Dc Sports

are they worth getting the 4-2-1 ceramic coated headers for my 99 civic ex, its an auto.

ive heard on this forum that single cam motors dont really gain hp from headers

well they better cuz i wanna put 1 of dem bitches on bad!!!

It will gain hp but not as much as a DOHC motor. And if you are looking into a header GET THE DC SPORTS I have one and went through 3 headers before the dcsports and it is far superior to the rest I have tried.

so them ceramic headers are good, how do they look now and how long have you had them installed?
everywhere i go it says 12-14hp
so mine should be half that?
i have a aem cai and custom cat back.

people are going to tell u those gains to sell u the product. on a SOHC motor, look for maybe 2-3 hp gains. its not going to be much more than that. if u really are lookin for speed, drop ur d-series motor, an the auto tranny. OR turbo it :D . but still, answer to ur q, it really jus depends if u want to spend that money for that gain.

damn i want aliitle more hp that that but i dont want to go turbo.
what esle can i use to produce more power

I have had the header for about a year now and it still looks like it did they day I put it on! The gray faded just a smigen but not even nnoticeable. I will take a pic today if I get a chance.
And to answer your other question, nitrous would be a great way to add significant hp without the coat of turbo.

please post that pic if you can and i want some hp for regular street power. then maybe some strip hp.

Here are the pics!

Another pic!

damn, whtteg those headers look sweeeeeet.:) i just might get some but not dc sports, but ill be sure to get ceramic. ;)

Thanks for posting those pics.
and yea they look sweet!

Thanks, they have faded a little but that is normal. I have heard that they all fade after a little driving.

I got the DC 4-2-1 Ceramics on my 1990 Accord. I love em, the only thing is, I get them a little cheaper cuz they had a very very slight hole in the one weld, but it was nothing that some Therma-Seal couldnt fix.

IMO all that you pay for when you buy DC is the little badge you get on the damn thing and not all of em have the badge. Take a look at the dyno's. 4-2-1's are mid range to high end headers no matter what the brand and is exactly what a SOHC needs. The most you'll get out of any headers is about 8hp and that's on a DOHC with Type R 4-1 header or Mugen. The biggest gain I've seen on the dyno with DC is 4hp. The only other header that I've seen that gives you a good gain is the Landspeed Powercore which puts out 7hp. If you don't plan to boost make sure you do some reaserch for the best bang for your buck. Or you could be like everyone else and buy a DC. Hey I bought one for my old engine.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
people are going to tell u those gains to sell u the product. on a SOHC motor, look for maybe 2-3 hp gains. its not going to be much more than that. if u really are lookin for speed, drop ur d-series motor, an the auto tranny. OR turbo it :D . but still, answer to ur q, it really jus depends if u want to spend that money for that gain.

Same goes with DOHC. You dont get much from headers unless you go all out. Dc sports are very good header for your ex. Yes you'll feel the difference but not much since its auto.

Originally posted by B16EJ1
The most you'll get out of any headers is about 8hp and that's on a DOHC with Type R 4-1 header or Mugen

A friend of mine showed me a link from honda tech that Hytech header put out about 15 plus hp to the wheel with just basic bolt ons! I believe its the best header out there and its jdm style. Dc sports jdm is ranked up there also. Like i said before you're not gonna get much from a header unless u modify your engine more.

I just want a total of like 40 extra ponies and then some NOS.
So what do i need to do to make my n/a engine get 40 extra ponies.
please someone write all the bolts on etc. that i need.
I know auto's suck but i love mine!

So what you af members are saying is that i should get any brand 4-2-1 headers for my car and it will give me the same performance as the dc sports headers?

You cannot get 40 extra hp from bolt-ons unles you go forced induction.
To get 40hp ypou will need to go inside the motor.

So what you af members are saying is that i should get any brand 4-2-1 headers for my car and it will give me the same performance as the dc sports headers?

The hp gain maybe close but the quality may not! If you want a good header go with DC Sports, if you want a heder that will be bent wrong, leaky, fade and turn colors and break pron welds, than go with a cheap one. I have learned the hard way that in most cases, but not all, You get what you pay for. I personaly went through 3 headers before I got the DC Sports and it was because of the above reasons!

there isnt any cheaper ones but that are still better .
where is the cheapest place to get dc sports?

well i found this dude selling some dc sports headers 4-2-1 2 piece and a hi flow cat for only 220. im getting them this weekend.
ill keep ya posted.

BTW, hondas utilize A HEADER. ONE. NOT TWO OR THREE OR FOUR.

HEADER IS SINGULAR. HEADERS IS PLURAL.

A HEADER
A HEADER
A HEADER

not headers. idiots.

WAA WAA go bitch some more to ya mother HO!!

i put the header on but they make a slight rattling sound, everything feels tight but it doesnt seem to go away?
help

Originally posted by SlammedCivicSedan
are they worth getting the 4-2-1 ceramic coated headers for my 99 civic ex, its an auto.


Well with the SOHC you will not gain much HP from just a header but when you add exhaust and a high flow cat then you will gain more horses from the header. I would recommend getting the DC 4-2-1 header that is what I have on my Single Cam.

i have all that now, the basic I/H/E. now i want some more.
:flipa: :finger:

gonna bring this up again as its pretty close to my question. So DC sports ceramic 4-2-1 header is the best for the common man eh? one or two peice?

also, since my car is an automatic also, would these header and exhaust work with a Jackson Racing SC? on my auto. And would I need anything else to make sure my engine worked correctly? I heard some gaskets for the intake pipes to the heads was a must, but what else?

thanks:)

btw- the exhaust I was thinking of was the Apexi WS.

Well if you have a jrsc you may want to consider the 4-1 one piece. This will help at high rpms. The 4-2-1 is usualy recomended b/c of the mid range hp increase, but since you have a s/c mid range will be fine anyway:D

Chikara header are pretty good for supercharger.