmi3kds(83) Dec-31-02 13:45:25 PST 1979182546 S
Praise : Great experience. This seller is worthing dealing with!
usaepay(397) Dec-21-02 13:18:51 PST 1925704005 B
Praise : Thanks!
caroutput(221) Dec-17-02 18:58:52 PST 1945464370 B
Praise : Good communication, fast pay would deal again A+++
redlinezone.c0m(6503) Dec-12-02 18:05:00 PST 1874047151 B
Praise : Prompt email reply and extremely fast payment. The Best! Thanks!! A++
Left by Date Item# S/B
sailwaygal(250) Jan-29-03 19:17:11 PST (private) S
Complaint : Damgaed goods-No response to emails or phone calls for several weeks now
dimples360(1) Jan-25-03 08:33:01 PST 1974949716 S
Complaint : Damaged goods rec'd would not remedy. Gave 4 wks to fix. Email me for details.
jchamberlinj(0) Jan-15-03 13:46:12 PST 1873635509 S
Complaint : paid for the seats never recived paid $455 they will not answer beware!!!!!!!!
luvmi3kds(83) Dec-31-02 13:45:25 PST 1979182546 S
Praise : Great experience. This seller is worthing dealing with!
usaepay(397) Dec-21-02 13:18:51 PST 1925704005 B
Praise : Thanks!
caroutput(221) Dec-17-02 18:58:52 PST 1945464370 B
Praise : Good communication, fast pay would deal again A+++
redlinezone.c0m(6503) Dec-12-02 18:05:00 PST 1874047151 B
Praise : Prompt email reply and extremely fast payment. The Best! Thanks!! A++
blueturtle
02-06-2003, 07:45 PM
yeah i saw that then i decided agianst him my friend said i can find that engine for 900 bucks if i just look around so im gonna check the bargain news and stuff
mellowboy
02-06-2003, 07:53 PM
did u try www.flashoptions.com ? Its pretty good deals they be havin.
91civichatch2571
02-06-2003, 09:27 PM
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=category&keyword=JDM%20USDM%20Engines
^They seem to have a damn good deal.
^They seem to have a damn good deal.
1990civic
02-06-2003, 10:36 PM
what model civic do you have? also i wanted to let you know that the b16 engine is not just drop in and start up, it actually is very complicated. are you familiar with honda engines? depending on the model of your civic will determine the level of complication. if you have an SI, its less complicated because of MPFI, but if you have a DX, or an STD thats going to be coplicated as hell. also 2500 bucks might be cutting it to close, when you add in the swap 1500 bucks (quality) i would suggest hmotoronline also!! then you have to buy a bunch of teg parts from a 90-93 acura. i think you have to buy axels,ecu,dizzy,etc. now when you buy the teg parts its not done there, you then have to buy motor mounts which run about 300 bucks. so as you see it does add up, and you have to plan for problems, so if your insisting on the b16 i would wait until you have about 3500 bucks, but if you want speed why dont you go with a ZC engine and TURBO it? by the time you get the b16 swap done you could have a ZC engine turboed. also the zc engine is so much easier to put into our 4thgen's. just some advice for you. also if you have never rebuilt a honda engine, or dont know much about honda's i suggest you have it professionaly done!!
1990civic
02-06-2003, 10:37 PM
MY BAD I JUST READ THE TITLE YOU HAVE A DX, I WOULD RE-THINK YOUR PLANS ON SWAPPING!!!!
blueturtle
02-07-2003, 07:18 AM
ok thanks guys what kind of zc engine should i get? and how much hp and cash does that cost?? (still learning little by little) god i hate having 92 hp stock !!!!!!
BLU CIVIC
02-07-2003, 07:33 AM
i'm about to turbo a zc....here's the thread..lots of good info
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85429
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85429
BLU CIVIC
02-07-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by blueturtle
ok thanks guys what kind of zc engine should i get? and how much hp and cash does that cost?? (still learning little by little) god i hate having 92 hp stock !!!!!!
i think you need to stop complaining about you 92 hp stock....i only have 70hp here :(
ok thanks guys what kind of zc engine should i get? and how much hp and cash does that cost?? (still learning little by little) god i hate having 92 hp stock !!!!!!
i think you need to stop complaining about you 92 hp stock....i only have 70hp here :(
blueturtle
02-07-2003, 07:38 AM
damn that sucks aight i shut my mouth now =\
blueturtle
02-07-2003, 07:51 AM
F20B
wonder if that engine will fit in my dx nice ass 6spd with 248hp
wonder if that engine will fit in my dx nice ass 6spd with 248hp
BLU CIVIC
02-07-2003, 07:53 AM
YOU CAN MAKE ANYTHING FIT....FOR THE RIGHT ABOUT OF MONEY:D
blueturtle
02-07-2003, 08:33 AM
lol true true
mellowboy
02-07-2003, 10:18 AM
Just wanna let u guys know that a turbo zc isn't gonna be much faster than b16 with basic bolt ons. I would just go b16 and save up a lil more for turbo. b16 with upgraded fuel and turbo kit at 7-8psi is already high 13s or maybe mid depending on tires and also upgraded clutch will help.
blueturtle
02-07-2003, 11:58 AM
what would be a good clutch to go with my b16a engine??
mellowboy
02-07-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by blueturtle
what would be a good clutch to go with my b16a engine??
ACT or Clutchmasters . I would go stage 2 maybe 3.
what would be a good clutch to go with my b16a engine??
ACT or Clutchmasters . I would go stage 2 maybe 3.
BLU CIVIC
02-07-2003, 02:30 PM
wasn't there a thread about the clutches?? guess i'll have to go look
BLU CIVIC
02-07-2003, 02:32 PM
here we go...not sure if it'll help
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84584&highlight=clutch
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84584&highlight=clutch
1990civic
02-07-2003, 04:12 PM
Turbo Zc Is The Way To Go. AMI said something along time ago that make a lot of sense, she said to go with a d16 and build that up, the reason for that is if you blow the engine, which if you race YOU WILL BLOW THE ENGINE SOONER OR LATER it wont be an arm and a leg to get a new block, or parts for the engine. now the same goes for a zc they are cheaper to repair, than a b16 which is very expensive. not only that a zc you could put in yourself, a b16 you might want to pay somebody to do that!!
blueturtle
02-08-2003, 09:15 PM
haha i bet if i put any engine in myself the little shit will blow up sooner or later
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