Civic exhaust

i have a '93 Honda Civic dx. its pretty slow. but anyway, do you all think

that a muffler and new bigger pipe ran all the way through, help out this

poor honda? if so, how much do you think all the new being ran would cost?

Thanks

well breathing out better would help, but you gotta be able to breathe in better too. if you're gonna spend the coin, and do the exhaust, start with the intake, then a header to get those exhaust pulses lined up and flowing good, then out the new bigger pipe and high flow muffler.

check out the FAQ, theres a great post/article in there about exhausts n such. depending on your brand and build of choice, or your exhaust shop, the whole thing intake to exhaust fumes could run from $550 and up. ($550 is cheap, you'd be lucky and do alot of work yourself)

check out the FAQ, check out other Honda/Acura forums, and use the search. Depending on your system, you could net about 15 HP from a new I/H/E.

good luck

If you just want a sweet sound get a catback system and an intake, no need for header. In my opinion a header is overrated. Too much money.

intake... best bang for the buck.. IMO

header on dx is a waste. SOHC isn't going to need it...jus got an intake (short ram or CAI, doesn't really matter), an then get a full cat system. but don't get too big of piping. my frien jus got 2 1/4 inch piping all the way back, an he lost power because of the lack of back pressure.

Id spend the extra money and go fot the cold air intake, instead of the short ram

Originally posted by markpa
Id spend the extra money and go fot the cold air intake, instead of the short ram

why? give me one reason why the cold air is going to make much of a difference then the short ram. (don't say because the numbers say it will add up to 10 hp, because its not going to on a SOHC civic). get a short ram with a K&N air filter, an u'll see the same power as a CAI.

Its actually simple, do you want hot air or cold air to come into the engine?

i am assuming his rx7 is stock because if he doesnt even know if an exhaust will help out his car then he must not know about cars, so his rx7 must be stock

mines short ram, but that's because i cant find a cold air for it

Dude, if you're lookin' for speed, go nitro
Only guyz that are looking for attention get exhausts:frog:

nitrous? on a stock 93 civic? ive never heard of anything so dumb. that may give you about 20hp not to mention the fact that it will ruin your engine.

Stay away from Nitrous if you got a 4cylendar. Unless you got after market pistons and camshaft and a few other upgrades. You will totaly kill your engine. My buddy tried 2 shots in his 1.8 and smoked it. What idiot.:rolleyes:

I think that spending $1000 on intake and exhaust just to gain 10 hp is also pretty dumb! You only ruin your engine if you do it wrong:frog: trust me, with NOS you never lose

Originally posted by dirk-diggler
I think that spending $1000 on intake and exhaust just to gain 10 hp is also pretty dumb! You only ruin your engine if you do it wrong:frog: trust me, with NOS you never lose

you've got to be kidding, they are about to tear the shit out of that comment

No crap!! Im not sure how i stumbled into this thread, but i do know that NOS is cheap HP, but will cost you more than $1000 when i blows your motor and you add in the cost to get the stuff.

Originally posted by dirk-diggler
I think that spending $1000 on intake and exhaust just to gain 10 hp is also pretty dumb! You only ruin your engine if you do it wrong:frog: trust me, with NOS you never lose Im not gunna even bother flaming you ill let someone else do it.

let me handle this one markpa. well nos is cheap hp huh? not after you go smoking your piston rings and making ovals out of your cylinders. and you say it will work if you do it right. yes i agree but doing it right takes a lot of work and money. that includes changing pistons, rings and maybe even rods. not to mention you will need an intake and exhaust to provide enough flow. even if you only run a 35 shot which is the smallest i believe, what you are doing is forcing your pistons to move a lot faster then they are designed to from the factory. this causes excessive wear on the piston rings. your car may run yes but you will have a lot of blow by. that means that the explosion in the combustion chamber blows by the piston and doesnt push it down. after a few uses your whole rings will be gone and that translates to a FULL engine rebuild. im talking almost all the moving parts you got in there not to mention your block might get f*cked. some people might run it on stock engines, i have a friend who does, but now their cars are a lot slower than they were before because of the blow by. now they have to use the nos to get any sort of power. and if he keeps doing it his engine will fail. if ive forgotten anything please excuse me. im not trying to flame you, just enlighten.......
we must all learn sometime my son.....:smoker2:

Originally posted by dirk-diggler
I think that spending $1000 on intake and exhaust just to gain 10 hp is also pretty dumb! You only ruin your engine if you do it wrong:frog: trust me, with NOS you never lose

HA HA :biggrin2: "whack"

cause see NOS is like crack. you try a little for the first time, and yer like WHOA BABY kick ass! you're zoomin all around, makin people nervous, feelin invincible. then you do a lil more, yeha that's it a nice 50 shot, yeah feelin good, really feelin big, but you wonder why you have trouble getting it up. but you're still zoomin. then you keep tryin that 50 shot, pretty soon your rings are lookin like the crack hoe with the bags under her eyes, you know the one, shes 30 but looks 75. pretty soon just to get off the line your shootin NOS in first, then you have to up the dose, and you keep shootin sooner and sooner, more and more, until something eventually blows up.

then what? gotta spend all that money to find a new pimp, everyone at the old corner is laughin at you, and your pistons just cant get up anymore to turn those tricks like they used to....its a sad state of affairs.

Yeah edman you're right, first thig that happened I blew a piston, but then I got smart, and now I got it going on. There's no point in bolting on some CRummy exhaust system when you still got a cat slowin you down, a straight pipe is the best and it's free. I'm wondering how many of you guys actually buy all that brand name tin just get get the stickers and put them all over yer cars so you can impress you little buddys to fit in. Time and time again I've seen so many Slim Shady wannabes trying to scare me with their GReddy stickers calling my car a piecce of crap, just to watch'em disapear in my rear view in the end. But that's what separates a racer from a ricer. I think too many guys out there thinking they're racers when all they know what to do is to bolt on junk that they see in magazines that overexagerate their output just because the manufacturers pay them to.
Yeah, with Nitro you gotta do more maintenance, but I've rebuilt my motor so many times I can do it with a blindfold on, unless you don't like to get your hands dirty, And don't forget if you want 20 extra horsepower, doesn't matter if you're using nitro or turbo or N/A you're still stressing the engine.

yup exactly my point diggler. name brands just arent worth the extra money.

Originally posted by edman24
yup exactly my point diggler. name brands just arent worth the extra money.

you both are wrong..yet this my be true for intakes

my exhaust is farely name brand and i like it better than any i've ever heard

hey shep thats big talking for someone with no reason. prove me wrong then ill listen............

name brands just arent worth the extra money

Your right. When you pay $120 for a Borla you are basically paying $40 for the Name and the extra garbage that comes with them. My Exhaust was cheap and easy....nuff said...

now I think there is a happy medium here that is being over looked...

frankly if I had to choose between a muffler from GReddy or Skunk2 versus a muffler from Bubba Industries, Im likely to go with the name brand.

true, many times you are just paying for the name and can find something just as good, if not better, for MUCH less money, especially when it comes to exhausts. theres a great muffler shop around here, and all Im buying for my exhaust that will cost alot is a header (I want stainless) and a universal muffler that doesnt sound like a taco bell late at night. the rest is custom and cheap, pipes is pipes (catalytic schmatalitic we dont have exhaust checks!).

now one may say you get what you pay for, true, but why overpay for it?

very well put wheel. in some cases yes it may be good to go name brand but for exhausts, its really not worth the extra money. i wish i had acces to a dyno and some different exhaust setups that way i could prove my point.

aaa hummm dyno never lies... while in the case of an intake name might not matter that much..name brand exausts all have dyno results.
so if you want to peice together an exaust for more power you have to #1 peice together your system $$
#2 pay to have it installed (if you don't weld) $$$$
#3 take it to the dyno and see if you gained any hp $$$

or you buy your exaust from a brand name company who has done all the dyno work and taken the TIME&RESEARCH to make sure you get the best bends...
you dicide. if you just want a loud exaust take a hammer and smash it through your muffler
schools out :devil:

Originally posted by markpa
Its actually simple, do you want hot air or cold air to come into the engine?

it isn't going to matter that much. look at the gains, don't jus look at what it says it will do. you really think drawing in intake from a food extra away, that you are going to see any bigger gains? maybe 1-2 hp...which is nothing u will ever notice. so in the end, it DOESN'T matter if you get CAI or short ram. jus the CAI is going to be a waste of extra money for no noticable gain.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00


it isn't going to matter that much. look at the gains, don't jus look at what it says it will do. you really think drawing in intake from a food extra away, that you are going to see any bigger gains? maybe 1-2 hp...which is nothing u will ever notice. so in the end, it DOESN'T matter if you get CAI or short ram. jus the CAI is going to be a waste of extra money for no noticable gain.

by having a short ram you also less'n the chances of hydro locking your engine

nah school aint out shep.

youre missing the point. any competent muffler shop can make perfect mandrel bends that can create good airflow. then all the have to do is add some brackets and a muffler. actually i just had it done on my scirocco. i must say that im loving it. and if i bought the name brand one for my car it would have cost me 450. but this one that has the exact same bends and better build quality is only 210. get my drift......

Originally posted by edman24
nah school aint out shep.

youre missing the point. any competent muffler shop can make perfect mandrel bends that can create good airflow. then all the have to do is add some brackets and a muffler. actually i just had it done on my scirocco. i must say that im loving it. and if i bought the name brand one for my car it would have cost me 450. but this one that has the exact same bends and better build quality is only 210. get my drift......

is it stainless? if you just had this done how can you verify the build quality? see how long it holds out 1st.

go run it on a dyno now..

basically this is going in my sig " it's your car so do what you like"
sure there might be a $20-$50 charge due to name..but i'd rather be wearing nike as opposed to keds.. i would also prefer to buy any mechanical parts from a company who can also sell me cams or any internal parts because they know my car & motor better then joe the muffler guy..
when i parts i'd like to know they work 1st instead of taking the chance of having it done and then running it on a dyno..so your $210 just took another $200 whack to see if you job was done right..but it's your car so you guys decide how you want to do it!!! if you don't want or think you can get the same quailty for less then DO IT... i don't care because it's not my car..you decide :grey:

Youre still not getting it, why the hell do you want hot air going into your car when for a couple bucks extra u can get cold air? Its better for you engine overall:flipa:

i like my greddy because it makes a nice deep sound, not a loud fart, so it's not all in performance, i know greddy proabably performs decent, but i'd pay extra just for the nice sound it makes

Originally posted by markpa
Youre still not getting it, why the hell do you want hot air going into your car when for a couple bucks extra u can get cold air? Its better for you engine overall:flipa:

rite...because its SO much cooler rite? serious now, its not that much cooler taking the air from down there. the entire piping system is still going rite near your motor, so how are u going to say that it is a lot cooler? it isn't...an if ur driving down in some place like AZ or somewhere it is hot, its going to be taking in air at 80+ degrees anyways. your arguement really doesn't justify the extra cash...but if u like it, then cool. this is jus my opinion an reasoning.