Wanting to create a new car for RACING!
TerminalVelocity
01-30-2003, 12:20 AM
b18c with turbo into a delsol
how illegal in CA is this people?
how illegal in CA is this people?
Self
01-30-2003, 02:36 AM
Depends on the turbo I would think...Might be able to get away with it if the swapped engine is of a later year than the original and the turbo kit is a Greddy.
TerminalVelocity
01-30-2003, 01:34 PM
cj told me it should because it recycles the exaust gasses, is the collecter before or after the cat?
(hope I used the right term...:o )
(hope I used the right term...:o )
-The Stig-
01-31-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
cj told me it should because it recycles the exaust gasses, is the collecter before or after the cat?
(hope I used the right term...:o )
You ever stop to think these people in may not know who Cj is? hahaha...
Cj is HybridSol for all of you people who didnt know.
cj told me it should because it recycles the exaust gasses, is the collecter before or after the cat?
(hope I used the right term...:o )
You ever stop to think these people in may not know who Cj is? hahaha...
Cj is HybridSol for all of you people who didnt know.
TerminalVelocity
01-31-2003, 03:19 AM
I normally say hybrid...
hahaha, mass tired makes me screw up
whatever....chipashapuddle!
hahaha, mass tired makes me screw up
whatever....chipashapuddle!
Self
01-31-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
cj told me it should because it recycles the exaust gasses, is the collecter before or after the cat?
(hope I used the right term...:o )
Not sure I know exactly what you mean...He told you it should what? Pass or be illegal?
And I knew who cj was;)
cj told me it should because it recycles the exaust gasses, is the collecter before or after the cat?
(hope I used the right term...:o )
Not sure I know exactly what you mean...He told you it should what? Pass or be illegal?
And I knew who cj was;)
TerminalVelocity
02-01-2003, 03:22 AM
pass smog
Self
02-02-2003, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
pass smog
In California don't performance parts supposed to have a CARB EO number to actually be totally legal? If that IS the case, I believe that the Greddy kit is the only one legal, as it's the only one with a CARB #.
pass smog
In California don't performance parts supposed to have a CARB EO number to actually be totally legal? If that IS the case, I believe that the Greddy kit is the only one legal, as it's the only one with a CARB #.
sparq
02-02-2003, 07:30 AM
Have fun getting pulled over without it being certified...
In order to swap, the motor has to be same year or newer then the car - and turbo kit like Self said has to be legal.
In order to swap, the motor has to be same year or newer then the car - and turbo kit like Self said has to be legal.
TerminalVelocity
02-02-2003, 11:09 PM
so what engine could I use?
esp
02-03-2003, 08:46 AM
what year delsol? the motor has to be that same year or newer. that is all.
Self
02-04-2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by sparq
Have fun getting pulled over without it being certified...
In order to swap, the motor has to be same year or newer then the car - and turbo kit like Self said has to be legal.
Yea, see there. That's what I thought about the swaps, think I mentioned it up above. So yea, what year delSol is it?
Have fun getting pulled over without it being certified...
In order to swap, the motor has to be same year or newer then the car - and turbo kit like Self said has to be legal.
Yea, see there. That's what I thought about the swaps, think I mentioned it up above. So yea, what year delSol is it?
hybridsol
02-04-2003, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by sparq
Have fun getting pulled over without it being certified...
In order to swap, the motor has to be same year or newer then the car - and turbo kit like Self said has to be legal.
I don't know CA. regulations, but do you actually think there going to pop his hood and be able to decifer all that????? I don't know about you but cops around me don't even know what a b-series motor is....... I doubt they would even be able to tell if you got the car inspected, half of the mechanics I meet know jack about honda's. What do they have "special honda police"?
PS- TV don't you know a mechanic that you could get it inspected through?
Have fun getting pulled over without it being certified...
In order to swap, the motor has to be same year or newer then the car - and turbo kit like Self said has to be legal.
I don't know CA. regulations, but do you actually think there going to pop his hood and be able to decifer all that????? I don't know about you but cops around me don't even know what a b-series motor is....... I doubt they would even be able to tell if you got the car inspected, half of the mechanics I meet know jack about honda's. What do they have "special honda police"?
PS- TV don't you know a mechanic that you could get it inspected through?
Self
02-04-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by hybridsol
I don't know CA. regulations, but do you actually think there going to pop his hood and be able to decifer all that????? I don't know about you but cops around me don't even know what a b-series motor is....... I doubt they would even be able to tell if you got the car inspected, half of the mechanics I meet know jack about honda's. What do they have "special honda police"?
PS- TV don't you know a mechanic that you could get it inspected through?
That's probably true, I'm just letting you know what the laws are.
I don't know CA. regulations, but do you actually think there going to pop his hood and be able to decifer all that????? I don't know about you but cops around me don't even know what a b-series motor is....... I doubt they would even be able to tell if you got the car inspected, half of the mechanics I meet know jack about honda's. What do they have "special honda police"?
PS- TV don't you know a mechanic that you could get it inspected through?
That's probably true, I'm just letting you know what the laws are.
inferno
02-04-2003, 10:42 PM
Smog legality is as simple as knowing someone at a smog place, or going to a little dinky smog place. The visual inspection is a joke in So Cal as most people who live here will agree. I had a sohc vtec motor in my CRX with a custom turbo kit and didn't have any problem with inspection or anything(just had to turn down the boost so that my timing specs were close to stock). I know a lot of people who have done dohc swaps with no problems at all. I also have a j-spec motor in my 84 Supra and have no problems.
Self
02-05-2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by inferno
Smog legality is as simple as knowing someone at a smog place, or going to a little dinky smog place. The visual inspection is a joke in So Cal as most people who live here will agree. I had a sohc vtec motor in my CRX with a custom turbo kit and didn't have any problem with inspection or anything(just had to turn down the boost so that my timing specs were close to stock). I know a lot of people who have done dohc swaps with no problems at all. I also have a j-spec motor in my 84 Supra and have no problems.
But what happens when you get pulled over by the police and they ask for mod EO numbers?
Smog legality is as simple as knowing someone at a smog place, or going to a little dinky smog place. The visual inspection is a joke in So Cal as most people who live here will agree. I had a sohc vtec motor in my CRX with a custom turbo kit and didn't have any problem with inspection or anything(just had to turn down the boost so that my timing specs were close to stock). I know a lot of people who have done dohc swaps with no problems at all. I also have a j-spec motor in my 84 Supra and have no problems.
But what happens when you get pulled over by the police and they ask for mod EO numbers?
-The Stig-
02-05-2003, 10:27 PM
a Cop cant legally open your hood with out a Sgt. present.
As long as you've got all the proper smog crap that the car came with, and its functional to a degree... you should be fine.
As long as you've got all the proper smog crap that the car came with, and its functional to a degree... you should be fine.
inferno
02-06-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Self
But what happens when you get pulled over by the police and they ask for mod EO numbers?
Like RedNeck said, they can't legally open your hood without having a supervisor present and they have to have a good reason and state the exact thing they are looking for. Just like when a cop asks you if he can search your vehicle....you can say no and then he has to call in a supervisor to get approval and state exactly what he is looking for.
But what happens when you get pulled over by the police and they ask for mod EO numbers?
Like RedNeck said, they can't legally open your hood without having a supervisor present and they have to have a good reason and state the exact thing they are looking for. Just like when a cop asks you if he can search your vehicle....you can say no and then he has to call in a supervisor to get approval and state exactly what he is looking for.
Self
02-06-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by inferno
Like RedNeck said, they can't legally open your hood without having a supervisor present and they have to have a good reason and state the exact thing they are looking for. Just like when a cop asks you if he can search your vehicle....you can say no and then he has to call in a supervisor to get approval and state exactly what he is looking for.
Ahh, I see. Not like that hear though. All the police have to have is suspicion of illegal goods/contraband/conduct and they can conduct a full search of the car. Had it happen to me before. Nothing big since there wasn't anything illegal, but still a hassle and waste of time.
Like RedNeck said, they can't legally open your hood without having a supervisor present and they have to have a good reason and state the exact thing they are looking for. Just like when a cop asks you if he can search your vehicle....you can say no and then he has to call in a supervisor to get approval and state exactly what he is looking for.
Ahh, I see. Not like that hear though. All the police have to have is suspicion of illegal goods/contraband/conduct and they can conduct a full search of the car. Had it happen to me before. Nothing big since there wasn't anything illegal, but still a hassle and waste of time.
inferno
02-06-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Self
Ahh, I see. Not like that hear though. All the police have to have is suspicion of illegal goods/contraband/conduct and they can conduct a full search of the car. Had it happen to me before. Nothing big since there wasn't anything illegal, but still a hassle and waste of time.
Check your local law books...you might have been searched illegally and not even realize it. Some local laws can be put in place to "modify" the illegal search and seizure part in the Bill of Rights, but they can only go so far. And I hate to bring this up, but you and I are automatically "suspicious" in a lot of cops eyes if you know what I mean.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Ahh, I see. Not like that hear though. All the police have to have is suspicion of illegal goods/contraband/conduct and they can conduct a full search of the car. Had it happen to me before. Nothing big since there wasn't anything illegal, but still a hassle and waste of time.
Check your local law books...you might have been searched illegally and not even realize it. Some local laws can be put in place to "modify" the illegal search and seizure part in the Bill of Rights, but they can only go so far. And I hate to bring this up, but you and I are automatically "suspicious" in a lot of cops eyes if you know what I mean.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Self
02-07-2003, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by inferno
Check your local law books...you might have been searched illegally and not even realize it. Some local laws can be put in place to "modify" the illegal search and seizure part in the Bill of Rights, but they can only go so far. And I hate to bring this up, but you and I are automatically "suspicious" in a lot of cops eyes if you know what I mean.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Yeap, I know what you mean. But I'm pretty sure that here in VA that is the law. Search with suspicion. Like I said, it's never a danger to me really, but it can be a hassle, I know.
Check your local law books...you might have been searched illegally and not even realize it. Some local laws can be put in place to "modify" the illegal search and seizure part in the Bill of Rights, but they can only go so far. And I hate to bring this up, but you and I are automatically "suspicious" in a lot of cops eyes if you know what I mean.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Yeap, I know what you mean. But I'm pretty sure that here in VA that is the law. Search with suspicion. Like I said, it's never a danger to me really, but it can be a hassle, I know.
89B18C1CRX
02-07-2003, 11:19 AM
Why not just swap in a B16 motor? The 1996? I believe came with the B16 being an sir from canada. I know because a buddy of mine that CJ hates very badly had one until he totalled it. Therefore you can say the motor came stock in the car? It would make more sense. And the B16 would be better to turbo then a B18 would be. Thats what I would do if I were you. Good Luck with what ever you do
TerminalVelocity
02-07-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by 89B18C1CRX
Why not just swap in a B16 motor? The 1996? I believe came with the B16 being an sir from canada. I know because a buddy of mine that CJ hates very badly had one until he totalled it. Therefore you can say the motor came stock in the car? It would make more sense. And the B16 would be better to turbo then a B18 would be. Thats what I would do if I were you. Good Luck with what ever you do
I rember CJ tellin me alot of the b16's, can yall tell me more?
Oh, and theres the Oxnard factor to the police, they ARE the law, at least they think they are, and they will illegally arrest you making shit up. The law there is a joke....cops are as corrupt as it comes, not all of them are, but pleanty are...I speek from knowing those who worked among them, so dont be talkin shit if you are one...:mad:
Why not just swap in a B16 motor? The 1996? I believe came with the B16 being an sir from canada. I know because a buddy of mine that CJ hates very badly had one until he totalled it. Therefore you can say the motor came stock in the car? It would make more sense. And the B16 would be better to turbo then a B18 would be. Thats what I would do if I were you. Good Luck with what ever you do
I rember CJ tellin me alot of the b16's, can yall tell me more?
Oh, and theres the Oxnard factor to the police, they ARE the law, at least they think they are, and they will illegally arrest you making shit up. The law there is a joke....cops are as corrupt as it comes, not all of them are, but pleanty are...I speek from knowing those who worked among them, so dont be talkin shit if you are one...:mad:
89B18C1CRX
02-07-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
I rember CJ tellin me alot of the b16's, can yall tell me more?
Oh, and theres the Oxnard factor to the police, they ARE the law, at least they think they are, and they will illegally arrest you making shit up. The law there is a joke....cops are as corrupt as it comes, not all of them are, but pleanty are...I speek from knowing those who worked among them, so dont be talkin shit if you are one...:mad:
Well there is a lot about the b16. Between me and cj we can prolly tell you anything you need to know about them. Come to Carlisle and we can build the damn thing for you hahaha. But I mean there are more parts prolly available for the B16, and it is an easier motor to be turbo charged. Any specific questions can come to me or Cj just let us know how we can help.
I rember CJ tellin me alot of the b16's, can yall tell me more?
Oh, and theres the Oxnard factor to the police, they ARE the law, at least they think they are, and they will illegally arrest you making shit up. The law there is a joke....cops are as corrupt as it comes, not all of them are, but pleanty are...I speek from knowing those who worked among them, so dont be talkin shit if you are one...:mad:
Well there is a lot about the b16. Between me and cj we can prolly tell you anything you need to know about them. Come to Carlisle and we can build the damn thing for you hahaha. But I mean there are more parts prolly available for the B16, and it is an easier motor to be turbo charged. Any specific questions can come to me or Cj just let us know how we can help.
inferno
02-07-2003, 11:09 PM
I'm also well versed in honda motors and turbocharging although I don't contribute to the tech forums as often as I used to. Feel free to leave me a message in private if you want some suggestions or opinions. Also, remember, I live in So Cal too so I am familiar with the laws and loopholes around them.
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